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🤡 House of Cards: Trump’s Accumulating Worries
« Reply #1275 on: May 07, 2018, 12:11:27 AM »
House of Cards: Trump’s Accumulating Worries

by Gary Leupp / May 6th, 2018


The White House is more and more looking like a house of cards. After 16 months the staff is demoralized, in disarray and divided, some prone to leak embarrassing news to the press. (Trump in January banned personal cell phones in the West Wing, indicating that he mistrusts everyone around him.) While Trump is reported to dislike firing people (in real life as opposed to his reality show The Apprentice), over 12 top officials have left so far, among them the secretary of state, who called him a moron. The high rate of staff turnover suggests that Trump lacks judgment; he picks people on the grounds and physical appearance, personal rapport, and expectations of loyalty winding up with a contentious cabinet that can’t act as a team. Trump in his narcissism demands to be the decision-maker. Having multiple views around him, he says, is good. Not that he necessarily listens to advice.

His son-in-law and top advisor Jared Kushner is in apparent legal troubles concerning his business dealings, and like Don Jr. is under investigation by the Mueller probe for Russia contacts during the campaign. His lawyer Michael Cohen has been indicted, and may well turn against the president if charged with crimes carrying lengthy prison terms. He has small children.

Scandals involving sexual harassment and assault have plagued this White House, while Trump has generally supported those on his staff or in his circle accused of such offenses. He has himself been accused of, and indeed in the “Access Hollywood” tape virtually boasted of, sexual assault. His base may have brushed off criticisms of his private life up to this point, but now he’s had to confess to his hush payments to Stormy Daniels — after denying (April 4) that he had any knowledge of them. And while he implausibly claims he didn’t know about the payments until after April 24, The Hill reports that he did know at this time that he had been paying Daniels (through Cohen) and had known it for months. So he lied on Air Force One. Not a big surprise to the people, but a humiliating experience for Trump.

His tweeting habit causes him to rave and rant spontaneously with minimal thought and analysis, causing most of us to cringe. His lawyers and advisors cringe. Chief of Staff Gen. John Kelly (who has reportedly called him an “idiot”) states that he doesn’t bother to read the tweets. Sen. Bob Corker (R-TN) has declared that (former) Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, Secretary of Defense James Mattis, and Kelly are “those people that help separate our country from chaos.” Babysitters. trying to control a tantrum-prone child.

Trump’s former physician Harold Bornstein, dismayed by the Trump team’s raid on his office to steal his medical records shortly after the inauguration, now announces that his hyperbolic short letter concerning Trump’s health released by the Trump campaign in November 2015, was dictated by Trump himself. “His physical strength and stamina are extraordinary,” he wrote. “If elected, Mr. Trump, I can state unequivocally, will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.” It was just another instance of Trump’s manipulative self-promotion.

Trump surely assumes that having seized Cohen’s documents the FBI has acquired intimate knowledge of his true wealth and its sources. And The Donald has to worry about developments in the Daniels’ case, especially if the identity of the man who allegedly threatened her can be found and traced to Cohen or Trump himself. He has to worry about the Russia probe and charges of obstruction if not collusion. He has to worry about the fact the special investigations tend to broaden out; the Whitewater investigation under Kenneth Starr in the 1990s wound up with Bill Clinton’s impeachment for the unrelated issue of office sex.

He has to worry about associates and even family members flipping on him. I imagine he has to worry about Melania’s reactions to all this stuff. He must wonder what’s on that disk that Daniels’ lawyer threatens to reveal, and whether the (alleged) Moscow hotel episode was captured on film. A marital separation would be embarrassing.

Meanwhile he must be frustrated by the fact that the men he calls “my generals” including an extraordinary number of cabinet members, continue to block his intentions. On April 4 he announced that the U.S. would be withdrawing its 2000 (?) troops from Syria. Put the Pentagon soon convinced him that the troops need to stay for the time being, as they lobby Congress for $300 million in arms for the Syrian opposition and continue to imagine that they can organize 65,000 Syrian militants for use (ostensibly) to destroy what’s left of ISIL  He perhaps knows that his generals, the more they get to know him, hold his intelligence in contempt. He may be frustrated at how they keep challenging his grasp of foreign policy issues.

He has to worry too about the fact that even if he retains a 40% support base, it might not necessarily help him if he moves against Mueller. A lot of Republicans have warned Trump against such action. If he does he could well get impeached or removed by Art. 25 of the Constitution.  So he has to choose. Let the investigation run its course, confidant that it will find no “Russian collusion” or obstruction of justice. Or try to shut it down and produce a constitutional crisis and likely impeachment. Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown.

Gary Leupp is a Professor of History at Tufts University, and author of numerous works on Japanese history. He can be reached at: gleupp@granite.tufts.edu. Read other articles by Gary.
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🤡 Twilight Zone America: Woody Allen Meets Rod Serling
« Reply #1276 on: May 10, 2018, 02:02:08 AM »
https://www.globalresearch.ca/twilight-zone-america-woody-allen-meets-rod-serling/5639437

Twilight Zone America: Woody Allen Meets Rod Serling
By Philip A Farruggio
Global Research, May 07, 2018
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Baby boomers should recall the cutting edge television series ( 1959-64) The Twilight Zone. Creator Rod Serling, who wrote many episodes himself, was a genius! The shows had this surreal and fantasy aspect to them, revealing all the flaws and nobilities human beings can possess. In one of the show’s  greatest episodes: The Monsters are due on Maple Street (March, 1960), written by Rod Serling, we can see how fear of the unknown can cause such havoc. A street in a typical American town experiences a giant roar and flashes of light that cannot be explained. Then the power goes out completely. The residents of the street begin to panic and fear that aliens are invading. This causes arguments and physical violence between usually friendly and caring neighbors. The parallels to the aftermath of 9/11 and the run-up to the (illegal and immoral) invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq are astounding.

Woody Allen, another literary and cinematic genius, made so many great films depicting the foolishness and ego driven acts by just ‘regular people’. Allen delved into the world of fantasy to make these points so well. His landmark movie using fantasy to make his critique of American society was his 1985 film The Purple Rose of Cairo. A lonely housewife during the Great Depression is seen by a (supposedly) fictional character in a film, causing him to question his own existence. He suddenly ‘leaves the film screen’ and becomes lifelike due to his attraction to her. All hell breaks loose as fantasy and reality become entangled to the Nth degree! To this writer, the ‘hidden’ message of Allen’s storyline is that perhaps this 3rd dimension we operate in is really ‘Just a dream’. Thus, anything goes, as we all create our dream.
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Here is the kicker to all of this: Can what is happening here in 21st Century Amerika be real? I mean, come on, Donald Trump is actually president of the United States! It’s somewhat similar to how the truly sophisticated German citizens must have felt in 1933 when Hitler ascended to Chancellor, and his party of far right wing thugs and scoundrels ‘controlled the streets’. Recalling Hitler and his near crazy antics in the 1920s, with the barbarity of many of his SA and later on SS minions, must have given pause to the millions of decent and rational Germans.

They must have said to themselves and their friends “How could this character be leader of our nation now?” Hitler was a cartoon character right out of a Rod Serling or Woody Allen script… and so is Trump!

Of course it is much deeper a problem than just Donald Trump, as it was with Hitler, and Stalin and all the other dictators and despots throughout history. No, it is now and always has been about us, we the people of all those countries. When good people see a trend that is developing and choose to ignore it… bad things usually happen. Empires can only grow and exploit when their citizens refuse or ignore the warning signs. The ‘Big Lie’ can only work when too many of us continue to lie to ourselves. The Pogo cartoon character was correct: We have met the enemy and he be US!

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Philip A Farruggio is a son and grandson of Brooklyn, NYC longshoremen. He has been a free lance columnist since 2001, with over 300 of his work posted on sites like Consortium News, Information Clearing House, Global Research, Nation of Change, World News Trust, Op Ed News, Dissident Voice, Counterpunch, Activist Post, Sleuth Journal, Truthout and many others. His blog can be read in full on World News Trust, whereupon he writes a great deal on the need to cut military spending drastically and send the savings back to save our cities. Philip has a internet interview show, ‘It’s the Empire… Stupid’ with producer Chuck Gregory, and can be reached at paf1222@bellsouth.net.
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Re: Trumpty-Dumpty POTUS Thread
« Reply #1277 on: May 10, 2018, 04:09:57 AM »
Stellar Choice Amigo, love'd it...  :icon_sunny:

Wait'll fkn Oprah carries the baton in the Merry old land of Oz, hah!
I know exactly what you mean. Let me tell you why you’re here. You’re here because you know something. What you know you can’t explain, but you feel it. You’ve felt it your entire life, that there’s something wrong with the world.
You don’t know what it is but its there, like a splinter in your mind

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🤡 'These aren't people. These are animals.'
« Reply #1278 on: May 17, 2018, 01:48:36 PM »
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/05/16/trump-immigrants-animals-mexico-democrats-sanctuary-cities/617252002/

Trump ramps up rhetoric on undocumented immigrants: 'These aren't people. These are animals.'
Gregory Korte and Alan Gomez, USA TODAY Published 6:13 p.m. ET May 16, 2018 | Updated 10:03 a.m. ET May 17, 2018

President Donald Trump is hammering California for its sanctuary policies in his latest push to resist the "resistance" to his presidency. (May 15) AP
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WASHINGTON — President Trump used extraordinarily harsh rhetoric to renew his call for stronger immigration laws Wednesday, calling undocumented immigrants "animals" and venting frustration at Mexican officials who he said "do nothing" to help the United States.

“We have people coming into the country or trying to come in, we're stopping a lot of them, but we're taking people out of the country. You wouldn't believe how bad these people are," Trump said.

"These aren't people. These are animals."

Trump's comments came in a freewheeling, hour-long White House meeting with local California leaders opposed to so-called "sanctuary city" policies. "California's law provides safe harbor to some of the most vicious and violent offenders on Earth, like MS-13 gang members putting innocent men, women, and children at the mercy of these sadistic criminals," he said.

His comment about "animals" came after Fresno County Sheriff Margaret Mims complained that state law forbids her from telling U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement about undocumented immigrants in her jail — even if she suspects they're part of a gang.
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"There could be an MS-13 member I know about. If they don’t reach a certain threshold, I cannot tell ICE about it," she said.

Trump's remarks were reminiscent of his first press conference as a presidential candidate in 2015, when he said the United States had become a "dumping ground" for people other countries didn't want.

"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best," he said then. "They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

Trump has been particularly vocal in opposing so-called "sanctuary city" policies, in which some jurisdictions have refused to fully cooperate with federal immigration authorities. On Wednesday, he highlighted California cities who do cooperate, inviting mayors and sheriffs opposed to the state's predominant policy.

"Each of you has bravely resisted California's deadly and unconstitutional sanctuary state law," Trump told them.

In other comments, Trump:

► Called for Attorney General Jeff Sessions to investigate Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf for warning undocumented immigrants of an upcoming sweep by immigration agents. "You talk about obstruction of justice, I would recommend that you look at obstruction of justice for the mayor, Jeff," the president said.

► Expressed frustration at his southern neighbor for not doing more to stop the flow of refugees and immigrants into the United States. "Mexico does nothing for us, they do nothing for us. Mexico talks, but they do nothing for us, especially at the border," he said. "Certainly don’t help us much on trade."

► Blamed Democrats for a policy of separating children from their parents when undocumented families enter the United States.

"I know what you're going through with families is very tough," he told Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen. "But those are the bad laws the Democrats gave us. We have to break up families. The Democrats gave us that law. It's a horrible thing we have to break up families."

Alan Gomez reported from Miami. David Jackson contributed.

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Re: Trumpty-Dumpty POTUS Thread
« Reply #1279 on: May 17, 2018, 06:58:44 PM »
Tarpley got it 100% correct: don’t talk with Kim. So what happened? Several weeks ago anticipating the expiration of the Iran deal, Kim was seen holding hands and nearly kissing with Moon. This emboldened the deal expert to let the agreement expire and move the embassy since he was anticipating a Nobel peace prize for Korea. Now Kim says everything is off and Trump is the biggest foreign policy blunderer since king Priam.
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Re: Trumpty-Dumpty POTUS Thread
« Reply #1280 on: May 23, 2018, 08:00:06 PM »
When the head of the FBI thinks it's necessary to put an informer into an election campaign team because it is "essential to protecting the country", something is rotten in the State.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-23/comey-responds-trump-attack-how-will-republicans-explain-their-grandchildren
Comey Responds To Trump Attack: "Our Country Is Led By Those Who Will Lie About Anything"
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05/23/2018

Former FBI Director James Comey won't allow President Trump's gloating from this morning to go unanswered.

In a tweet that appears to be a direct response to Trump, Comey attempted to justify the FBI's use of a spy - or what Comey describes as a "Confidential Human Source" - to keep tabs on the Trump campaign. According to Comey, human sources are "tightly regulated and essential to protecting the country".

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Of course, Comey argues that the FBI was totally justified in using a human asset to spy on the Trump campaign, as it would any other target (though he completely ignores the notion that, if the spy didn't find evidence of collusion, then what is Mueller investigating?). In an attempt to shame Trump's backers, Comey declared that "attacks on the FBI and lying about work will do lasting damage to our country."

"How will Republicans explain this to their grandchildren?" he asked.

    Facts matter. The FBI’s use of Confidential Human Sources (the actual term) is tightly regulated and essential to protecting the country. Attacks on the FBI and lying about its work will do lasting damage to our country. How will Republicans explain this to their grandchildren?
    — James Comey (@Comey) May 23, 2018

Comey added that it was a "dangerous time when our country is led by those who will lie about anything, backed by those who will believe anything, based on information from media sources that will say anything."

He then urged Americans to "break out of that bubble and seek truth."

    Dangerous time when our country is led by those who will lie about anything, backed by those who will believe anything, based on information from media sources that will say anything. Americans must break out of that bubble and seek truth.
    — James Comey (@Comey) May 23, 2018

Emails recently released by Sen. Ron Johnson provided new insight into how Comey briefed the president (and how certain information fell into the hands of CNN), and seemed to suggest at least some coordination between media organizations publishing anti-Trump exclusives and Comey, who recently published a book where he questioned Trump's ethical fitness for his office.
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Re: Trumpty-Dumpty POTUS Thread
« Reply #1281 on: May 24, 2018, 03:43:13 AM »
When the head of the FBI thinks it's necessary to put an informer into an election campaign team because it is "essential to protecting the country", something is rotten in the State.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-23/comey-responds-trump-attack-how-will-republicans-explain-their-grandchildren
Comey Responds To Trump Attack: "Our Country Is Led By Those Who Will Lie About Anything"

    Facts matter. The FBI’s use of Confidential Human Sources (the actual term) is tightly regulated and essential to protecting the country. Attacks on the FBI and lying about its work will do lasting damage to our country. How will Republicans explain this to their grandchildren?
    — James Comey (@Comey) May 23, 2018

A big difference between confidential sources and planted informants. The uncritical who get their nooze from ZH, Faux News, et al only know what they are spoon fed. Meanwhile, back in meatspace (as opposed to Trumpworld), Mueller has run up 19 indictments and five convictions so far, and he's still loosening up.

Apparently the Orange Lout said in an interview that his relentless attacks on the press was a strategy to discredit reporters and news media orgs to shield himself from negative coverage. Stupid fucker.

Trump admitted he attacks press to shield himself from negative coverage, Lesley Stahl says
https://www.denverpost.com/2018/05/23/trump-news-media-comments/

Never forget that Trump's views come out of a playbook written in German.

Donald Trump using Adolf Hitler's 'Mein Kampf' playbook, says world expert on Nazi leader
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/adolf-hitler-donald-trump-mein-kampf-bluffed-way-to-power-nazi-leader-germany-fuhrer-us-president-a7568506.html
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Re: Trumpty-Dumpty POTUS Thread
« Reply #1282 on: May 24, 2018, 06:56:25 AM »
The facts from ZH are that Comey tweeted something outrageous, (which helps Trump in convicting Comey). Are you suggesting that Comey didn't tweet those words?  The tweet is at https://twitter.com/Comey/status/999286616744124416.
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Re: Trumpty-Dumpty POTUS Thread
« Reply #1283 on: May 24, 2018, 07:17:35 AM »
The facts from ZH are that Comey tweeted something outrageous, (which helps Trump in convicting Comey). Are you suggesting that Comey didn't tweet those words?  The tweet is at https://twitter.com/Comey/status/999286616744124416.

I am not suggesting anything, especially not Comey's tweet.
The characterizarions and the follow on allegations are extremely suspect, since ZH is not to be trusted.
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« Reply #1284 on: May 24, 2018, 03:03:42 PM »
But you ARE suggesting something, "ZH is not to be trusted".  I try to screen out their general pro-Trump, anti-Clinton articles, but this is not one of those, unless you can point me to something.
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« Reply #1285 on: May 24, 2018, 04:16:19 PM »
But you ARE suggesting something, "ZH is not to be trusted".  I try to screen out their general pro-Trump, anti-Clinton articles, but this is not one of those, unless you can point me to something.

Specifically, the interpretation of the person doing the reporting. He was an academic reporting irregular behavior to the FBI according to reports. In Trumpworld, he was "embedded" in the "Trump campaign"by "Obama" as part of "Spygate," the new brand the infomercial president is peddling.

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Re: Trumpty-Dumpty POTUS Thread
« Reply #1286 on: May 24, 2018, 04:43:12 PM »
Oh, you mean the unnamed person that didn't even get mentioned in the ZH article.  How untrustworthy of ZH.
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The Weasel of Oz
« Reply #1287 on: May 28, 2018, 04:04:35 PM »
The Weasel of Oz

The Weasel of Oz

Charles M. Blow

By Charles M. Blow

Opinion Columnist

President Trump during a graduation and commissioning ceremony at the United States Naval Academy in Annapolis, Md., on Friday.CreditEvan Vucci/Associated Press

Assuming that you have maintained the ability to be astonished by Donald Trump’s antics and insolence, The Washington Post reported last week that in 2017, before Trump was to deliver a speech to Congress, he “huddled with senior adviser Jared Kushner and [Stephen] Miller in the Oval Office to talk immigration.” As The Post reported:

“Trump reminded them the crowds loved his rhetoric on immigrants along the campaign trail. Acting as if he were at a rally, he recited a few made-up Hispanic names and described potential crimes they could have committed, such as rape or murder. Then, he said, the crowds would roar when the criminals were thrown out of the country — as they did when he highlighted crimes by illegal immigrants at his rallies, according to a person present for the exchange and another briefed on it later. Miller and Kushner laughed.”

That Trump is a racist and white supremacist is settled fact at this point.

After Charlottesville, and the “shithole countries” comment and the use of MS-13 — “These aren’t people. These are animals” — as a coded cudgel against all immigrants, if you still don’t believe that Trump is a racist — and most people do — then you’re not paying attention, are willfully ignorant, or are probably a closet racist yourself.

The racism has become almost routine. Now it is the continued revelations of the degree to which Trump takes the presidency as a giant game, in which he is all-powerful, in which supplicants must come pleading, in which he has an unmatched ability to retain power by manipulating and deceiving the populace.

Its like he’s playing the role of the Wizard of Oz, only this man is a weasel.

This isn’t even the first time that we’ve gotten a peek behind the curtain and have seen Trump’s hubris about his ability to tap into people’s anxieties — and hatreds — and his ability to bend reality to suit his designs.


After Charlottesville, and the “shithole countries” comment and the use of MS-13 — “These aren’t people. These are animals” — as a coded cudgel against all immigrants, if you still don’t believe that Trump is a racist — and most people do — then you’re not paying attention, are willfully ignorant, or are probably a closet racist yourself.


The racism has become almost routine. Now it is the continued revelations of the degree to which Trump takes the presidency as a giant game, in which he is all-powerful, in which supplicants must come pleading, in which he has an unmatched ability to retain power by manipulating and deceiving the populace.

Its like he’s playing the role of the Wizard of Oz, only this man is a weasel.

This isn’t even the first time that we’ve gotten a peek behind the curtain and have seen Trump’s hubris about his ability to tap into people’s anxieties — and hatreds — and his ability to bend reality to suit his designs.

Demonization of those who are different — in race, religion, ethnicity, sexual orientation or even conviction — is a common thread in Trump’s power play. He directs it at the media in a different way.

Last week, “60 Minutes” correspondent Lesley Stahl recalled an exchange she had with Trump in 2016 in which she pressed him on why he repeatedly insults journalists. His response, according to Stahl, was: “You know why I do it? I do it to discredit you all and demean you all so when you write negative stories about me, no one will believe you.”

For Trump, it’s all about manipulation, and he will lie, bully and demean to that end, even if his deceit is discovered.

On Saturday, Trump falsely claimed on Twitter:

“The Failing @nytimes quotes ‘a senior White House official,’ who doesn’t exist, as saying ‘even if the meeting were reinstated, holding it on June 12 would be impossible, given the lack of time and the amount of planning needed.’ WRONG AGAIN! Use real people, not phony sources.”

Well, it turns out that the official not only exists, but audio surfaced of him giving the briefing in the White House itself. And while he never uses the word “impossible,” he describes a timeline that sounds impossible.

Trump has not apologized for that lie or corrected it, and the tweet is still available on Twitter.

This is the strategy: Never apologize. Just move on, create a new moment — one that rivals or even outshines the last — and change the subject. This way, you keep your detractors playing on your court and by your rules and you never play on theirs.

In the film, the Wizard of Oz finally confesses: “I’m a humbug!” Trump never will.

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Re: Trumpty-Dumpty POTUS Thread
« Reply #1288 on: May 29, 2018, 06:01:27 AM »
Yep, I think that nails it, as far as Trump and his strategy, fwiw. Not that difficult to parse. Just say something calculated to stir up the "Trump base", which I'd describe as the most ignorant masses of people, the ones more than willing to believe any lie that fits their world view.

Lie, incite, move on. Never explain, because the lies don't hold water.

But if you move on fast enough and make some new incitement, nobody much notices except journalists and a few people who already know Trump is a liar anyway. Not enough to matter.

Is Trump a racist. Well, duh. This is hardly news, is it?

The thing is that even people who aren't terribly racist aren't necessarily thrilled about wide open borders and open arms for hundreds of thousands of Guatemalans and Salvadorans, fleeing what amounts to rampant overpopulation.

Maybe in a few years that might be politically popular, if the American voters of hispanic origin get their consciousness raised, but maybe not too. Right now being immigrant friendly doesn't sell to voters. Not even those at what passes for the center these days.

The liberals are way too quick to take up the side of the huddled masses. I read and listen on the radio to news stories calculated to shock the audience about how badly we're treating people, separating parents and children, sending kids to "refugee centers", etc. I don't think those stories raise much sympathy these days. Too many underdogs, already for people to take the side of some other underdog, who might want some of the scraps off their table.

Because I'd like to see the anti-Trump candidates be successful, it bothers me to see them continuing to lead with their glass jaw. Most voters can't or don't read, or even think, in ideas longer than a tweet.

I don't like journalists drawing this racism line. What this article says, in its totality, is that if you aren't pro-immigrant you're on the side of the liars and the racists. Not in so many words, but in its broader take-away.

I'm not sure articles like this resonate with that many people.
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Re: Trumpty-Dumpty POTUS Thread
« Reply #1289 on: May 29, 2018, 06:33:15 AM »
This is another example of either share, out of common humanity, versus your duty to yourself and your family.  I watched a YT the other day about Bernays' impact on US/UK politics, after his successes in retailing. The Reagan/Thatcher movements were the outcome. By promoting feedback from focus groups to change policies and then sell those changes, they managed to persuade everyone that selfishness was right.
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