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Re: Return of the Flat-Earthers
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2017, 04:42:24 AM »

I just finished reading Joseph Campbell's "The Hero With A Thousand Faces."  It's been on my reading list for years.  It's definitely not an easy read.  Campbell was much easier to understand when he talked then when he wrote.  At times I felt stupid reading the book.  When you have to look up like 5 words per page for nearly 400 pages you start feeling stupid.  Of course I didn't do that.  I'd look up a few words here and there, then get tired of looking up words and then just gleamed as much meaning as I could with my current vocabulary.  I need to read it again.  In my defense, mythology is a very complicated study.  I think a lot of the complication was due to the archaic words that Campbell used, but that's mostly probably because it's an archaic study.  For instance, how many of you know the definition for words such as august (not the month) or sooth (as a noun)?  I had to look them both up.  Check out the last paragraph of the book:

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The modern hero, the modern individual who dares to heed the call and seek the mansion of that presence with whom it is our whole destiny to be atoned, cannot, indeed must not, wait for his community to cast off its slough of pride, fear, rationalized avarice, and sanctified misunderstanding.  "Live," Nietzsche says, "as though the day were here."  It is not society that is to guide and save the creative hero, but precisely the reverse.  And so every one of us shares the supreme ordeal-carries the cross of the redeemer-not in the bright moments of his tribe's great victories, but in the silences of his personal despair.

I find this to be some what depressing.  I'm not sure Campbell would argue otherwise either.  All of the myths of the past no longer apply.  They are obsolete.  They have been replaced by google and Dump.  Talk about despair.

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Joseph Campbell is a personal favorite and guide star for me. I first encountered him in a public TV series that Bill Moyers produced with him, a series of interviews.

You should not feel bad about having to stop and look up unfamiliar words. One of the great intellectual journeys of my life was reading W. H. Prescott's magisterial The History of the Conquest of Mexico and A History of the Conquest of Peru, which is an exhaustive, carefully researched work with a driving narrative that tells the story of the Spanish conquest of the Americas. Prescott made extensive use of Spanish archives and cited them at extensive length (did I say EXTENSIVE length?) in the original Spanish, that made my college Spanish as useless as Trump's reported light-switch-size dick, so I had to resort to a Spanish-English dictionary. This was in 1981-82, so it was definitely pre-Internet, and it took me the better part of a year, but was well worth it.

In terms of mythology, Campbell was much influenced by Jung. IN fact it was campbell that led me to Jung. There is a quote, which I can't find, attributed to Jung. When asked what happened to the ancient Greek gods, he is said to have replied, "They've come down from Olympus and taken up residence in the human heart."
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Re: Return of the Flat-Earthers
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2017, 07:37:03 AM »

I just finished reading Joseph Campbell's "The Hero With A Thousand Faces."  It's been on my reading list for years.  It's definitely not an easy read.  Campbell was much easier to understand when he talked then when he wrote.  At times I felt stupid reading the book.  When you have to look up like 5 words per page for nearly 400 pages you start feeling stupid.  Of course I didn't do that.  I'd look up a few words here and there, then get tired of looking up words and then just gleamed as much meaning as I could with my current vocabulary.  I need to read it again.  In my defense, mythology is a very complicated study.  I think a lot of the complication was due to the archaic words that Campbell used, but that's mostly probably because it's an archaic study.  For instance, how many of you know the definition for words such as august (not the month) or sooth (as a noun)?  I had to look them both up.  Check out the last paragraph of the book:

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The modern hero, the modern individual who dares to heed the call and seek the mansion of that presence with whom it is our whole destiny to be atoned, cannot, indeed must not, wait for his community to cast off its slough of pride, fear, rationalized avarice, and sanctified misunderstanding.  "Live," Nietzsche says, "as though the day were here."  It is not society that is to guide and save the creative hero, but precisely the reverse.  And so every one of us shares the supreme ordeal-carries the cross of the redeemer-not in the bright moments of his tribe's great victories, but in the silences of his personal despair.

I find this to be some what depressing.  I'm not sure Campbell would argue otherwise either.  All of the myths of the past no longer apply.  They are obsolete.  They have been replaced by google and Dump.  Talk about despair.

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Joseph Campbell is a personal favorite and guide star for me. I first encountered him in a public TV series that Bill Moyers produced with him, a series of interviews.

You should not feel bad about having to stop and look up unfamiliar words. One of the great intellectual journeys of my life was reading W. H. Prescott's magisterial The History of the Conquest of Mexico and A History of the Conquest of Peru, which is an exhaustive, carefully researched work with a driving narrative that tells the story of the Spanish conquest of the Americas. Prescott made extensive use of Spanish archives and cited them at extensive length (did I say EXTENSIVE length?) in the original Spanish, that made my college Spanish as useless as Trump's reported light-switch-size dick, so I had to resort to a Spanish-English dictionary. This was in 1981-82, so it was definitely pre-Internet, and it took me the better part of a year, but was well worth it.

In terms of mythology, Campbell was much influenced by Jung. IN fact it was campbell that led me to Jung. There is a quote, which I can't find, attributed to Jung. When asked what happened to the ancient Greek gods, he is said to have replied, "They've come down from Olympus and taken up residence in the human heart."

I just read that quote of Jung's.  Campbell quotes it in The Hero With A Thousand Faces.

Jung has had a huge impact on me as well.  Probably the most influence with respect to psychology. 

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Re: Things That Make Me Say, "Well, I'll be damned..."
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2017, 01:19:19 PM »
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RE: The Ruskies have all the STANS on their southern border, they will have a few billion people trying to migrate north on foot.

Um, they don't actually, they only have Kazakhstan. The next nearest stan (Uzbekistan) is 600 Km away across barren dessert. All the stans (total population about 60 million) used to be part of the Soviet Union, received all the benefits of free health services and free education, and were allowed to practice their religion (islam) freely.  This cost Russia to provide, which was why it had to stop. They were allowed to secede in 1991 and join the CSU, which they all did. They are now all members of SCO and part of China's OBOR, AIIB, and so on. Since they traded egalitarian leadership for tribal warlords, the people got a bad deal out of it, and would willingly join the Russian/Chinese Empire if it was on offer.

You can carry enough water to cross that desert on foot.  It's a land based transit route for everyone from India & Pakistan to all of Africa.  No boats necessary, just a good camel or at least a good pair of feet.

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Granted, not all those Billions of people are Shaolin Priests like Kwai Chang Cain, but if even only 10% of the 3B Climate Refugees from the south can make the trek, that's 300M right there.  Plus, I'm sure they'll be on Buses before they get down to Camels.

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This brings up an excellent point.
Why did Moses & the Israelite's take 40 years to travel from Mecca to Jerusalem.
6 months walking or 4 months by camel.
After a year or so, why didn't someone say "Hey Mo" lemme' see the map....
The route should have been a gimme' with the watering holes already established.
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You donít know what it is but its there, like a splinter in your mind

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Re: Things That Make Me Say, "Well, I'll be damned..."
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2017, 01:56:34 PM »

This brings up an excellent point.
Why did Moses & the Israelite's take 40 years to travel from Mecca to Jerusalem.
6 months walking or 4 months by camel.
After a year or so, why didn't someone say "Hey Mo" lemme' see the map....
The route should have been a gimme' with the watering holes already established.

Simple: the people who left Egypt were freed slaves;
the people who entered the "promised land" needed to be warriors,
because said land was already occupied.

The  process of transformation required two generations to accomplish.
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Re: Things That Make Me Say, "Well, I'll be damned..."
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2017, 02:25:50 PM »
Thanks JD....
Where does this reference material show up in ancient text ?
I would like to check into this.
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Re: Things That Make Me Say, "Well, I'll be damned..."
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2017, 03:02:00 PM »
Thanks JD....
Where does this reference material show up in ancient text ?
I would like to check into this.
Deuteronomy 31 https://www.bible.com/bible/12/DEU.31.asv is a good place to start for the purpose of the exile...
The Book of Joshua https://www.bible.com/bible/1/JOS.1.ASV is an good recounting of the conquest of the Promised Land.

20 years is just a standard approximation for 1 generation; but then again, the number "40" is not to be taken as a definite number in ancient Hebrew either, it is more closely translated as "dozens".
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Report details the moment Trump turned on Manafort
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2017, 03:59:34 AM »
ĎAm I a f*cking baby?í: Report details the moment Trump turned on ex-campaign chairman Paul Manafort


17 JUL 2017 AT 19:26 ET                   
 

 

According to Devil’s Bargain: Steve Bannon, Donald Trump and the Storming of the Presidency, by Bloomberg’s Joshua Green, Trump grew irate over an article published on Aug. 13, 2016, and confronted Manafort about the report’s contents.

“How can anybody allow an article that says your campaign is all f*cked up?” Trump demanded of Manafort.

The article, titled “Inside the Failing Mission to Tame Donald Trump’s Tongue,” described an irate and volatile candidate whom aides were afraid to approach in person.

“You think you’ve gotta go on TV to talk to me?” Trump reportedly asked Manafrot, “You treat me like a baby!”

“Am I like a baby to you?” he continued. “I sit there like a little baby and watch TV and you talk to me? Am I a f*cking baby, Paul?”

The following day, an article detailing Manafort’s $12.7 million payout from a pro-Russian party in the Ukraine dropped. Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, reportedly approached Manafort and demanded his resignation.

‘”I can’t do that,” Manafort told Kushner, insisting if he resigned it would make him look guilty.

“At this Kushner’s demeanour hardened and he glanced at his watch,” Green writes in Devil’s Bargain.

Devil’s Bargain also details the moment Trump soured on New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie. Reportedly, on election night, Christie sat down next to Trump as it dawned on the candidate that he was going to win—even as others in the room avoided congratulating the businessman.

Trump reportedly “flashed a look of annoyance, clearly resenting the intrusion,” as Christie informed him President Barack Obama would not be calling him directly.

“Hey Donald. The President talked to me earlier,” Christie told Trump, referring to Obama. “If you win he’s going to call my phone, and I’ll pass it over to you.”

“Hey Chris, you know my f*cking phone number,” Trump—a noted germaphobe—reportedly said. “Just give it to the President. I don’t want your f*cking phone.”

 


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Re: Things That Make Me Say, "Well, I'll be damned..."
« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2017, 01:28:09 PM »
Don't answer that email from the Nigerian Prince...

Tennis Legend Boris Becker Bankrupt, Burns Ä100MM Fortune With Help of "Nigerian Investments"

Tennis Legend Boris Becker Bankrupt, Burns €100MM Fortune With Help of "Nigerian Investments"

 
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Boris Becker was a legend on the tennis court, unfortunatly when it comes to investing, he appears to have shared an advisor with Johnny Depp.

According to claims in the German media, Boris Becker may have lost his roughly €100 million fortune in part because of questionable investments in the Nigerian oil industry. Ever since the 49-year-old former tennis star was declared bankrupt in a London court last month, there has been rampant speculation over how he managed to squander a personal fortune estimated at roughly €100 million.

Now, according to Germany’s Spiegel, Becker’s business dealings went far deeper than celebrity endorsements and media appearances. The magazine claims he made investments in the Nigerian oil and gas industry, and at one point considered a single investment of more than $10m (£7.6m).

 

It also alleges he had extensive links outside the world of tennis that ranged from African leaders to Laxmi Mittal, the Indian steel billionaire, and was seen as some one who could facilitate business deals.

The claims centre on documents Spiegel says it was shown by Football Leaks, a whistleblowing website. They documents include alleged internal emails from Doyen Global, a sports management agency which represented Becker for a brief period starting in late 2013, which reportedly show that Becker Private Office, a company controlled by Becker, held extensive shares in the Nigerian oil and gas business, Spiegel claims.

The magazine claims it has seen details of a single investment of “more than $10m” in Nigerian oil prepared for Becker by Forbes & Manhattan, a Canadian investment bank and a former associate of the tennis player. It notes that it was not clear whether Becker went through with the investment, or whether it was successful, although judging by his recent bankruptcy, the odds are not good.

As the Telegraph adds, Becker’s association with Doyen was publicly presented as an opportunity for the company to expand its operations in the world of tennis. But the allegedly email leaks note that he had met recently with Mittal and John Mahama, the Ghanaian president at the time, and describe him as “some one who can open doors for us in certain circles”.

Meanwhile, during bankruptcy proceedings in London last month, John Briggs, Becker’s laywer, told the court: “He is not a sophisticated individual when it comes to finances.” His bank account seems to agree.

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Re: Things That Make Me Say, "Well, I'll be damned..."
« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2017, 02:18:30 PM »
WTF

Why does someone with hundreds of millions of dollars buy into risky investments?  Enough money to gas up a van and travel for a thousand years in style but still people think they need more.  It is pathetic.  Earth may be the comedy club of the universe with aliens tuning into our doings for amusement like a cosmic Big Brother reality TV series.  If so our ratings must be through the roof.
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More from the Party of family Values.

Kentucky Republican Party Chair Tasered After Exposing Himself To Man In Department Store Bathroom
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The Kentucky Republican Party County Chair was arrested for indecent exposure after an incident in a public bathroom in a department store over the weekend.

According to WJHL, David Narramore, 54 of Whitesburg, Kentucky was in a public bathroom stall when he allegedly began rubbing his foot against the man in the stall next to him.

According to the complaint by the person who handles loss prevention for the Belk department store in Kingsport, Tennessee. Narramore then allegedly exposed himself to the man.

The loss prevention staffer escorted the man to his office and contacted police. Narramore claimed that it was the employee that touched his foot.

Officers attempted to arrest Narramore but he resisted and a struggle ensued. Narramore refused to put his hands behind his back and once he began moving toward officers they deployed a Taser.

The incident report says that the officers didnít see the Taser having an impact and Narramore was wrestled to the ground. He then complained of chest pains and was examined by EMS crews before being taken to the Kingsport City Jail.

Itís been ten years since Sen. Larry Craig (R-ID) was caught in a Minnesota airport bathroom by an undercover officer. Craig was accused of attempting to pick up the officer in the bathroom. His excuse was that he simply has a ďwide stanceĒ when using the bathroom. He was later forced to resign in disgrace.

No word yet on how this incident in the menís room makes America great again.
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Re: Things That Make Me Say, "Dafuq?"
« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2017, 08:58:38 AM »
Republicans: Keeping America's Dirty Secrets in the Closet Since 1854.
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Re: Things That Make Me Say, "Dafuq?"
« Reply #26 on: July 21, 2017, 11:36:31 AM »


From the city of St. Louis FB page:

Ongoing situation: Someone at an undisclosed location managed to land what appears to be a GMC Envoy on a roof. This is St. Louis, not Lincoln County. We will give the driver a C for effort either way.

We would like to thank our intelligence organization for the photo.
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Fuck Wells Fargo!
« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2017, 08:32:52 PM »
Say it with us: Fuck Wells Fargo.
Remember when they repossessed Norman Rousseau's home and drove him to suicide? (See Mammon is Hungry.)During Occupy we demonstrated outside Wells Fargo offices, and the battle cry was "Fuck Wells Fargo!"

Remember when they reached a $110 million preliminary settlement to compensate customers who claimed Wells opened fake accounts and other products in their name in a class action settlement. Wells Fargo employees under management direction and quotas opened up to 2 million fake accounts to meet unrealistic sales targets that have since been eliminated.

Fuckers.

Wells Fargo to shut down 450 branches

Wells Fargo has long been known among analysts and commentators as one of the nation's most efficient banks. As a result, when its efficiency started to slip recently, the bank responded by announcing an initiative to cut annual expenses by $2 billion by the end of 2019.

Part of that initiative is to prune its branch network. At the end of the second quarter, Wells Fargo operated the largest branch network in the United States, with 5,977 locations. That's meaningfully more than the bank with the second highest number of branches, JPMorgan Chase, with 5,217 locations.

BRANCH COUNT

Wells Fargo 5,977

JPMorgan Chase. 5,217

Bank of America  4,559

U.S. Bancorp. 3,091

PNC Financial. 2,481

Wells Fargo is already making progress on this goal. During the first six months of this year, it closed 93 branches, including 54 in the second quarter. It's now on track to close a total of 200 branches this year. And it plans to close an additional 250 branches in 2018.

But shareholders shouldn't expect savings to fall immediately to Wells Fargo's bottom line. As CEO Timothy Sloan noted on the bank's second-quarter conference call: "There are minimal immediate savings recognized from branch closures due to the initial closing costs. So therefore most of the expense benefit from the 200 branches we close this year will not be realized until next year."

Wells Fargo isn't alone in its decision to prune its branch network. Bank of America has been shuttering branches for years, as has JPMorgan Chase.

As online and mobile banking have taken flight, it's much more efficient for banks to serve customers through digital channels. JPMorgan Chase has said in the past that it costs $0.65 to handle a deposit transaction in a branch, $0.08 per ATM transaction, and just $0.03 per mobile deposit.

It's for this reason that Wells Fargo has placed an emphasis on growing its digital distribution channels. As of the end of the second quarter, in fact, the California-based bank has more active digital users than it does primary checking accounts, with 27.9 million digital active customers versus 23.6 million primary consumer checking customers.

The takeaway for investors is this: Closing bank branches shouldn't be analogized to retail companies shuttering stores. It's instead a necessary and welcome trend that, far from signaling a bank's demise, is a necessary tactic for ensuring long-term survival.
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Re: Fuck Wells Fargo!
« Reply #28 on: July 23, 2017, 01:31:13 PM »
Say it with us: Fuck Wells Fargo.
Remember when they repossessed Norman Rousseau's home and drove him to suicide? (See Mammon is Hungry.)During Occupy we demonstrated outside Wells Fargo offices, and the battle cry was "Fuck Wells Fargo!"

Remember when they reached a $110 million preliminary settlement to compensate customers who claimed Wells opened fake accounts and other products in their name in a class action settlement. Wells Fargo employees under management direction and quotas opened up to 2 million fake accounts to meet unrealistic sales targets that have since been eliminated.

Fuckers.

Wells Fargo to shut down 450 branches

Wells Fargo has long been known among analysts and commentators as one of the nation's most efficient banks. As a result, when its efficiency started to slip recently, the bank responded by announcing an initiative to cut annual expenses by $2 billion by the end of 2019.

Part of that initiative is to prune its branch network. At the end of the second quarter, Wells Fargo operated the largest branch network in the United States, with 5,977 locations. That's meaningfully more than the bank with the second highest number of branches, JPMorgan Chase, with 5,217 locations.

BRANCH COUNT

Wells Fargo 5,977

JPMorgan Chase. 5,217

Bank of America  4,559

U.S. Bancorp. 3,091

PNC Financial. 2,481

Wells Fargo is already making progress on this goal. During the first six months of this year, it closed 93 branches, including 54 in the second quarter. It's now on track to close a total of 200 branches this year. And it plans to close an additional 250 branches in 2018.

But shareholders shouldn't expect savings to fall immediately to Wells Fargo's bottom line. As CEO Timothy Sloan noted on the bank's second-quarter conference call: "There are minimal immediate savings recognized from branch closures due to the initial closing costs. So therefore most of the expense benefit from the 200 branches we close this year will not be realized until next year."

Wells Fargo isn't alone in its decision to prune its branch network. Bank of America has been shuttering branches for years, as has JPMorgan Chase.

As online and mobile banking have taken flight, it's much more efficient for banks to serve customers through digital channels. JPMorgan Chase has said in the past that it costs $0.65 to handle a deposit transaction in a branch, $0.08 per ATM transaction, and just $0.03 per mobile deposit.

It's for this reason that Wells Fargo has placed an emphasis on growing its digital distribution channels. As of the end of the second quarter, in fact, the California-based bank has more active digital users than it does primary checking accounts, with 27.9 million digital active customers versus 23.6 million primary consumer checking customers.

The takeaway for investors is this: Closing bank branches shouldn't be analogized to retail companies shuttering stores. It's instead a necessary and welcome trend that, far from signaling a bank's demise, is a necessary tactic for ensuring long-term survival.

I'm with you shoulder to shoulder on this one Surly. Cocksuckers, every last one of them .....

Sidenote: My little beach bunny friend from San Diego has to testify in court against these fucking pirates in about a week.
She didn't elaborate the details, however she did say it was something to do with her fathers estate & inheritance.
I hope she blows these losers up & the court finds in her favor.
I know exactly what you mean. Let me tell you why youíre here. Youíre here because you know something. What you know you canít explain, but you feel it. Youíve felt it your entire life, that thereís something wrong with the world.
You donít know what it is but its there, like a splinter in your mind

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Re: Fuck Wells Fargo!
« Reply #29 on: July 24, 2017, 02:20:44 AM »
Say it with us: Fuck Wells Fargo.
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I'm with you shoulder to shoulder on this one Surly. Cocksuckers, every last one of them .....

Sidenote: My little beach bunny friend from San Diego has to testify in court against these fucking pirates in about a week.
She didn't elaborate the details, however she did say it was something to do with her fathers estate & inheritance.
I hope she blows these losers up & the court finds in her favor.

Good luck to her, and I wish the same. Bloodsucking parasite sociopaths.
"It is difficult to write a paradiso when all the superficial indications are that you ought to write an apocalypse." -Ezra Pound

 

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