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Trump, Pence address March for Life, vow to support opponents of abortion rights
The president promises to veto legislation that "weakens the protection of human life" at Friday's rally.
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By Linda Givetash

President Donald Trump addressed anti-abortion protesters in Washington, and vowed to veto legislation that "weakens the protection of human life."


Vice President Mike Pence and his wife Karen Pence attended the annual March for Life led by opponents of abortion rights in Washington on Friday. It took place a day ahead of the Women's March that has been marred by controversy.

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The president didn't attend in person but spoke to the crowd via video.

"This is a movement founded on love and grounded in the nobility and dignity of every human life," he said. "As president, I will always defend the first right in our Declaration of Independence, the right to life."

Both Democratic and Republican lawmakers have been highlighting the abortion issue leading up to the march.

Some Democrats in the House reiterated their support for ending the Hyde Act which bans Medicaid funding for abortion services.
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Vice President Mike Pence and his wife Karen acknowledge the audience at the 2019 March for Life dinner in Washington.Cliff Owen / AP

Meanwhile, Trump said he would support efforts that have so far failed in the Republican-led Senate to permanently prohibit taxpayer funding for abortion.

Trump also listed efforts the administration has taken over the past two years to deter abortions, including the blocking of foreign aid to organizations that promote abortions.

Pence credited the president for nominating conservative judges to the federal bench during his address.
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Pence was clear in his support for the marchers, calling their plight one of "compassion."

"We gather here because we believe as our founders did that we are, all of us, born and unborn, endowed by our creator, with certain unalienable rights and first among these rights is the right to life," Pence said.

The march first began in January 1974, a year after the Supreme Court released its verdict in Roe v. Wade.

The Women's March, in contrast, has previously been supported by abortion organizations including NARAL Pro-Choice America, but amid controversy over anti-Semitism allegations, NARAL and other groups are no longer supporting Saturday's event.
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Linda Givetash is a reporter based in London. She previously worked for The Canadian Press in Vancouver and Nation Media in Uganda.
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🤡 Trump Offers Deportation Protections in Exchange for Wall Funding
« Reply #1726 on: January 19, 2019, 03:25:46 PM »
Total load of bullshit designed to make it appear he is willing to "make a deal", while in reality offering up nothing concrete at all.  It does force the Demodopes to make some kind of counter offer though.  This Kabuki Theater Show should go at least another week.

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In a White House address, President Trump announced a plan that would provide temporary protection from deportation for some immigrants in exchange for $5.7 billion in funding for a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border.CreditCreditTom Brenner for The New York Times

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    Jan. 19, 2019

WASHINGTON — President Trump announced on Saturday that he would extend deportation protections for some undocumented immigrants in exchange for $5.7 billion in funding for a wall along the border with Mexico.

In casting the proposal as a compromise, Mr. Trump sought to shift pressure to Democrats to end the government shutdown.

The president, delivering a 13-minute address from the White House, said he would extend the legal status of those facing deportation and support bipartisan legislation that would allow some immigrants who came to the United States illegally as children, known as Dreamers, to keep their work permits and be protected from deportation for three more years if they are revoked.

“That is our plan,” Mr. Trump said. “Straightforward, fair, reasonable and common sense with lots of compromise.” The proposal, Mr. Trump said, was intended to “break the logjam and provide Congress with a path forward.”

But he reiterated his demand for $5.7 billion in funding for a border barrier, and Speaker Nancy Pelosi said ahead of his remarks that she considered his proposal a “nonstarter,” in part because it offered no permanent pathway to citizenship for Dreamers.
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This time, Mr. Trump made the speech standing behind a lectern, under an oil portrait of George Washington, a setting aides said he preferred to the seated, direct-to-camera Oval Office address he delivered earlier this month when he highlighted what he described as a growing “security crisis” at the border.

He tried to weave in the concessions to Democrats with a hard-line appeal to his base, opening his remarks with the same kinds of warnings of exploited children and rape that he said confront undocumented immigrants at the border.

But over all, the remarks stood in contrast to that prime-time address, in which the president sought to reframe the debate by outlining examples of grisly violence at the border. That address, which Mr. Trump was reluctant to make, failed to turn public opinion to his side. This time, Mr. Trump struck a more inclusive tone, calling his proposal a “common-sense compromise both parties should embrace” and noting that his was a “compassionate response.”
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He even appeared to play down the wall at the center of the standoff with Democrats. “This is not a 2,000-mile concrete structure from sea to sea,” he said. “These are steel barriers in high-priority locations. Much of the border is already protected by natural barriers such as mountains and water.”

On Saturday, Mr. Trump also hosted a naturalization ceremony at the White House, a move intended to underscore the idea that he supports legal immigration.
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Speaking in the White House Diplomatic Room on Saturday, President Trump proposes temporary protections for some undocumented immigrants in return for border wall funding to end the partial government shutdown. (Jim Lo Scalzo / EPA-EFE/REX)

In offering a compromise of sorts to end the partial government shutdown, President Trump invited the American public to join him Saturday in an exercise of blame-shifting. People should resist the impulse to hold anyone but Donald Trump responsible for the historically long and needless shutdown of much of the federal government, although his Republican enablers in Congress can bask in the shame as well.

Pressured by the growing disapproval of his leadership even among his core supporters, Trump proposed what he called a down payment on a broader immigration reform: a three-year freeze on deportations for the Dreamers, or immigrants brought to the United States illegally as children, and for some non-citizens with Temporary Protected Status. Such temporary relief, though, wouldn’t make the Dreamers much better off than they are now.

In exchange, Trump wants $5.7 billion for his cherished wall along the southern border. It’s worth noting that the president shifted his rhetoric significantly — no longer is it a wall from the Pacific Ocean to the Gulf of Mexico, he said, but “steel barriers in high-priority locations” identified by border agents.
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Although it could be a starting point for real negotiations, it is not, at the moment, a deal worth taking. First and foremost, Trump has shown himself to be a completely unreliable negotiator, continually shifting positions and moving the goal posts; Democrats should ask to hear more before jumping at any offer. Beyond that, the courts have already provided some temporary protection for the Dreamers; Trump’s promise of a three-year shield from deportation isn’t much of an improvement, if any. And besides, Democrats shouldn’t bargain on border issues until the government reopens. Otherwise, they’d just be encouraging Trump to take the government hostage again the next time he wants something Congress won’t give him.
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Even as he laid out his new, more limited vision of a wall, Trump continued to characterize it as an impossibly magical solution to a range of problems, some not even border-related. If his wall were built, Trump said, “the crime rate and drug problem in our country would be quickly and greatly reduced. Some say it could be cut in half.”

A physical barrier can be a useful part of the security equation — that’s why we have walls along roughly 700 miles of the Mexican border. But a wall can’t do what Trump claims; what it can do is send a clear, ugly message to the rest of the world about the bunker mentality of the president and his base.

The best that can be said about Trump’s offer is that it opens up a potential middle ground
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The best that can be said about Trump’s offer is that it opens up a potential middle ground where Democrats could agree to spend more on border security and Trump could, in turn, agree to provide a path to citizenship for young people whose only real home is here, in the United States. But we won’t get there as long as Trump refuses to reopen the government unless he gets $5.7 billion for his wall.

Trump seemed ready in December to accept a temporary spending bill with no money for his pet project. It was only after some xenophobic pundits and far-right members of Congress accused him of caving in that Trump reasserted his insistence on a wall. In fact, he raised the price tag from $5 billion to $5.7 billion.

The president clearly wants Saturday’s speech to recast his obstinate wall demand as a reasonable request in exchange for an overdue solution to the thorny problem posed by the Dreamers. But he’s responsible for the Dreamers’ dilemma too, having rashly terminated President Obama’s Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program in order to gain leverage over Democrats in negotiations over immigration policy.

This is a recurring theme of this transactional president’s tenure: To try to coerce Congress into supporting something that much of the country doesn’t want, he manufactures a problem in the hope that it will strengthen his bargaining position. We’ve seen it again and again — the administration’s concerted efforts to undermine Obamacare, his threats to the North American Free Trade Agreement, the tariff wars he launched with much of the industrialized world, the DACA fiasco and now the longest government shutdown in the nation’s history.

Trump has boxed himself into a corner with his wall, and congressional Democrats aren’t inclined to give him an easy way out. That’s why Trump went public Saturday with his proposed deal — to make it seem like he’s negotiating, rather than simply prolonging the shutdown in the hope that congressional Democrats will give in. But if we’re going to get out of the mess Trump made, he has to be willing to actually negotiate, not just offer to solve another problem he created in exchange for getting the wall he fetishizes.
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🤡 Shutdown: Trump 'amnesty' tweet angers right and fails to draw Democrats
« Reply #1728 on: January 20, 2019, 10:18:07 AM »
As predicted here on the Diner, this bullshit flew like a Lead Balloon.  ::)

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Shutdown: Trump 'amnesty' tweet angers right and fails to draw Democrats

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    Outside the Washington circus, shutdown havoc spreads

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Donald Trump makes remarks as he hosts a naturalization ceremony in the Oval Office on Saturday. Photograph: REX/Shutterstock

Donald Trump raised the possibility of one day granting amnesty to migrants living in the US illegally, after Democrats rejected his latest plan to fund a wall along the southern border and reopen the US government.
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In a remark that angered Republicans while not being taken seriously by Democrats, Trump suggested legal status could be given to millions of undocumented people as part of a future grand bargain on American immigration law.

The president floated the idea in a tweet on Sunday that stressed he was, for now, only offering to extend legal protections for some refugees and people who were brought to the US illegally as children.
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“Amnesty will be used only on a much bigger deal, whether on immigration or something else,” Trump said. He also said there would “no big push” to deport those already living in the US without permission.

The US is more than four weeks into its longest government shutdown, which was triggered by Trump’s refusal to sign a bipartisan congressional spending plan that did not give him the billions of dollars he wants for a wall along the border with Mexico.

Trump’s emphatic promise to “build the wall” won him the support of many conservative voters during the 2016 presidential campaign. He claimed he would force Mexico to pay for the wall directly, but has recently effectively conceded this will not happen.

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On Saturday, Trump said from the White House that he would agree to limited concessions for some undocumented immigrants if Democrats agreed to give him more than $5bn in public funds for the wall.

Trump’s offer would comprise a three-year extension in legal protection for roughly 700,000 “dreamers”, were brought to the US illegally as children, and approximately 300,000 refugees facing an end to temporary legal status.
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The proposal was dismissed by senior Democrats even before Trump began speaking. Democrats are demanding that Trump reopen the government by signing the existing congressional spending plan before any further negotiations on immigration.
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Nancy Pelosi, the Democratic speaker of the House of Representatives, described Trump’s plan as a “compilation of several previously rejected initiatives” that would not provide lasting security for dreamers and other groups.

“What is original in the president’s proposal is not good,” she said. “What is good in the proposal is not original.”

Republicans in the Senate will nonetheless take up Trump's proposals next week. The Oklahoma senator James Lankford told ABC's This Week the offer was “a reasonable compromise” and said: “The vote this week is not to pass the bill. It’s to open up and say, ‘Can we debate this? Can we amend it? Can we make changes?’”

Democrats are unlikely to join in. On Saturday Chuck Schumer, the minority leader in the Senate, accused Trump of “more hostage taking” as 800,000 federal government workers and hundreds of thousands of contractors continued to either work without pay or endure unpaid time off work.

Trump responded on Sunday by insulting Pelosi and deriding the cleanliness of the California city that she represents in Congress. He wrote in a tweet: “And by the way, clean up the streets in San Francisco, they are disgusting!”

The president’s proposal also met hostile reactions among many on the Republican right, highlighting a political dilemma that Trump, who claims to be a master dealmaker, has created for himself.

Some conservatives dismissed the offer as being akin to an amnesty itself. Ann Coulter, the far-right author, said in a tweet: “Trump proposes amnesty. We voted for Trump and got Jeb!”

The former Florida governor Jeb Bush, who was perceived as soft on immigration by the Republican right, was one of several candidates Trump defeated in the party’s 2016 presidential primary contest.
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Mike Pence, Trump’s vice-president, rejected the verdict of Coulter and other ultra-hardliners.

“It’s not amnesty,” he told Fox News on Sunday. “There’s no permanent status here at all, which is what amnesty contemplates.”
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Trump has threatened to unilaterally declare an emergency to secure funding for the wall if the Democratic-controlled House refuses to approve his plans. Legal analysts have warned that such a drastic move would likely be halted by the courts.

Senator Mark Warner of Virginia, a Democrat, said on Sunday that the chaotic shutdown would only be repeated on future policy disputes if his party caved to Trump’s demands on wall funding before a reopening of the government.

“If the president can arbitrarily shut down the government now, he will do it time and again,” Warner told NBC’s Meet The Press. He and other Democrats have proposed passing separate legislation to ensure the out-of-pocket government workers are paid.

Several opinion polls have indicated that a majority of Americans oppose Trump’s plan to build a border wall and that more people blame Trump for the ongoing shutdown than blame Democrats in Congress.

An average of polls compiled by RealClearPolitics currently states that 55.3% of Americans disapprove of Trump’s performance, the highest figure since last March. A little over 41% of people approve.
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45 cuts travel for congress - Further Guidance Forthcoming ! B@@M
« Reply #1729 on: January 20, 2019, 12:37:24 PM »

I luv that.... further guidance (lol)


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Re: 🤡 Trumpty-Dumpty POTUS Thread
« Reply #1730 on: January 20, 2019, 02:09:51 PM »
This is the Dunning Kruger effect at work.

Trumps bullshit is actually bush league and as the saying goes he is now out of his league.  Lost in the swamp he talks about.

I came up with the connection myself but a quick web search showed this.  I'm not alone.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/head-in-the-cloud/201701/the-dunning-kruger-president

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Try Googling "The Dunning-Kruger President." New York magazine, Salon, and Politico have recently published articles on that theme. They're referring to Donald Trump and to the Dunning-Kruger effect, a psychological principle that is becoming a lot better known than it once was.

Named for Cornell psychologist David Dunning and his then-grad student Justin Kruger, this is the observation that people who are ignorant or unskilled in a given domain tend to believe they are much more competent than they are. Thus bad drivers believe they're good drivers, the humorless think they know what's funny, and people who've never held public office think they're make a terrific president. How hard can it be?

The paradox being that if one is a total ass they will do very well at being a total ass when they get in water that is too deep for them.
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Re: 🤡 Trumpty-Dumpty POTUS Thread
« Reply #1731 on: January 20, 2019, 05:54:53 PM »
This is the Dunning Kruger effect at work.

Trumps bullshit is actually bush league and as the saying goes he is now out of his league.  Lost in the swamp he talks about.

I came up with the connection myself but a quick web search showed this.  I'm not alone.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/head-in-the-cloud/201701/the-dunning-kruger-president

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Try Googling "The Dunning-Kruger President." New York magazine, Salon, and Politico have recently published articles on that theme. They're referring to Donald Trump and to the Dunning-Kruger effect, a psychological principle that is becoming a lot better known than it once was.

Named for Cornell psychologist David Dunning and his then-grad student Justin Kruger, this is the observation that people who are ignorant or unskilled in a given domain tend to believe they are much more competent than they are. Thus bad drivers believe they're good drivers, the humorless think they know what's funny, and people who've never held public office think they're make a terrific president. How hard can it be?

The paradox being that if one is a total ass they will do very well at being a total ass when they get in water that is too deep for them.


Thank you for this clarification.....

This is unbelievable  ::)
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Re: 45 cuts travel for congress - Further Guidance Forthcoming ! B@@M
« Reply #1732 on: January 20, 2019, 08:07:54 PM »

I luv that.... further guidance (lol)


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Re: 🤡 Shutdown: Trump 'amnesty' tweet angers right and fails to draw Democrats
« Reply #1733 on: January 21, 2019, 04:27:53 AM »

An average of polls compiled by RealClearPolitics currently states that 55.3% of Americans disapprove of Trump’s performance, the highest figure since last March. A little over 41% of people approve.

IMHO as long as that 41% stays about there Trumpsky will not move. Once the 41% begin to feel pain then perhaps he will shift the paradigm (the lies will fly fast and furious-and he won't realize he is lying).
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Re: 🤡 Shutdown: Trump 'amnesty' tweet angers right and fails to draw Democrats
« Reply #1734 on: January 21, 2019, 04:40:45 AM »

An average of polls compiled by RealClearPolitics currently states that 55.3% of Americans disapprove of Trump’s performance, the highest figure since last March. A little over 41% of people approve.

IMHO as long as that 41% stays about there Trumpsky will not move. Once the 41% begin to feel pain then perhaps he will shift the paradigm (the lies will fly fast and furious-and he won't realize he is lying).
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Trump's strategy since day 1 has been to play to his base and maintain a minimum 30 per cent approval, which is about the tipping point. This involves a daily battle for the news cycle to control the narrative, hence the ceaseless lying and the through-the-looking-glass tweeting, m usually with a rage boner.

Never forget Nixon boarded his helicopter to deserved (if not realized) obscurity with 28 per cent approval. And this without a full time propaganda channel programming the stupid.

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It continues to amaze that four out of ten can still say they "approve"of this rolling nightmare.They are clearly not federal employees.
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Re: 🤡 Shutdown: Trump 'amnesty' tweet angers right and fails to draw Democrats
« Reply #1735 on: January 21, 2019, 04:44:32 AM »

An average of polls compiled by RealClearPolitics currently states that 55.3% of Americans disapprove of Trump’s performance, the highest figure since last March. A little over 41% of people approve.

IMHO as long as that 41% stays about there Trumpsky will not move. Once the 41% begin to feel pain then perhaps he will shift the paradigm (the lies will fly fast and furious-and he won't realize he is lying).
AJ

IMHO, something will break by the end of the next pay period.  Two paychecks gone, nearly 1,000,000 Federal Employees will be in desperate territory.  Things will ramp up.

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Re: 🤡 Trumpty-Dumpty POTUS Thread
« Reply #1736 on: January 21, 2019, 05:24:42 AM »
I think that's about the limit. One more missed paycheck.

Fucking moron. If the base ever does turn on him, they'll eat him alive. But the woods are full of QAnon believers and flat-earthers and climate deniers and who knows what else. Make America Great Again. Isn't that catchy?
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🤡 Rudy Giuliani’s Afraid Lying For Trump ‘Will Be On My Gravestone’
« Reply #1737 on: January 22, 2019, 02:51:17 AM »
Rudy will not be making it past St. Peter at the Pearly Gates, that's for sure.  ::)

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Rudy Giuliani’s Afraid Lying For Trump ‘Will Be On My Gravestone’
Trump’s attorney also claims he didn’t believe he’d said anything untruthful and had “a sense of ethics that is as high as anybody you can imagine.”


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Rudy Giuliani said he’s worried his defense of President Donald Trump could affect his decades-long legacy in politics but still feels his client is one of the “most unfairly” treated people in modern history.

“I am afraid it will be on my gravestone. ‘Rudy Giuliani: He lied for Trump.’” the former New York City mayor told The New Yorker’s Isaac Chotiner. “Somehow, I don’t think that will be it. But, if it is, so what do I care? I’ll be dead. I figure I can explain it to St. Peter. He will be on my side.”

Giuliani, the president’s lead attorney on matters related to special counsel Robert Mueller’s ongoing inquiry into the 2016 presidential election, went on to say that “as a lawyer” he didn’t believe he had ever said anything untruthful, and said he has “a sense of ethics that is as high as anybody you can imagine.”

Read the full interview at The New Yorker.

Giuliani has most recently come under fire for his comments about a BuzzFeed report last week that claimed Trump had ordered his former lawyer, Michael Cohen, to lie to Congress about an effort to build a Trump Tower in Moscow. Although the story drew a rare denial from Mueller’s office, BuzzFeed said it stands by the reporting.

Giuliani muddied the waters on Sunday after he told The New York Times that Trump was involved in the deal until the “day” he won the 2016 presidential election. However, he quickly walked back those remarks on Monday, saying they were “hypothetical” and that they “did not represent the actual timing or circumstances of any such discussions” he had with the president.

The timeline was important because it would give a clearer picture of the Trump camp’s efforts to work on a business deal with a foreign government during a political election.

In the interview with The New Yorker, Giuliani also distanced himself from his previous comments, saying the Times was “absolutely wrong.”

Giuliani then moved to walk back his earlier sentiment about his legacy amid more questioning from Chotiner, saying he didn’t reflect on the historical importance of his work.
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“All I think about is doing a good job and what I believe in. When I was mayor, I got criticized for a lot of things I was praised for now,” Giuliani said. “And, I think, when this is over, you are going to see that we are defending an innocent man who has been very unfairly treated.”
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Re: 🤡 Rudy Giuliani’s Afraid Lying For Trump ‘Will Be On My Gravestone’
« Reply #1738 on: January 22, 2019, 03:38:29 AM »
Rudy will not be making it past St. Peter at the Pearly Gates, that's for sure.  ::)

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Rudy Giuliani’s Afraid Lying For Trump ‘Will Be On My Gravestone’
Trump’s attorney also claims he didn’t believe he’d said anything untruthful and had “a sense of ethics that is as high as anybody you can imagine.”

Rudy has gone from being  "America's Mayor" to "Rudy 9-11" in trying to leverage that status for political gain, to the muttering magpie of malapropism soiling himself daily on cable news.

Hope he's already been paid. Trump stiffs his contractors.
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🤡 The Quickest Way to End the Shutdown (NO! The Show Must Go ON!)
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The Show Must Go ON!

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The Quickest Way to End the Shutdown


Republicans who want to reopen the government now have a realistic path.
By Jonathan Bernstein
January 22, 2019, 2:30 AM AKST

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One month into the government shutdown, there’s finally something resembling movement toward a resolution. Maybe.

After weeks of offering nothing new, President Donald Trump on Saturday proposed a bargain on immigration. To be sure: It’s not a very promising offer. Trump starts by reiterating his demand for $5.7 billion to build his border wall. Then, for Democrats, he adds temporary protections for immigrants who fall under Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals and an extension for those under Temporary Protected Status. But then he adds something more for the anti-immigration side: new restrictions on asylum. That isn’t a trade-off Democrats would ever likely accept, even leaving the border wall aside. It’s an offer intended to give the impression of flexibility without actually moving in the Democrats’ direction.

Nonetheless, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has promised a vote on the proposal. And that’s where the opportunity to end the shutdown comes in.

In the very unlikely event that Republicans are united and seven Democratic senators defect to join them, this measure would pass the Senate and put real pressure on House Democrats to negotiate a deal. If both parties stay united, on the other hand, Trump would have a majority but fall far short of defeating a filibuster. That would demonstrate that his deal doesn’t have the votes in either chamber, but also that the president retained the full support of his party. That result likely prolongs the standoff.

If, however, some of the Republicans who have claimed to be unhappy with Trump’s shutdown are willing to vote against the bill, then Trump’s position would be especially weak. It’d be clear that majorities of both chambers support ending the shutdown if only Trump would agree. Several Republicans have already said that they want to pass short-term funding bills to reopen the government while negotiations continue. They wouldn’t be taking on much added risk if they voted in line with their statements.

For those who want to support the president, it’d be easy enough to say that voting for this deal would be a vote to reopen the government, even though realistically there’s no chance it would get through the House. (McConnell has repeatedly said he won’t waste the Senate’s time by voting for something the president wouldn’t sign; he evidently has no similar hesitation about voting on something the Democratic House won’t pass.) But for any Republicans who want this shutdown to end, opposing Trump’s plan would be the quickest way to make that happen.

1. Matthew Green at Mischiefs of Faction is exactly correct on Trump, the House Freedom Caucus and the shutdown.

2. Josh Huder at the Monkey Cage on the House committee to reform the House.

3. Julie Novkov at A House Divided on deporting veterans, now and historically.

4. Bob Bauer at Lawfare asks a sadly relevant question: What if the House impeaches and the Senate just ignores it?

5. Glenn Kessler, Salvador Rizzo and Meg Kelly have their latest count on Trump’s false or misleading statements. Yes, there are judgement calls involved, and some of these are no doubt trivial. I’m also not sure that Trump’s worst falsehoods measure up to the worst of previous presidents. But no president has ever shown such a blatant disregard for the truth on a routine basis. It’s not close.

6. And back at the Monkey Cage, Bethany Lacina on public opinion about football players.

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