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« Reply #270 on: December 08, 2018, 12:37:28 PM »
We can't possibly use that title because it's way too politically incorrect. It's discriminates against butt pirates.

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« Reply #271 on: December 08, 2018, 12:42:28 PM »
HERE is your post-SHTF collapse vehicle for your doomstead!


Go Anywhere. Anytime
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John Arens



vendor.2013.mattracks.litefoot.on-utv.on-snow.jpgThere are tires for sand, snow, mud, and every other type of riding condition, but when the snow gets too deep or the bog too soft, nothing can get you through a tough spot like a good set of tracks.  MATTRACKS has been building tracks for everything from tractors to ATVs since 1994 and we’ve tried their track systems on rough, rocky terrain, across a muddy swamp, up hills that would give our relatives cause to worry, and of course, on snow.  Their unique, shape changing suspension lets them crawl over uneven or rocky terrain like nothing else, and recently they’ve updated their lineup to cover even more models.   
Mattracks Manufacturing Excellence

The company that has put tracks on every continent began as a drawing and a dream by an 11 year old boy who asked his father if he could build it.  The simple rubber track conversion system quickly found acceptance with consumers, and today the company operates from a 160,000 square foot facility in the town of Karlstad, Minnesota.  Everything from engineering to manufacturing is contained in-house, and Mattracks is one of the only vehicle track producers in the world that operates their own rubber molding line.  They also have a full machining department, assembly lines, and they control the entire manufacturing process so well they even design their own tools and production machinery.  What it means is excellent quality control from start to finish.vendor.2013.mattracks.litefoot.on-atv.camo.on-snow.jpg
The Lifefoot Line

Mattracks calls their ATV and Side x Side track systems the LiteFoot Line.  The LiteFoot track system is designed to increase floatation on soft ground or snow while decreasing compaction, and one feature that works extremely well for crawling over uneven or rocky terrain is the shape changing suspension which Mattracks calls SCS. 

The LiteFoot SCS track frame is equipped with a variable rate, pivoting four-link suspension.  It allows you to adjust your track length, approach angle, and down pressure by turning an adjustment bolt.  By changing the leading approach angle of the track, you can dial it in for a flatter footprint and better flotation in snow or mud, or for better climbing over rocks or logs.  The LiteFoot system is also available with three different tread patterns with the following unique features:

M3 - The "Extra Heavy Duty" version of the utility rated M3 track system.  Rated to handle the weight and torque of even the heaviest Side x Sides, the M3 features the most aggressive tread for high flotation and traction in soft terrain.

    Heavy Duty 4 link, quad spring internal suspension
    13" wide track
    3/4" paddle style
    4200 G.V.W.R. [1905 kg]

XL - Designed exclusively for ATVs.  The LiteFoot XL is the economical alternative to Mattracks’ best riding track system. The LiteFoot XL tracks retain Mattracks’ superior quality, legendary performance and great features.

    11" wide track
    1" tread lug
    1500 G.V.W.R. [680 kg]

XT - The "Extra Heavy Duty" version of the utility rated XT track system is built for Side x Sides but offers a less aggressive tread pattern and great traction on most terrain.  Shorter lugs with wide surface area also allow for easier ride on hard terrain.

    Heavy Duty 4 link, quad spring internal suspension
    11" wide track
    1" versatile all-terrain treads
    4200 G.V.W.R. [1905 kg]

MATTRACKS realized that some trailers need tracks too and the Trail-R-Mate XT is designed to let the trailer float across any terrain as easily as the tow vehicle.  vendor.2013.mattracks.litefoot.on-side-x-side.on-snow.jpg

    11" wide track
    Tread lug choices
    1200 G.V.W.R. [545 kg]

The one piece tracks have internal belting, composite reinforcement, and are made from a specially formulated rubber compound designed to operate over many types of terrain.  Track systems designed for Side x Sides are rated for the higher overall vehicle weight as well.
Installation

Installing the LiteFoot track system is not unlike changing the tires, although it will take you a little longer.  Each track drives off the ATV or Side x Side wheel hub, but there are a few brackets you will need to install to keep the tracks from going around like a wheel.  Each set comes preassembled, and about all you need to do is jack up your ATV or Side x Side and start bolting it on.  If you would rather just pick it up and drive into the woods, your local dealer will be glad to install them for you.  MATTRACKS did make another major engineering breakthrough this year with the creation of their Sprositive Drive system for ATVs and Side x Sides.   
Spositive Drive

Because of the front differentials on ATVs and UTVs, the front wheels sometimes turn at different rates which can affect traction and handling.  To compensate for this, the Sprositive Drive System has been specially designed to eliminate the gear-like backlash.  By eliminating the slack in the front sprockets pitch and changing the pitch ratio in the rear, the Sprositive Drive allows the machine to stay locked in 4WD and helps keep all tracks pulling at the same speed. The Sprositive Drive options are available for Polaris, John Deere, Club Car, Bobcat, Case IH, New Holland and?Cub Cadet UTVs and even some Polaris ATVs. vendor.2013.mattracks.litefoot.on-atv.over-rocks.jpg
All Terran Tested

Everybody likes the looks of an ATV or Side x Side with the LiteFoot system installed.  It’s like having your own personal tank or ‘dozer and the vehicle sits much higher; you get MUCH more ground clearance.  It’s manly!  Width is also greatly increased as well, but because of the wider and longer footprint, it feels very stable.  We tried the kit on several different machines in mud, on snow, up very steep hills, across boulders, and on sand. 

The first riding area we tried was deep in Minnesota mining territory with trails that would up, down, and around HUGE piles of iron ore mine tailings.  We hopped aboard the Yamaha Grizzly and quickly found the tracks don’t take much power to turn, but they effectively change the gear ratio since the drive “wheels” on each track are a different size than the ATV tire.  That means a little less top speed, and you operate a little higher in the RPM range.  Mattracks recommends you don’t install the kit on ATVs under 400cc though.  The biggest difference between the wheels and the track system is found in steering.  The tracks can’t turn as far as a tire can, and winding through very tight trees is not going to happen.  Instead you’ll use reverse and make a few 3 point turns, and it will take a little more arm muscle.  One Grizzly was equipped with Electronic Power Steering and the required steering effort was about the same as with mud tires.  Where the tracks really shine, however, is where regular tires can never go.  vendor.2013.mattracks.litefoot.on-atv.on-snow.jpg

It was both fun and amazing how much mud and water could be crossed with the LiteFoot track system.  Time after time, you could dive into the muddy water and crawl out the other side, both on the Yamaha Grizzly, and on the Arctic Cat Prowler.  There seemed to be no limit to how much water we could cross, even with the tracks fully submerged.   

We next moved to a boulder field.  Here we picked our line carefully and crawled over enormous rocks with ease.  The shape changing suspension (SCS) works well and allows the track to follow the uneven surfaces, although you want to make sure the leading edge of your tracks climb up and over rocks rather than trying to dig under.  The LiteFoot kits can handle rock crawling when needed, but they absolutely excel where traction is limited.

We found our way to the base of enormous and very steep hill climbs of the sort that worry your loved ones.  We consider any climb that gets well past the tree tops carefully, and this one was too steep to walk on and covered in loose mine tailings.  Seemingly unconcerned and with his medical coverage no doubt fully paid up, one intrepid Mattracks rep pointed his Grizzly at the heavens and stabbed at the throttle.  The LiteFoot kit clawed at the slope like a badger on meth, but the Grizzly continued to climb.  At only 40’ from the top, the rider stopped just to show us what the kit could do.  He gave us a wave, then from a dead stop he again pegged the throttle and easily crested the top.  We were impressed!

Later in the year, we were also able to test the LiteFoot kit on another Grizzly and a Yamaha Rhino in snow.  Again we were impressed with how it crossed deep snow a wheeled machine would never manage.  Rather than cutting through the snow, the tracks easily climbed up on it.  It was fun to slide the kit across bare ice and to ride the rolling drifts.   

One thing that’s very important to farmers and anyone with sensitive or wet terrain is ground pressure.  Because each track has a total ground contact surface area many times greater than any tire, ground pressure will be negligible.  Your foot will transfer more ground pressure than the LiteFoot kit will. 
Go Anywhere with Litefoot

The LiteFoot tracks provide great traction, stability, high flotation and you’ll still be moving long after a traditional set of tires has become hopelessly bogged down.  If your duck blind, work site, or cabin is far off the road and inaccessible at times, Mattracks can get you there when nobody else can. 

www.LiteFootatv.comwww.mattracks.com


You buy these treads as a kit and you change them out on your ATV just like changing your tires.  Hook them on the electric Polaris Ranger, and you are good to go all seasons over any terrain!  You'll have to call for pricing.  No doubt expensive as all hell.

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« Reply #272 on: December 08, 2018, 12:52:00 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6MlHxAzLXA

I cant help myself. I had to share. I just started my partII in the C5 gets wood, series. Its called...

C5 Gets Apocalyptic Wood From Faggots.

I'm Looking forward to seeing that title as the header at the Doomstead Diner

In it, we will bypass all this chainsaw talk. I am hoping to order a billhook in the next few days. They are all pricey and rare though. This is the only cheap version I have found
https://www.machetespecialists.com/product/imacasa-10-inch-coa-machete-blade/

Here is a teaser of some of what I will be writing about 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LizqU8OOVh0

I'm guessing you saw these already. They look like they're better, perhaps. Still within reason.

https://www.ebay.com/i/183530024518?chn=ps
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« Reply #273 on: December 08, 2018, 12:58:40 PM »
I carry a couple of cheap machetes with me when I'm cutting brush.
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« Reply #274 on: December 08, 2018, 01:17:31 PM »
In it, we will bypass all this chainsaw talk. I am hoping to order a billhook in the next few days. They are all pricey and rare though. This is the only cheap version I have found
https://www.machetespecialists.com/product/imacasa-10-inch-coa-machete-blade/

Not so rare or pricey, I found dozens of models in various sizes at various prices, that actually have the handles already on them.  Here' a 12" model:



Here's an 18" model



Send me your address in a PM.  I'll have one shipped to you as a Christmas present. 🎅

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« Reply #275 on: December 08, 2018, 01:22:04 PM »
RE is such a closet techno-cornucopian. Quit looking at all that shiny stuff. You know how you get.

No more so than you with your EV Carz, Solar Panels, Tractor, Husqvarna Gas powered chainsaws...  ::)

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Re: Machinery for a post collapse world
« Reply #276 on: December 08, 2018, 01:28:29 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6MlHxAzLXA

I cant help myself. I had to share. I just started my partII in the C5 gets wood, series. Its called...

C5 Gets Apocalyptic Wood From Faggots.

I'm Looking forward to seeing that title as the header at the Doomstead Diner

In it, we will bypass all this chainsaw talk. I am hoping to order a billhook in the next few days. They are all pricey and rare though. This is the only cheap version I have found
https://www.machetespecialists.com/product/imacasa-10-inch-coa-machete-blade/



Here is a teaser of some of what I will be writing about 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LizqU8OOVh0

I'm guessing you saw these already. They look like they're better, perhaps. Still within reason.

https://www.ebay.com/i/183530024518?chn=ps
I actually already have one of those.

I need something that works better in tight  brush (I recently did a 40 ft test plot of hedge laying to get a feel for the work load)

For anyone that does not know, a faggot is a bundle of sticks. Brits would know what faggot wood is.

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« Reply #277 on: December 08, 2018, 01:37:37 PM »
I found a nice one from Fiskars.  11" blade, high carbon steel.


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« Reply #278 on: December 08, 2018, 05:12:07 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6MlHxAzLXA

I cant help myself. I had to share. I just started my partII in the C5 gets wood, series. Its called...

C5 Gets Apocalyptic Wood From Faggots.

I'm Looking forward to seeing that title as the header at the Doomstead Diner

In it, we will bypass all this chainsaw talk. I am hoping to order a billhook in the next few days. They are all pricey and rare though. This is the only cheap version I have found
https://www.machetespecialists.com/product/imacasa-10-inch-coa-machete-blade/



Here is a teaser of some of what I will be writing about 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LizqU8OOVh0

I'm guessing you saw these already. They look like they're better, perhaps. Still within reason.

https://www.ebay.com/i/183530024518?chn=ps
I actually already have one of those.

I need something that works better in tight  brush (I recently did a 40 ft test plot of hedge laying to get a feel for the work load)

For anyone that does not know, a faggot is a bundle of sticks. Brits would know what faggot wood is.

I was just kidding about the whole faggot reference. I think it's funny, and not liable to trigger any Diners. I'm not remotely anti-gay, btw.

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« Reply #279 on: December 08, 2018, 05:33:34 PM »
I found a nice one from Fiskars.  11" blade, high carbon steel.


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I think C5 wants a long handled one. A bit harder to come by.  At least it's something a blacksmith can make pretty easily. Much easier to forge than a chainsaw.
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« Reply #280 on: December 08, 2018, 05:36:39 PM »

I think C5 wants a long handled one. A bit harder to come by.  At least it's something a blacksmith can make pretty easily. Much easier to forge than a chainsaw.

I thought he wanted a more portable one to maneuver in tighter spaces?  There are long handle models available also though.

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« Reply #281 on: December 08, 2018, 05:40:53 PM »

I think C5 wants a long handled one. A bit harder to come by.  At least it's something a blacksmith can make pretty easily. Much easier to forge than a chainsaw.

I thought he wanted a more portable one to maneuver in tighter spaces?  There are long handle models available also though.

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Here's a 14" model with a 36" handle.



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« Reply #282 on: December 08, 2018, 08:22:51 PM »
In it, we will bypass all this chainsaw talk. I am hoping to order a billhook in the next few days. They are all pricey and rare though. This is the only cheap version I have found
https://www.machetespecialists.com/product/imacasa-10-inch-coa-machete-blade/

Not so rare or pricey, I found dozens of models in various sizes at various prices, that actually have the handles already on them.  Here' a 12" model:



Here's an 18" model



Send me your address in a PM.  I'll have one shipped to you as a Christmas present. 🎅

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Thanks for thinking of me Big Guy. I'm honored. But I cant in good conscience do this to you. Like me, you would get screwed by the shipping. Its a canada issue. Stuff from the states only gets shipped to us Priority Post. You know that cheap one showed you. 15$... they wanted to charge 40$ shipping... plus there is an import duty. One of those you showed doesnt even ship to canada.

We do have the Fiskars here but it is too light and I dont trust the plastic handle. (Fiscars PowerGear loppers are awsome though. I highly recomend. The PowerGear really takes the force off the tool. I've desrtoyed several loppers but that one has held up)

It looks like I will end up getting this one localy http://www.leevalley.com/en/garden/page.aspx?p=10416&cat=2,42706,40718&ap=1 I have picked it up before and it seems a bit light for my striength. I think the extra inch on the one you showed would make all the difference.

There is a "That's what she said" joke in there.

In the end, its just for experimenting with.

It seems there is also an experimenting with faggots joke in there as well.... but I'm getting nothing.... ::)

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« Reply #283 on: December 08, 2018, 10:03:59 PM »
HERE is your post-SHTF collapse vehicle for your doomstead!


Go Anywhere. Anytime
Written By:
John Arens



vendor.2013.mattracks.litefoot.on-utv.on-snow.jpgThere are tires for sand, snow, mud, and every other type of riding condition, but when the snow gets too deep or the bog too soft, nothing can get you through a tough spot like a good set of tracks.  MATTRACKS has been building tracks for everything from tractors to ATVs since 1994 and we’ve tried their track systems on rough, rocky terrain, across a muddy swamp, up hills that would give our relatives cause to worry, and of course, on snow.  Their unique, shape changing suspension lets them crawl over uneven or rocky terrain like nothing else, and recently they’ve updated their lineup to cover even more models.   
Mattracks Manufacturing Excellence

The company that has put tracks on every continent began as a drawing and a dream by an 11 year old boy who asked his father if he could build it.  The simple rubber track conversion system quickly found acceptance with consumers, and today the company operates from a 160,000 square foot facility in the town of Karlstad, Minnesota.  Everything from engineering to manufacturing is contained in-house, and Mattracks is one of the only vehicle track producers in the world that operates their own rubber molding line.  They also have a full machining department, assembly lines, and they control the entire manufacturing process so well they even design their own tools and production machinery.  What it means is excellent quality control from start to finish.vendor.2013.mattracks.litefoot.on-atv.camo.on-snow.jpg
The Lifefoot Line

Mattracks calls their ATV and Side x Side track systems the LiteFoot Line.  The LiteFoot track system is designed to increase floatation on soft ground or snow while decreasing compaction, and one feature that works extremely well for crawling over uneven or rocky terrain is the shape changing suspension which Mattracks calls SCS. 

The LiteFoot SCS track frame is equipped with a variable rate, pivoting four-link suspension.  It allows you to adjust your track length, approach angle, and down pressure by turning an adjustment bolt.  By changing the leading approach angle of the track, you can dial it in for a flatter footprint and better flotation in snow or mud, or for better climbing over rocks or logs.  The LiteFoot system is also available with three different tread patterns with the following unique features:

M3 - The "Extra Heavy Duty" version of the utility rated M3 track system.  Rated to handle the weight and torque of even the heaviest Side x Sides, the M3 features the most aggressive tread for high flotation and traction in soft terrain.

    Heavy Duty 4 link, quad spring internal suspension
    13" wide track
    3/4" paddle style
    4200 G.V.W.R. [1905 kg]

XL - Designed exclusively for ATVs.  The LiteFoot XL is the economical alternative to Mattracks’ best riding track system. The LiteFoot XL tracks retain Mattracks’ superior quality, legendary performance and great features.

    11" wide track
    1" tread lug
    1500 G.V.W.R. [680 kg]

XT - The "Extra Heavy Duty" version of the utility rated XT track system is built for Side x Sides but offers a less aggressive tread pattern and great traction on most terrain.  Shorter lugs with wide surface area also allow for easier ride on hard terrain.

    Heavy Duty 4 link, quad spring internal suspension
    11" wide track
    1" versatile all-terrain treads
    4200 G.V.W.R. [1905 kg]

MATTRACKS realized that some trailers need tracks too and the Trail-R-Mate XT is designed to let the trailer float across any terrain as easily as the tow vehicle.  vendor.2013.mattracks.litefoot.on-side-x-side.on-snow.jpg

    11" wide track
    Tread lug choices
    1200 G.V.W.R. [545 kg]

The one piece tracks have internal belting, composite reinforcement, and are made from a specially formulated rubber compound designed to operate over many types of terrain.  Track systems designed for Side x Sides are rated for the higher overall vehicle weight as well.
Installation

Installing the LiteFoot track system is not unlike changing the tires, although it will take you a little longer.  Each track drives off the ATV or Side x Side wheel hub, but there are a few brackets you will need to install to keep the tracks from going around like a wheel.  Each set comes preassembled, and about all you need to do is jack up your ATV or Side x Side and start bolting it on.  If you would rather just pick it up and drive into the woods, your local dealer will be glad to install them for you.  MATTRACKS did make another major engineering breakthrough this year with the creation of their Sprositive Drive system for ATVs and Side x Sides.   
Spositive Drive

Because of the front differentials on ATVs and UTVs, the front wheels sometimes turn at different rates which can affect traction and handling.  To compensate for this, the Sprositive Drive System has been specially designed to eliminate the gear-like backlash.  By eliminating the slack in the front sprockets pitch and changing the pitch ratio in the rear, the Sprositive Drive allows the machine to stay locked in 4WD and helps keep all tracks pulling at the same speed. The Sprositive Drive options are available for Polaris, John Deere, Club Car, Bobcat, Case IH, New Holland and?Cub Cadet UTVs and even some Polaris ATVs. vendor.2013.mattracks.litefoot.on-atv.over-rocks.jpg
All Terran Tested

Everybody likes the looks of an ATV or Side x Side with the LiteFoot system installed.  It’s like having your own personal tank or ‘dozer and the vehicle sits much higher; you get MUCH more ground clearance.  It’s manly!  Width is also greatly increased as well, but because of the wider and longer footprint, it feels very stable.  We tried the kit on several different machines in mud, on snow, up very steep hills, across boulders, and on sand. 

The first riding area we tried was deep in Minnesota mining territory with trails that would up, down, and around HUGE piles of iron ore mine tailings.  We hopped aboard the Yamaha Grizzly and quickly found the tracks don’t take much power to turn, but they effectively change the gear ratio since the drive “wheels” on each track are a different size than the ATV tire.  That means a little less top speed, and you operate a little higher in the RPM range.  Mattracks recommends you don’t install the kit on ATVs under 400cc though.  The biggest difference between the wheels and the track system is found in steering.  The tracks can’t turn as far as a tire can, and winding through very tight trees is not going to happen.  Instead you’ll use reverse and make a few 3 point turns, and it will take a little more arm muscle.  One Grizzly was equipped with Electronic Power Steering and the required steering effort was about the same as with mud tires.  Where the tracks really shine, however, is where regular tires can never go.  vendor.2013.mattracks.litefoot.on-atv.on-snow.jpg

It was both fun and amazing how much mud and water could be crossed with the LiteFoot track system.  Time after time, you could dive into the muddy water and crawl out the other side, both on the Yamaha Grizzly, and on the Arctic Cat Prowler.  There seemed to be no limit to how much water we could cross, even with the tracks fully submerged.   

We next moved to a boulder field.  Here we picked our line carefully and crawled over enormous rocks with ease.  The shape changing suspension (SCS) works well and allows the track to follow the uneven surfaces, although you want to make sure the leading edge of your tracks climb up and over rocks rather than trying to dig under.  The LiteFoot kits can handle rock crawling when needed, but they absolutely excel where traction is limited.

We found our way to the base of enormous and very steep hill climbs of the sort that worry your loved ones.  We consider any climb that gets well past the tree tops carefully, and this one was too steep to walk on and covered in loose mine tailings.  Seemingly unconcerned and with his medical coverage no doubt fully paid up, one intrepid Mattracks rep pointed his Grizzly at the heavens and stabbed at the throttle.  The LiteFoot kit clawed at the slope like a badger on meth, but the Grizzly continued to climb.  At only 40’ from the top, the rider stopped just to show us what the kit could do.  He gave us a wave, then from a dead stop he again pegged the throttle and easily crested the top.  We were impressed!

Later in the year, we were also able to test the LiteFoot kit on another Grizzly and a Yamaha Rhino in snow.  Again we were impressed with how it crossed deep snow a wheeled machine would never manage.  Rather than cutting through the snow, the tracks easily climbed up on it.  It was fun to slide the kit across bare ice and to ride the rolling drifts.   

One thing that’s very important to farmers and anyone with sensitive or wet terrain is ground pressure.  Because each track has a total ground contact surface area many times greater than any tire, ground pressure will be negligible.  Your foot will transfer more ground pressure than the LiteFoot kit will. 
Go Anywhere with Litefoot

The LiteFoot tracks provide great traction, stability, high flotation and you’ll still be moving long after a traditional set of tires has become hopelessly bogged down.  If your duck blind, work site, or cabin is far off the road and inaccessible at times, Mattracks can get you there when nobody else can. 

www.LiteFootatv.comwww.mattracks.com


You buy these treads as a kit and you change them out on your ATV just like changing your tires.  Hook them on the electric Polaris Ranger, and you are good to go all seasons over any terrain!  You'll have to call for pricing.  No doubt expensive as all hell.

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I'm looking at a used set of tracks for my ATV. They are complex and prone to problems but when they work you feel like an all terrain god. Really pricey. A used set is 1500 over 3000 new...too much spent on toys this year probably. I'm not a fan of the utvs I find them too heavy to push out if tou get stuck and they don't float over snow as well as the atvs
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Re: Machinery for a post collapse world
« Reply #284 on: December 08, 2018, 10:06:22 PM »
Thanks for thinking of me Big Guy. I'm honored. But I cant in good conscience do this to you. Like me, you would get screwed by the shipping. Its a canada issue. Stuff from the states only gets shipped to us Priority Post. You know that cheap one showed you. 15$... they wanted to charge 40$ shipping... plus there is an import duty. One of those you showed doesnt even ship to canada.
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No, I joined Amazon Prime for that very reason.  I get free shipping.  :icon_sunny:

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