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Idiot Emergency
« Reply #300 on: February 15, 2019, 09:57:58 AM »
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Less than 24 hours afterannouncing his intent to declare a national emergencyin order to begin construction on a border wall between the U.S. and Mexico, President Donald Trump made it official in a wildly incoherent Rose Garden address on Friday.

After initially riffing about China, Brexit, Syria, and North Korea, Trump got down to business...sort of. There was a lot of rambling nonsense.

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"We don't control our own border," Trump said. "We are going to confront the national security crisis on our southern border and we are going to do it one way or the other -- we have to do it." https://cbsn.ws/2GG2ErP 

“So I’m gonna be signing a national emergency,” Trump finally said. “And it’s been signed many times before!”

“There’s rarely been a problem,” Trump added. “They sign it! Nobody cares.”

“So we’ll see what happens. China’s coming here next week, by the way,” he interjected, before finally getting to the point:

So, we’re going to be signing, today, and registering national emergency. And, it’s a great thing to do, because we have an invasion of drugs, invasion of gangs, invasion of people. It’s unacceptable.

He also said, in a weirdly sarcastic tone, that he expected to be sued.

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Trump now outlining what he thinks will happen next:

"And we will then be sued and they will sue us in the 9th Circuit and we will possibly get a bad ruiling and then we'll end up in the Supreme Court and then we'll win in the Supreme Court ..."

Trump’s declaration—which has prompted a round oflukewarm objectionsfrom congressional Republicans—follows weeks of bipartisan congressional negotiation on a deal to prevent another government shutdown. Notably, the deal gives the president$1.3 billion for border securityinstead of the $5.7 billion he requested for a wall. Given Trump’s plan to shuffle billions into his wall through the emergency declaration, however, Democrats might be wondering why they conceded to offering any money at all.

Trump’s national emergency order is virtually certain to face any number of protracted legal challenges; House Democrats arealready preparing to vote on a motion against the order in Congress, and, failing that, take it to court if necessary—a likely outcome given the GOP’s control of the Senate.

After declaring his national emergency, the president is scheduled to fly to his private estate in Mar a Lago, Florida, where he will presumably spend the weekend golfing.

Update, 11:15 a.m. ET: While Trump rambled, Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders shared a picture of the president signing his national emergency:

Sarah Sanders @PressSec

President @realDonaldTrump signs the Declaration for a National Emergency to address the national security and humanitarian crisis at the Southern Border.

Democrats were quick to respond to Trump’s announcement:

Phil Mattingly @Phil_Mattingly

Joint @SpeakerPelosi/@SenSchumer statement: “The Congress will defend our constitutional authorities in the Congress, in the Courts, and in the public, using every remedy available.”

Update, 11:24 p.m. ET:The press conference is going great.

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A reporter asks Trump where he gets his statistics on immigration and crime from. Trump scolds him and tells his to "sit down."

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Re: Idiot: Emergency!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #301 on: February 15, 2019, 10:10:43 AM »

Yep.

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Re: Things That Make Me Say, "Dafuq?"
« Reply #302 on: February 15, 2019, 10:15:50 AM »
Goddam right he'll be sued, and if the SCOTUS gives him a pass (which they might)  you can stick a fork in the political experiment formerly known as America, because we're done.
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Re: Things That Make Me Say, "Dafuq?"
« Reply #303 on: February 15, 2019, 10:21:27 AM »
Goddam right he'll be sued, and if the SCOTUS gives him a pass (which they might)  you can stick a fork in the political experiment formerly known as America, because we're done.


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Re: Things That Make Me Say, "Dafuq?"
« Reply #304 on: February 15, 2019, 11:57:56 AM »
Goddam right he'll be sued, and if the SCOTUS gives him a pass (which they might)  you can stick a fork in the political experiment formerly known as America, because we're done.

Because then we will have a king. So much for "limited government" republicans.
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A Weak and Rambling President Declares a Fake National Emergency
« Reply #305 on: February 16, 2019, 06:39:31 AM »
The New Yorker take on yesterday's Trumpster fire.

A Weak and Rambling President Declares a Fake National Emergency

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February 15, 2019

President Trump’s fictitious border crisis is a central element of the political narrative he has constructed for his white-nationalist base, and it’s one he can’t easily back away from.

Photograph by Sarah Silbiger / NYT / Redux

On Friday morning, Donald Trump walked up to a lectern in the White House Rose Garden to make an announcement of monumental importance that clearly couldn’t wait a moment longer. “Before we begin,” he said, “I’d like to just say that we have a large team of very talented people in China. We’ve had a negotiation going on for about two days. It’s going extremely well.” Then Trump brought up North Korea, Syria, and the state of the U.S. economy. Finally, he moved on to the business of the moment: a desperate effort to put the best possible face on the humiliating defeat that he suffered on Capitol Hill over funding for his border wall. “We are going to be signing today, and registering, a national emergency,” he said. “And it’s a great thing to do because we have an invasion of drugs, an invasion of gangs, an invasion of people, and it’s unacceptable.”

He didn’t leave it at that; he doesn’t know the concept. Instead, he sought to justify his action by trotting out some of his old lies about undocumented immigrants, and some he’s added to his repertoire more recently. “We have far more people trying to get into the country today than probably we’ve ever had before.” (The number of interdictions at the southern border is running at roughly half the level it was a decade ago.) The crime and drug problem in El Paso is “a hundred per cent” better since the construction of a border barrier. (El Paso has long had one of the lowest crime rates of any city in the country.) Federal prisons are full of illegal immigrants. (Even setting aside people being held for immigration offenses, undocumented immigrants make up a tiny proportion of the federal-prison population.)

Trump’s description of the situation at the border is almost entirely fictitious, of course, but in one sense it is real. It’s a central element of the political narrative he has constructed for his white-nationalist base over the past three and a half years, and, as he helpfully sought to explain, it’s one he can’t easily back away from at this stage. “I ran on a very simple slogan: ‘Make America Great Again,’ ” he said. “If you’re going to have drugs pouring across the border, if you’re going to have human traffickers pouring across the border in areas where we have no protection, in areas where we don’t have a barrier, then it’s very hard to make America great again.”

In this carefully concocted narrative, the wall isn’t a mere stretch of concrete or steel fencing stretching along the border; it’s a symbol of national sovereignty and regeneration. But, if it’s so important, why didn’t Trump get it built during his first two years in office, when the Republicans controlled both houses of Congress? Trump’s failure to get his own party to support what was arguably his signature campaign pledge demonstrates that he is fundamentally a weak and isolated President. But, of course, he can’t admit that publicly, either. Instead, he said, “It would have been great to have done it earlier. But I was a little new to the job, a little new to the profession. And we had a little disappointment for the first year and a half. People that should have stepped up did not step up. But we’re stepping up now.” Take that, Paul Ryan!

This official unveiling of the former House Speaker as Trump’s 2020 whipping boy didn’t come as a surprise. Neither did the declaration of a national emergency. Trump has been threatening to make this move for months, and Mitch McConnell, the Majority Leader in the Senate, had announced his intentions from the Senate floor on Thursday afternoon. Earlier on Thursday, according to a tick-tock by the Washington Post, Trump was still threatening to veto the bipartisan spending deal that allotted $1.375 billion to border barriers. In order to get him to sign the bill and keep the government open, McConnell agreed to support the declaration of an emergency and encouraged other Republicans to support it.

Here was yet another example of how the G.O.P. leadership’s Faustian pact with Trump has driven them to enable his more authoritarian tendencies. During his Rose Garden address, Trump freely conceded that his emergency decree will immediately be challenged in the lower courts, and quite likely get snagged there. But citing what happened to his travel ban, he said he was hopeful of prevailing in the Supreme Court—an outcome that can’t be ruled out given its conservative tilt.

If this happens, Trump will have succeeded in undermining the principle that the President proposes and the Congress disposes, which is contained in Article I of the Constitution. And, as Democrats and Republicans were quick to point out, he will have set a precedent. In a statement issued on Friday afternoon, Thom Tillis, a Republican senator from North Carolina, invoked the prospect of “President Elizabeth Warren declaring a national emergency to shut down banks and take over the nation’s financial institutions.”

Trump doesn’t care about precedent, of course. After he had finished his peroration, CNN’s Jim Acosta, who is possibly his least favorite reporter, asked him to explain the disconnect between his description of what’s happening at the border and data from his own government that shows border crossings “at a near record low” and “undocumented immigrants committing crimes at lower levels than native Americans.” Trump dodged the question and called CNN “fake news.” The next questioner, Playboy’s Brian Karem, followed up Acosta’s question and asked Trump to say where he gets his figures. “I get my numbers from a lot of sources, like Homeland Security, primarily,” Trump replied. “And the numbers that I have from Homeland Security are a disaster.”

Another of the reporters asked to what degree outside conservative voices had influenced Trump’s thinking on the national emergency. Rather than dismissing the question as impertinent, he said, “Look, Sean Hannity has been a terrific supporter of what I do. . . . Rush Limbaugh, I think he’s a great guy. Here’s a guy who could speak for three hours without a phone call. Try doing that sometime.” Turning to Ann Coulter, who has excoriated the President on Twitter this week for agreeing to a budget deal that won’t fund the wall, Trump recalled that in 2016 she had predicted he would win the election. “So I like her,” he said. “But she’s off the reservation.”

Arguably, the most revealing exchange came when Peter Alexander, of NBC News, asked Trump to admit that the spending deal he was to sign later in the day gave him less money for his wall than he could have got before the government shutdown. Of course, Trump never admits anything. He insisted that he’d got “billions and billions of dollars for other things—port of entries, lots of different things” from Congress. But, when it came to the wall, he went on, “they skimped.” Then he added, “So I did—I was successful in that sense, but I want to do it faster. I could do the wall over a longer period of time. I didn’t need to do this, but I’d rather do it much faster.”

It will be interesting to see what the courts make of Trump’s admission that, when it came time to declare a national emergency, he didn’t “need to do this.” At the least, it was good to get it on the record from his own lips. Inside the Reagan Administration there used to be a saying: “Let Reagan be Reagan.” In the Trump Administration such a statement would be entirely redundant. The President lets it all hang out: the incoherence, the fabrications, the mendacity, the raging but delicate ego, the attention-deficit disorder, and, occasionally, the revealing shards of self-illumination. He just can’t help himself.

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