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Friday the 13th 2017 Trumpty-Dumpty Edition
« on: January 13, 2017, 11:21:59 AM »
It's Friday the 13th, right before Trumpty-Dumpty is installed as POTUS.  Is that just a COINKIDINK?  ???  :icon_scratch:

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Re: Friday the 13th 2017 Trumpty-Dumpty Edition
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2017, 01:02:43 PM »
I was reading an article on Friday 13th and one of the interesting points touched upon is that numerology the number 12 is seen as the number of completeness. With 12 you have the 12 hours in day and the 12 months in a year. In addition the idea that the number of 12 represents completeness is present in ancient mythology AND religion:
  • The twelve labours of Hercules
  • The twelve tribes of Israel
  • The twelve Apostles of Jesus
  • The twelve successors of Muhammad in Shia Islam
Since 13 is the number immediately preceding 12 the number 13 is seen as a number of change/transition that can lead to uncertain fates. What's more there is the association of reverting back to a completed state and this is reflected in the Norse mythology idea that if there are 13 diners to a table it is a omen one will die to revert the table 12. Overall though the unlucky association of 13 mainly stems from the Abrahamic religions. Non Abrahamic or pagan communities tended to see Friday 13th in a better light. Like the major religions of the time 13 is still seen as number of change but instead of seeing in a negative light it seen as an opportunity to embrace change. The way the pagans saw it was since 13 is a moment of change then it was good to take this change head on and go with the flow of nature. This as you see was problematic for the major religions who wanted to put god as their primary driving force and not nature. Also it was not seen in their interests to endorse pagan sentiment hence the positive association was eliminated through time.

I can say that Trump - for good or bad - will be a force of nature that leads to some change. More so than Obama I feel. Perhaps his inauguration that comes a week after a Friday 13th is a omen for that.

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Re: Friday the 13th 2017 Trumpty-Dumpty Edition
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2017, 02:56:17 PM »
I was reading an article on Friday 13th and one of the interesting points touched upon is that numerology the number 12 is seen as the number of completeness. With 12 you have the 12 hours in day and the 12 months in a year. In addition the idea that the number of 12 represents completeness is present in ancient mythology AND religion:
  • The twelve labours of Hercules
  • The twelve tribes of Israel
  • The twelve Apostles of Jesus
  • The twelve successors of Muhammad in Shia Islam
Since 13 is the number immediately preceding 12 the number 13 is seen as a number of change/transition that can lead to uncertain fates. What's more there is the association of reverting back to a completed state and this is reflected in the Norse mythology idea that if there are 13 diners to a table it is a omen one will die to revert the table 12. Overall though the unlucky association of 13 mainly stems from the Abrahamic religions. Non Abrahamic or pagan communities tended to see Friday 13th in a better light. Like the major religions of the time 13 is still seen as number of change but instead of seeing in a negative light it seen as an opportunity to embrace change. The way the pagans saw it was since 13 is a moment of change then it was good to take this change head on and go with the flow of nature. This as you see was problematic for the major religions who wanted to put god as their primary driving force and not nature. Also it was not seen in their interests to endorse pagan sentiment hence the positive association was eliminated through time.

I can say that Trump - for good or bad - will be a force of nature that leads to some change. More so than Obama I feel. Perhaps his inauguration that comes a week after a Friday 13th is a omen for that.


You may want to look into the sacred ways of the number 13 through the native american traditions.
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Re: Friday the 13th 2017 Trumpty-Dumpty Edition
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2017, 03:00:50 PM »
12 Apostles + Hey suess = 13
12 zodiac signs + Ophicius ? = 13
13 month lunar cycles in a solar year.
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Re: Friday the 13th 2017 Trumpty-Dumpty Edition
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2017, 03:01:40 PM »
I can say that Trump - for good or bad - will be a force of nature that leads to some change.

"Change you can be TERRIFIED of"


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Re: Friday the 13th 2017 Trumpty-Dumpty Edition
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2017, 03:09:08 PM »
I can say that Trump - for good or bad - will be a force of nature that leads to some change.

"Change you can be TERRIFIED of"


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Jamie Dimon is hopeful about Donald Trump
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2017, 04:34:48 PM »
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Jamie Dimon is hopeful about Donald Trump
by Paul R. La Monica   @lamonicabuzz January 13, 2017: 10:19 AM ET
Trump tapping top CEOs for advisory group
JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon seems hopeful that better times for the economy lie ahead under President-elect Donald Trump.

The bank reported better than expected profit for the fourth quarter Friday. And in its earnings release, Dimon suggested more good news could be coming for banks -- and for Americans -- in the months ahead.

"The U.S. economy may be building momentum," Dimon said. "Looking ahead there is opportunity for good, rational and thoughtful policy decisions to be implemented, which would spur growth, create jobs for Americans across the income spectrum and help communities."
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Dimon didn't mention Trump by name or cite specifics about the possibility of Trump and the Republican-led Congress unwinding some of President Obama's financial reforms.

During a conference call with reporters, Dimon tempered his enthusiasm.

"I'm usually an optimist. But I'm neither euphoric nor depressed," he said, adding that he is hopeful there will be more regulatory and tax reform. He added that it's too soon to tell what, if anything, will change in Washington.

Dimon will clearly have a key role in helping the new president's economic policy though.

Related: Wall Street hates the Volcker Rule. Will Trump kill it?

Dimon is one of 16 CEOs on Trump's Strategic and Policy Forum, a group that also includes IBM (IBM, Tech30) CEO Ginni Rometty, Disney (DIS) CEO Bob Iger, GM (GM) CEO Mary Barra and Walmart (WMT) CEO Doug McMillon.

Asked during the media call what advice he would whisper in Trump's ear, Dimon quipped, "I don't whisper." He declined to give specifics about what specifically he would suggest, saying there is no one big thing that must be addressed first.

Answering a question from CNNMoney, Dimon said he was not overly worried about Trump's attacks against companies for doing business in Mexico or about his protectionist rhetoric -- even though JPMorgan Chase does business around the globe.

Dimon said he's putting aside the Trump one-liners and is "comforted" that Trump has put "professionals" in the administration such as treasury nominee Steven Mnuchin, a former Goldman Sachs exec, billionaire investor Wilbur Ross for commerce secretary and former ExxonMobil (XOM) CEO Rex Tillerson for secretary of state.

"Give him some time," Dimon said of Trump.

Even though Dimon said there are still questions about what's next for banks, Wall Street seemed pleased with the results. JPMorgan Chase's (JPM) stock was up nearly 2% in early trading Friday following its earnings.

The stock, along with that of other banks, has been on a tear since the election -- largely because of hopes for fewer regulations and rising interest rates, which would boost profits.

Shares of JPMorgan Chase are up 23% since the election. Bank of America (BAC) has also risen sharply, and it, too, reported solid earnings Friday morning.

BofA CEO Brian Moynihan didn't mention Trump either in his bank's earnings release. But he pointed out that the Fed, which raised interest rates last month and is expected to do so several more times this year, will help BofA.

Related: Wells Fargo dumps toxic 'cross-selling' metric

JPMorgan Chase CFO Marianne Lake echoed that during her bank's earnings call with reporters. She said the company was excited about more rate hikes but that it will take time for them to improve profits.

"We are still at absolutely very low levels of rates," she noted.

Scandal-ridden Wells Fargo (WFC) also reported its latest results on Friday morning. The bank, which was forced to admit last year that it opened up millions of fake accounts, disappointed Wall Street with earnings and sales that missed forecasts.

But shares of both BofA and Wells Fargo rallied Friday along with JPMorgan Chase.

Several other big banks, including Citigroup (C), Morgan Stanley (MS) and Goldman Sachs (GS), will report their latest results next week.
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