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Re: BOTS
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2017, 11:35:14 AM »
http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2017/07/security-robot-dies-in-dc-office-fountain/

Just hours after Tesla and SpaceX CEO and all-around futurist Elon Musk spoke at the National Governors Association meeting in Rhode Island and warned the politicians that artificial intelligence poses an “existential threat” to human civilization, a security robot working outside a Washington, D.C. office building drowned in a fountain. Was it a malfunction? Was it the stress of guarding unappreciative humans who may turn on it upon orders from their Lord Elon? What do other robots and AI think? If it’s a suicide, does this mean that robots have already achieved an existential level and Musk’s warning is closer than we think? Will the movie based on this incident be a sci-fi action film or a comedy?

The autonomous Knightscope K5 had only been on patrol for a few days at its job outside the Washington Harbour office and retail complex in Georgetown where it is responsible for spotting misdemeanors, citing parking violations and identifying known criminals using its GPS, lasers, sensors, cameras and facial recognition software. On July 17th, employees at the building tweeted that the 300-pound, 5-foot-tall bullet-shaped droid was dead in the water … literally.

Our D.C. office building got a security robot. It drowned itself. We were promised flying cars, instead we got suicidal robots.
    — Bilal Farooqui (@bilalfarooqui)

What happened? The K5 certainly has enough equipment to handle any emergency … a 360-degree video camera array, sensitive microphones that can identify gunshots, air quality sensors, thermal imaging capability, a siren and a phone to call for help. Perhaps the phone directory had call 911 but not the suicide hotline number? Did the engineers forget to put in an edge sensor for steps? Even a Roomba has one of those. Did K5 turn it off itself? Why?

Human security officers rushed in, first to insure that no humans were hurt – no one was – and then to tend to the robot, which had no pulse and no identifiable spot to place the defibrillator paddles. Knightscope issued a perfunctory statement saying it was investigating this “isolated event” and was rushing a replacement, to the consternation of office workers hoping to park free for a few days.

Was this “isolated event” just an accident that can be fixed with a sensor? The K5 robots have been having problems lately with one knocking down a child at a mall and another being knocked down itself by a drunk. Is K5 robotically depressed because it sees these ‘imperfections’ continuing due to robots being built by imperfect humans? Is the solution to let AI built robots? Is this what Musk is warning about?

Is this what Douglas Adams’ robot Marvin was warning about?

Robots need to be programmed to recognize that Dihydrogen Oxide (i.e. water) is deleterious to their electronics.

It's time to sue the programmer.
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Re: BOTS
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2017, 12:20:59 PM »
Bots gone WILD !

& stuck on stupid....

Ain't technology a beautiful thang'  :icon_mrgreen:
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Re: BOTS
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2017, 11:46:38 AM »
Roomba’s Next Big Step Is Selling Maps of Your Home to the Highest Bidder

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The Roomba is generally regarded as a cute little robot friend that no one but dogs would consider to be a potential menace. But for the last couple of years, the robovacs have been quietly mapping homes to maximize efficiency. Now, the device’s makers plan to sell that data to smart home device manufacturers, turning the friendly robot into a creeping, creepy little spy.

While it may seem like the information that a Roomba could gather is minimal, there’s a lot to be gleaned from the maps it’s constantly updating. It knows the floor plan of your home, the basic shape of everything on your floor, what areas require the most maintenance, and how often you require cleaning cycles, along with many other data points. And, according to Reuters, that data is the future of its business strategy:

    “There’s an entire ecosystem of things and services that the smart home can deliver once you have a rich map of the home that the user has allowed to be shared,” said [iRobot CEO Colin] Angle.

    Angle told Reuters that iRobot, which made Roomba compatible with Amazon’s Alexa voice assistant in March, could reach a deal to sell its maps to one or more of the Big Three in the next couple of years.

If a company like Amazon, for example, wanted to improve its Echo smart speaker, the Roomba’s mapping info could certainly help out. Spatial mapping could improve audio performance by taking advantage of the room’s acoustics. Do you have a large room that’s practically empty? Targeted furniture ads might be quite effective. The laser and camera sensors would paint a nice portrait for lighting needs that would factor into smart lights that adjust in real time. Smart AC units could better control airflow. And additional sensors added in the future would gather even more data from this live-in double agent.

And while Amazon seems like an obvious buyer—the kind that would pay huge money to shut out its competitors—don’t forget that Apple has its Siri speaker coming and it has a lot of catching up to do. The kind of data that iRobot is offering would give any developer a huge opportunity to fine tune the experience.

Maybe that doesn’t unnerve you, but it probably should. This is all part of the larger quest for a few major companies to hoover up every bit of data about you that they can. Now, they want to know all about your living space. Going through the iRobot terms of service, you can see just how much data is already being collected on a daily basis just by clicking like on a Facebook page or visiting a corporate website. And that data will likely be just as insecure tomorrow as it is today.

The question for iRobot and other manufacturers who are working with robovacs that use mapping is: Will users reject their product in favor of cheaper devices that offer more privacy? Angle doesn’t think that will be a problem. He tells Reuters that user data won’t be sold without permission and he thinks most people will want to take advantage of the greater functionality.

The iRobot Home app does clearly inform users that they are capable of turning off the cloud sharing functions on their Roomba. But the actual terms of servicedocument is written in typically convoluted legal language. The privacy policyframes most data collection as something that will just make your device better and improve overall user experience. A section of the policy on sharing personal information with third parties bullet points out the situations in which iRobot could share this data.

At a glance it might seem like there’s only a narrow set of circumstances for third parties to get ahold of your info, but in reality, these guidelines give the company tons of freedom. It can share your data internally, with subsidiaries, third party vendors, and the government upon request. While a section about sharing data with third parties for marketing purposes specifies that the user must give consent, there’s this separate bullet point below that:

    [We may share your personal information with] other parties in connection with any company transaction, such as a merger, sale of all or a portion of company assets or shares, reorganization, financing, change of control or acquisition of all or a portion of our business by another company or third party or in the event of bankruptcy or related or similar proceeding.

Depending on a court’s interpretation of that language, it would appear that your consent isn’t necessarily required if iRobot wanted to sell its user data in bulk to Apple. That doesn’t mean it would go forward with such a transaction without notifying users first.

Dyson, a high-end Roomba competitor, does a better job of giving users a quick breakdown of what’s in its privacy policy. But the particulars aren’t all that different than what iRobot sets out in its agreement. Dyson does promise to never “sell your personal information to anyone and only share it as outlined in this privacy policy or when you ask us to.” Of course, there’s still some wiggle room in there and Dyson also has agreements to interact with third party devices like the Amazon Echo.

And that’s the thing. If a company isn’t using simultaneous localization and mapping (or SLAM, as the mapping technology used by Roomba and its competitors is known), their robovac is probably inferior. If a company is making a robovac that uses the advanced tech, big data is the business model it should be thinking about. People will likely click “agree” to whatever terms are put in front of them. Hell, I never considered buying a Roomba until I started writing this article and thought about how much neater my apartment would be if I had one. Convenience trumps privacy every time. Just remember that the Roomba knows what room your child is in, it’s the one where it bumps into all the toys on the floor.
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Re: BOTS
« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2017, 12:01:02 PM »
Roomba’s Next Big Step Is Selling Maps of Your Home to the Highest Bidder


Nothing safe or sacred in the latter day FSoA.

AZ, if you include the links, it makes it easier to post to social meda. Just FYI. Good find.
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BOTS - Army Just Ordered ALL Soldiers to STOP Using China's DJI Drones
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2017, 02:46:23 PM »
http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2017/08/us-army-just-ordered-soldiers-stop-using-drones-chinas-dji/139999/?oref=DefenseOneTCO&utm_content=buffer4ed08&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer


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Re: BOTS - Army Just Ordered ALL Soldiers to STOP Using China's DJI Drones
« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2017, 05:06:33 AM »
http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2017/08/us-army-just-ordered-soldiers-stop-using-drones-chinas-dji/139999/?oref=DefenseOneTCO&utm_content=buffer4ed08&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer


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Really have to wonder why. Article is not helpful in that regard...
We have a DJI Inspire at work, and its capacity for security breaches is not readily apparent.
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Re: BOTS - Army Just Ordered ALL Soldiers to STOP Using China's DJI Drones
« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2017, 12:59:35 PM »
http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2017/08/us-army-just-ordered-soldiers-stop-using-drones-chinas-dji/139999/?oref=DefenseOneTCO&utm_content=buffer4ed08&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer


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Really have to wonder why. Article is not helpful in that regard...
We have a DJI Inspire at work, and its capacity for security breaches is not readily apparent.



I guess the reason is useless. Da' gooberment lies anyway so what good would an excuse serve.
We'll keep posted on the details.
Probably some kind of trade war bullshit.....
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BOTS-This Huge Robot Will Drive Up and Build You a House
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2017, 01:14:14 PM »
https://singularityhub.com/2016/09/30/this-huge-robot-will-drive-up-and-build-you-a-house-video/


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Originally on singularityhub.com by Andrew J. O’Keefe II

 

Bricklaying is a very old, traditional way to build a house—except now we have robots doing it faster than people. Hadrian X, a construction robot by Fastbrick Robotics, is a laser-guided, fully-automated bricklaying system. Its aim? Building brick houses in days instead of weeks.

Fastbrick Robotics spent a decade and millions of dollars developing Hadrian X. Now, it’s almost ready for commercial deployment. Recently, the company announced an agreement with Archistruct Builders and Designers to use the robot to build 11 homes in Perth, Australia.

“The framework agreement also presents a fantastic opportunity for our commercial pilot, where we will demonstrate to the world the capabilities of the Hadrian X,” Fastbrick Robotics CEO Mark Pivack told The West Australian.

We covered the Hadrian brick-laying system last year but didn’t get the chance to see it in action. The company recently released a video showing what it can do.

How does Hadrian X work? Workers load the machine with bricks. It cuts them to size and feeds them up a conveyor belt inside a long, crane-like arm. Guided by a computer design and lasers, the arm swings into place and a robotic gripper at the arm’s end precisely places each brick. The system coats the bricks in a glue-like adhesive in place of traditional mortar.

The whole system is built into a truck which can be driven up to the construction site.

The really amazing bit? Hadrian X can lay up to 1,000 custom-sized bricks per hour, and according to Fastbrick, it will be able to build the brick frame of a full home in just days.

Of course, not all homes are of brick, nor are all homebuilding robots like Hadrian. Another approach, long in the works, is the 3D printing of houses using printers that extrude concrete or other materials. USC’s Behrokh Koshnevis was one of the earliest to work on the technology with his Contour Crafting system. In recent years, China’s Winsun has made headlines too. Even 3D printing using natural materials, like mud, are beginning to look interesting.

The bigger picture here? For Fastbrick, it’s about automating jobs, like bricklaying, that are already experiencing worker shortages as younger generations seek employment elsewhere. More than that, it’s about reducing the cost and time investment of building homes, with the hope we’ll be able to supply more of them to areas where housing is most needed.

With up to 100 million people homeless worldwide, the world could use more self-contained systems of construction and homebuilding to scale for cheap. And even as the future of work remains uncertain, with tech like this we’ll at least have a stronger foundation to build from.
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Re: BOTS
« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2017, 12:08:41 PM »
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BOTS This will creep you out...
« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2017, 06:09:59 AM »
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/woman-machine-you-wont-know-11249908

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Re: BOTS This will creep you out...
« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2017, 08:02:00 AM »
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/woman-machine-you-wont-know-11249908

You were right.

With the rollout of most technologies, it's the pornographers who exploit it first. Look at the VCR, DVD, web,etc. Which then invokes the question of the morality of sex with robots. (Thinking Daryl Hannah's turn as a "pleasure unit" in the original "Blade Runner." BTW "Blade Runner 2049" is coming soon, and I can't wait.



This is an ethical question of some complexity, and it's one I never thought would ever be engaged in my lifetime.

But your link demonstates that we are on the cusp of needing to deal with it. Fascinating.
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Re: BOTS This will creep you out...
« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2017, 08:15:26 AM »
With the rollout of most technologies, it's the pornographers who exploit it first. Look at the VCR, DVD, web,etc. Which then invokes the question of the morality of sex with robots. (Thinking Daryl Hannah's turn as a "pleasure unit" in the original "Blade Runner."

"Pleasure Units" actually was coined in the 1966 film Our Man Flint.


The pleasure units weren't robots though, mad scientists had live females hypnotized.

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Re: BOTS This will creep you out...
« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2017, 08:56:06 AM »
With the rollout of most technologies, it's the pornographers who exploit it first. Look at the VCR, DVD, web,etc. Which then invokes the question of the morality of sex with robots. (Thinking Daryl Hannah's turn as a "pleasure unit" in the original "Blade Runner."

"Pleasure Units" actually was coined in the 1966 film Our Man Flint.


The pleasure units weren't robots though, mad scientists had live females hypnotized.

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The role of RE today will be played by John Ratzenberger.



Those of us without backgrounds in the sciences or hypnosis had to rely on liquor and a good line of bushwa.
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Re: BOTS This will creep you out...
« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2017, 12:53:21 PM »
With the rollout of most technologies, it's the pornographers who exploit it first. Look at the VCR, DVD, web,etc. Which then invokes the question of the morality of sex with robots. (Thinking Daryl Hannah's turn as a "pleasure unit" in the original "Blade Runner."

"Pleasure Units" actually was coined in the 1966 film Our Man Flint.


The pleasure units weren't robots though, mad scientists had live females hypnotized.

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Your out of bounds here....

This is the AI wing of the asylum, you need to be over in QHHT  :icon_scratch:
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I know exactly what you mean. Let me tell you why you’re here. You’re here because you know something. What you know you can’t explain, but you feel it. You’ve felt it your entire life, that there’s something wrong with the world.
You don’t know what it is but its there, like a splinter in your mind

 

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