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« Reply #45 on: June 03, 2017, 03:54:35 PM »
“shower of nuclear strike” is presumably code for overwhelming defences with numbers. Each incoming missile will get 4 interceptors, each with a 50% chance of a hit, so (1/2)4 = 93.75% at least one hit, 6.25% all miss. Do that enough times and one is sure to get thru, or they run out of interceptors.

https://www.rt.com/news/390725-us-missile-interceptor-north-korea/
US missile interceptor system won’t stop N. Korean ‘shower of nuclear strike’ – KCNA
3 Jun, 2017

Undated photo of a ballistic rocket test launch released by North Korea's Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) May 30, 2017 © Reuters
Pyongyang condemned the successful US ballistic missile interceptor test from earlier this week as a “risky move” which “will only bring earlier the day when the US mainland will turn into ashes.”

A spokesman for the Strategic Force of the Korean People’s Army told KCNA state news agency that the US ballistic missile interceptor test conducted on Tuesday “is just a serious military provocation that brings to light the US imperialists’ wild ambition for igniting a nuclear war.”

He called the interceptor test a “risky act” that indicates US “preparations for unleashing a nuclear war against” North Korea. Such “foolhardy moves” of the US military only prove that North Korea’s “bolstering the nuclear force for self-defense is entirely just,” according to the spokesman.

The US military, however, did not call the target of the test an “an ICBM from North Korea” or even imply it. An unnamed Pentagon official told Stars and Stripes that the test was planned “years in advance” and was not a direct response to recent North Korean ballistic missile tests.

The test was hailed by the Pentagon as an “incredible accomplishment” representing a “critical milestone” for the anti-missile program.

“This test demonstrates that we have a capable, credible deterrent against a very real threat,” US Missile Defense Agency chief Vice Admiral James D. Syring said in a statement.

North Korea, however, dismissed the results of the test as a “bluff,” as the ICMB interception system, according to the spokesman, would not prevent the “shower of nuclear strike” from North Korea.

“They are now bluffing, bragging about the ‘success’ in the test and the efficiency of the missile interception system. But the DPRK considers it just as a foolish act of those driven to despair,” the spokesman said. “The last-ditch gambling of the Trump administration for a nuclear war will only bring earlier the day when the US mainland will turn into ashes.”

The ability of Pyongyang to “hit US mainland” at the moment is doubtful, as all of the recently tested ballistic missiles have been short to medium range. The latest missile, launched on May 28, flew 450 kilometers before landing in the Sea of Japan, about 300km off the Japanese coast. In May, Pyongyang announced that it had successfully tested the Pukguksong-2 intermediate range ballistic missile as a projectile was detected landing in international waters off Japan’s east coast.

North Korea, poses a “clear and present danger” to the US, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said on Friday, stressing that Pyongyang actions “are manifestly illegal under international law,” as they violate UN Security Council resolutions.

“The current North Korean program signals a clear intent to acquire nuclear-armed ballistic missiles, including those of intercontinental range, that pose direct and immediate threats to our regional allies, partners and all the world,” Mattis said.
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Re: The Korean thread
« Reply #46 on: June 03, 2017, 04:45:01 PM »
“shower of nuclear strike” is presumably code for overwhelming defences with numbers. Each incoming missile will get 4 interceptors, each with a 50% chance of a hit, so (1/2)4 = 93.75% at least one hit, 6.25% all miss. Do that enough times and one is sure to get thru, or they run out of interceptors.

One doubts the NKs would have more than one opportunity to fire off ICBMs at the FSoA.  As soon as the missile launch is detected, the FSoA will fire off enough ICBMs with MIRVs to vaporize the entire Korean peninsula.

For the 1st strike from the Koreans, say they fire off 100 ICBMs.  By your own calculations, maybe 6-10 of them aren't intercepted.  These aren't Hydrogen Bombs either, they're conventional Fission bombs like the ones dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.  Then you got the issue of how good their targeting is.  If they can put one in the middle of downtown Los Angeles they can kill a decent number of people, but if the targeting is off by just a few miles, the sucker is going to just blow up some desert or maybe a Golf Course.

The threat of a Ballistic Missile attack on the FSoA by the NKs is ludicrous.  If I was Kim, I would focus more on getting cruise missiles aboard his submarines as a better delivery system.  Plus as I said before, pack a Dirty Bomb into a ConEx and ship it over here.  You KNOW that one will make it into the Port of Long Beach.

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Re: The Korean thread
« Reply #47 on: June 07, 2017, 08:48:48 PM »
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/06/07/in-nod-to-china-south-korea-halts-deployment-of-thaad-missile-defense/
In Nod to China, South Korea Halts Deployment of THAAD Missile Defense
Paul McLeary
June 7, 2017

North Korea fired four anti-ship cruise missiles into the waters between Korea and Japan on Thursday morning, just a day after the new president of South Korea put the brakes on an upcoming deployment of four American missile defense systems to his country.

The administration of new president Moon Jae-in, a left-leaning politician who favors rapprochement with North Korea, suspended the deployment of the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense systems (THAAD), in what has emerged as a contentious domestic fight over how Seoul juggles its relations with China, North Korea, and the United States.

The move appears in part to be a concession to Chinese objections to the deployment. It is also in direct defiance of the American policy to confront North Korea’s growing ballistic and mid-range missile programs.

South Korean military officials said they believe the surface-to-ship missiles flew about 125 miles after being launched near Wonsan on North Korea’s East coast, and come less than a week after the United Nations Security Council passed a new resolution widening existing sanctions against Pyongyang as punishment for its continued missile tests.

Moon in some ways is inheriting a political headache from his disgraced predecessor, who greenlighted the deployment of the defense systems before being impeached and removed from office in early March, just as the first two THAAD systems were being installed on a golf course.

Moon, who campaigned on the promise of opening a new era of engagement with North Korea, complained that the THAAD deployment was rushed through, giving his government no chance to take part in the decision making process. Still, he agreed that the two systems that had already arrived would stay, but wanted to pause further deployments.

Seoul needs to “learn to say no” to Washington, Moon has said. But he has also acknowledged that he has to bring Washington along if he is to open talks with North Korea.

“THAAD is a bargaining chip for President Moon,” said Patrick M. Cronin, senior director of the Asia-Pacific Security Program at the Center for a New American Security. “His political base likes taking a Korea First stance on a military system rushed into deployment by the main opposition party of the previous government.”

Moon and his new government reacted angrily when they discovered they had not been informed about the upcoming arrival of four more interceptors, and ordered an environmental assessment before they arrive.

“My order for a probe on THAAD is purely a domestic measure and I want to be clear that it is not about trying to change the existing decision or sending a message to the United States,” Moon told visiting U.S. Senator Dick Durbin in Seoul last week.

There is little indication that the new government is looking to significantly restructure relations with the United States, which is a major trading partner, maintains 23,000 troops in the country, and sells billions of dollars worth of advanced military technology to Seoul. 

Still, the halt on the THAAD deployment can be seen as a new wrinkle in an old relationship, and a significant win for Beijing, which has strongly objected to the radar and missile interceptor system being deployed on the peninsula.

China is South Korea’s biggest trading partner, accounting for about a quarter of its exports, and has sought to make the THAAD deployment sting. Citing health and safety issues, China shut down 87 of 99 of South Korean conglomerate Lotte’s department stores in China in the days after THAAD arrived in South Korea, and stopped work on South Korean-funded theme park.

In order to ease tensions, just days after his election Moon sent an envoy to Beijing to meet with Chinese president Xi Jinping. Upon his return, China stopped blocking Lotte’s web site, and walked back some other economic pressures.

A spokesperson for the Chinese Foreign Ministry reiterated Beijing’s opposition to the missile-defense system, which China fears could be used to neuter its own strategic missile forces.

“China’s stance of opposing the THAAD deployment by the U.S. in [South Korea] is clear, consistent and firm,” the spokesperson said.

Moon also recently sent his top national security advisor, Chung Eui-yong, to Washington to meet with U.S. National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster to discuss the threat from North Korean missiles.
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Re: The Korean thread
« Reply #48 on: June 11, 2017, 02:33:44 PM »
https://www.rt.com/news/391865-north-korea-icbm-test/
N. Korea’s ICBM test launch ‘not far away,’ will tackle ‘hostile policy’ of US – state media
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N. Korea’s ICBM test launch ‘not far away,’ will tackle ‘hostile policy’ of US – state media
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N. Korea hinted it may test-fire an ICBM in the near future, state media says, adding that the missile will help Pyongyang tackle the US’ “hostile policy,” as Washington never “dared to go to war with a country that possesses nuclear weapons or ICBMs.”

“The series of recent strategic weapons tests show that we are not too far away from test-firing an intercontinental ballistic missile,” North Korean Rodong Sinmun official newspaper said, according to South Korean media.

According to the Pyongyang paper, the great success of test-firing an ICBM (intercontinental ballistic missile) “will mark a historic watershed moment in the failure of the US hostile policy.”
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© Jung Yeon-Je Pyongyang’s short-range ballistic missile flies 450 km, lands in Sea of Japan

“Historically speaking, the US has never dared to go to war with a country that possesses nuclear weapons or ICBMs,” it added.

The US also forecasts that Pyongyang may test-fire the missile in 2017. “They made further progress in their ability to develop re-entry vehicles in their last test... The pace of the threat is advancing faster than I think was considered when we did the first ballistic missile defense review back in 2010,” Robert Soofer from Defense for Nuclear and Missile Defense Policy told Japanese-language Kyodo News, as cited by Yonhap.

Tensions are running extremely high on the Korean Peninsula. In late May, North Korea launched a short-range ballistic missile which landed in the Sea of Japan, about 300km off the Japanese coast.

Also in May, Pyongyang said that it had successfully tested the Pukguksong-2 intermediate range ballistic missile after a projectile was detected landing in international waters off Japan’s east coast. North Korean leader Kim Jong-un personally supervised the test of the new missile.

READ MORE: N. Korea declares latest ballistic missile launch a success

The same month, North Korea claimed it had successfully tested a Hwasong-12 intermediate-range ballistic missile.

“Of all the missiles that North Korea has fired until now, Hwasong-12 is the closest one to the ICBM,” Yang Uk said, as cited by Seoul-based Korean Herald newspaper. “As long as the North can find a way to better use its technology for stage separation, it can fire an ICBM-level missile.”

    US tests #ICBM interceptor missile amid rising tensions with #NorthKoreahttps://t.co/ktFFvSJN2spic.twitter.com/Dmxpxa8TZd
    — RT (@RT_com) May 31, 2017

Recently, the US said it tested an ICBM interceptor missile. A Ground-based Midcourse Defense (GMD) interceptor was fired from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California, while the target vehicle, designed to resemble an ICBM, took off from Kwajalein Atoll in the Marshall Islands. The intercept took place high above the Pacific Ocean, the agency said.
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