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Re: Strictly DD Updates Log
« Reply #60 on: May 24, 2017, 03:39:05 PM »
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How do I find out what php version it is, and why can't you find that out?

Go to https://doomsteaddiner.net/palloy/phpversion.php and it will tell you what PHP version is running. I've just recently added that page because after changing from v5.6.30 to v7.0.16 the problem first started. When you told me the blog was giving a blank page,  I checked and it wasn't. What am i supposed to make of that? - it should be impossible.  So i asked for the PHP version you were getting, there was little  point in looking it up myself since I wasn't getting a blank page. It all points to  you (or someone with the CPanel password) having changed the version or it having reverted itself so if you  reported the version as being 7.0.16 my next question was going to be "did you change it?" and you responded that the page was now working and STILL didn't tell me what version you got.  Can you see how frustrating that is? But trying to untangle bugs in complex software packages IS frustrating, and needs a calm and forsenic approach - beauty of it is that it is all perfectly logical ( a beauty that most people cannot see).

Am I now preparing a WordPress bug report which has to explain to a completely new bunch of people what our set up is like ( 2 domains, each with a Wordpress blog and and an SMF forum, and the 2 PHP versions ) and what was done to produce the error.  Given that WordPress claims to have been PHP-7 compatible since 2015, this will be quite a surprise to them, and they will have lots more forensic questions.  WE might even make HackerNews:  "WordPress is all fucked up - irate user reports"

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Re: Strictly DD Updates Log
« Reply #61 on: May 24, 2017, 05:59:13 PM »
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How do I find out what php version it is, and why can't you find that out?

Go to https://doomsteaddiner.net/palloy/phpversion.php and it will tell you what PHP version is running. I've just recently added that page because after changing from v5.6.30 to v7.0.16 the problem first started. When you told me the blog was giving a blank page,  I checked and it wasn't. What am i supposed to make of that? - it should be impossible.  So i asked for the PHP version you were getting, there was little  point in looking it up myself since I wasn't getting a blank page. It all points to  you (or someone with the CPanel password) having changed the version or it having reverted itself so if you  reported the version as being 7.0.16 my next question was going to be "did you change it?" and you responded that the page was now working and STILL didn't tell me what version you got.  Can you see how frustrating that is? But trying to untangle bugs in complex software packages IS frustrating, and needs a calm and forsenic approach - beauty of it is that it is all perfectly logical ( a beauty that most people cannot see).

Am I now preparing a WordPress bug report which has to explain to a completely new bunch of people what our set up is like ( 2 domains, each with a Wordpress blog and and an SMF forum, and the 2 PHP versions ) and what was done to produce the error.  Given that WordPress claims to have been PHP-7 compatible since 2015, this will be quite a surprise to them, and they will have lots more forensic questions.  WE might even make HackerNews:  "WordPress is all fucked up - irate user reports"

According to that page, it is running PHP Version: 5.6.30.

No I didn't change it.

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Re: Strictly DD Updates Log
« Reply #62 on: May 24, 2017, 06:29:57 PM »
The fact that under PHP-7 the DD front page is blank, but SUN front page is OK,
and that under PHP-5 they both work OK,
 implies that is one the DD-plugins is not PHP-7 compatible.
To prove this theory, it will be necessary to change the PHP version,
so it is essential to check the version when reporting errors,
(and don't bother reporting errors if php Version is 7.0.16)

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SUN  Akismet 3.2.2
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« Last Edit: May 24, 2017, 06:37:58 PM by Palloy2 »
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Re: Strictly DD Updates Log
« Reply #63 on: May 24, 2017, 06:43:38 PM »
Hmmm - that didn't seem to change anything. :icon_scratch:
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Re: Strictly DD Updates Log
« Reply #64 on: May 24, 2017, 07:19:03 PM »
The fact that under PHP-7 the DD front page is blank, but SUN front page is OK,
and that under PHP-5 they both work OK,
 implies that is one the DD-plugins is not PHP-7 compatible.
To prove this theory, it will be necessary to change the PHP version,
so it is essential to check the version when reporting errors,
(and don't bother reporting errors if php Version is 7.0.16)

Updated WP-plugins at 25 May 2107 01:00GMT
DD   amr shortcode
       CleanTalk 5.66
       Google Analytics 5.0.0.1
       Ninja Forms

SUN  Akismet 3.2.2
        Captcha 4.3.0
        ContactForm  4.0.6
        Donate 2.1.1
        Gallery 2.2.0
        Google Analytics 5t.0.0.1
        Paid Memberships 1.9.1
        CleanTalk 5.66

I have a live chat going with ASO Support.  I will report back when I get an answer.

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Re: Strictly DD Updates Log
« Reply #65 on: May 24, 2017, 07:25:14 PM »
The fact that under PHP-7 the DD front page is blank, but SUN front page is OK,
and that under PHP-5 they both work OK,
 implies that is one the DD-plugins is not PHP-7 compatible.
To prove this theory, it will be necessary to change the PHP version,
so it is essential to check the version when reporting errors,
(and don't bother reporting errors if php Version is 7.0.16)

Updated WP-plugins at 25 May 2107 01:00GMT
DD   amr shortcode
       CleanTalk 5.66
       Google Analytics 5.0.0.1
       Ninja Forms

SUN  Akismet 3.2.2
        Captcha 4.3.0
        ContactForm  4.0.6
        Donate 2.1.1
        Gallery 2.2.0
        Google Analytics 5t.0.0.1
        Paid Memberships 1.9.1
        CleanTalk 5.66

I have a live chat going with ASO Support.  I will report back when I get an answer.

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You can check it by logging into cPanel>errors
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Re: Strictly DD Updates Log
« Reply #66 on: May 25, 2017, 12:30:28 AM »
Thanks for that.
CPanel > Errors appears to be a list of the last 300 Apache (web server) errors which is not very helpful in this case.
PHP is integrated with Apache but it is interpreted by the Zend Engine (of which v7 is a complete rewrite, but thoroughly tested).
Searching [CPanel "php error log"] opens a whole new can of worms and nothing that I feel like trying, given that everything seems to be OK if we stick with PHP 5.6.30 .

So the solution I propose is: do nothing, unless/until wordpress comes up with a solution.
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Re: Strictly DD Updates Log
« Reply #67 on: May 25, 2017, 01:39:19 AM »
Thanks for that.
CPanel > Errors appears to be a list of the last 300 Apache (web server) errors which is not very helpful in this case.
PHP is integrated with Apache but it is interpreted by the Zend Engine (of which v7 is a complete rewrite, but thoroughly tested).
Searching [CPanel "php error log"] opens a whole new can of worms and nothing that I feel like trying, given that everything seems to be OK if we stick with PHP 5.6.30 .

So the solution I propose is: do nothing, unless/until wordpress comes up with a solution.

Seems reasonable to me, since I was able to get the last blog from Albert Bates up and edit it.  Still can't edit the Grim Reaper blog though.  Still no SAVE DRAFT button on that page.

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Re: Strictly DD Updates Log
« Reply #68 on: May 26, 2017, 06:09:10 PM »
27 may 2017 00:50GMT
Repaired Database “doomstea_smp_d2db72” via CPanel after 2 "Table is marked as crashed" errors.
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Re: Strictly DD Updates Log
« Reply #69 on: July 23, 2017, 06:53:09 PM »
24 July 2017
  New SSL certificate uploaded.
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Re: Strictly DD Updates Log
« Reply #70 on: January 28, 2018, 04:34:26 PM »
29 Jan 2018

Upgraded 2 subdomains to PHP-7.0 OK
Checked doomsteaddiner.net/blog/ wasn't blank - it WAS.
Reverted to PHP-5.6
Full virus scan - 0 infected.
Full backup - OK (This hasn't been done since May 2017 !!!)
Upgrade SMF to 2.0.15 - OK

Someone MUST do this regularly !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The full backup needs to be downloaded to make it safely off-site.  /home/doomstea/backup-29.01.2018_ ... tar.gz [4.8 GB]
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Re: Strictly DD Updates Log
« Reply #71 on: January 28, 2018, 04:39:16 PM »
Thanks Palloy. You rock. Please don't die or get pissed off and go walkabout.
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Re: Strictly DD Updates Log
« Reply #72 on: February 09, 2018, 04:21:16 PM »
10 Feb 2018 00:20
Updated WP to 4.9.4 OK
updated 15 wp-plugins OK

The update to 4.9.3 had an error in it that fixed some security issues but broke the automatic update process, so 4.9.4 fixed that.
« Last Edit: February 09, 2018, 04:23:29 PM by Palloy2 »
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