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The Kitchen Sink / Re: I 🐢 don't want to put Emojii's in my newz titles
« Last post by Eddie on Today at 11:49:27 AM »
Whether you use emojis or not is entirely up to you.  Creative Thinking Interesting Cool 😎 individuals like myself and AG like to use them; Conventional Thinking Boring Uncool 🤤 people like Surly & Eddie do not.
RE


Well said.  ;D ✨  🎋 🎍

I might add that resistance to change is one of those Maslow recogniized traits that, though always present among those lacking flexibility and creativity, increasingly manifest themseves as old age dementia sets in. 🙉
NOTE: If that doesn't pull their chain good and proper, nothing will!

Fuck all y'all.



For someone who doesn't like emojis. you seem to have a real affection for the Pile of Poo emo.  :icon_mrgreen:

Sadly, so far there is no NOOSE emoji



and no GUILLOTINE emoji



Those would get a lot of use on the Diner I am sure.  :icon_mrgreen:

RE

 :icon_mrgreen:

I just knew I could figure out a sure fire way to get my fellow crusty old friend  Surly to use emojies! 

With Eddie, who is one of those wiley Texans that keep their powder dry while they check to see whether you are in range or not, we need to be more subtle.  :evil4:

You know, Eddie 🐢, only a post turtle would arbitrarily condemn the creative use of emojies. Of course I have nothing personal against post turtles 🐢 . I hear some of them 🐢 are good at pulling teeth, after all.  :icon_sunny: Yep, it takes all kinds to make a world, I always say. We must not look down on those limited to alphanumeric characters in their prose. It's not their fault that they are post turtles. It beats bein' a turd blossom any old day!


I have no problem with anybody else using fancy emojis. I just don't intend to do it myself. Graphics is graphics and words is words. To each his own.
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Economics / Re: The future of a 401k
« Last post by Eddie on Today at 11:41:44 AM »
Do they match your contribution? If so, it's a no brainer. Do it. Free money. Usually there is matching money, but you have to stay onboard for a period of time or you lose that when you exit because you are not yet "vested". I think most plans are vested at a year now, but some might be 3 years. Read the fine print.

If it's all your money, then whether it's worth it depends on what the options are on investing the money. Do you have to use their chosen family of mutual funds? Can you buy any stocks you want to keep in your portfolio? Can you buy physical gold and silver in the 401K?

The wrong thing to do is to put the money in some index fund that tracks the S&P and forget about it. And this is exactly what most people with a 401K do. Do NOT make that mistake.
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It's more like you're a tree that fell in the forest while no one was watching. Did you make a sound?

the sound of one hand clapping

The resistance to chaos trait is interesting to think about.  People who don't care about others could produce chaos to get what they want.  Holy Charlie Manson Batman!  That part is interesting but there is plenty in the article to justify labeling people as psychopaths just because they are interested in the bigger picture.

Psychopathology is an individual affliction but throw some social stratification instinct into the mix and what was individual becomes the norm.  Egalitarianism must be adopted as a virtue or really bad shit happens.  While there is some depth to the article it also has a dark side.  To know is not just to be informed.  There are depths to knowing and a society that always looks for boogeymen cannot see their own monstrousness.  A shallow reading of this article is dangerous.

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Carthaginians in the legend are portrayed as treacherous and deceitful practitioners of doublespeak. Like their Phoenician cousins, they are overly controlled by women and liable to suffer from such dangerous feminine traits as hysteria and envy. They are also cruel and unhealthily obsessed with death, as well as sexually lascivious and with an overdeveloped love of wealth.”

After a two-year siege of Carthage in the third Punic war, Scipio Aemilianus set the city alight, and for six days and nights his death squads ranged the streets slaughtering men, women and children who had survived the blaze, with teams rotated to maximise efficiency.

Those Carthaginians, psychopaths every one of them!

The psychopathology of the tribe.




K-Dog 🦖 apologist for in-your-face evil behavior strikes again.

One of the best ways to spot a psychopath is when a poster repeteadly tries to normalize psychopathic behavior as "no big deal". Et tu 🦍, Brute?
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The Kitchen Sink / Re: I don't want to put Emojii's in my newz titles
« Last post by agelbert on Today at 11:13:35 AM »
Whether you use emojis or not is entirely up to you.  Creative Thinking Interesting Cool 😎 individuals like myself and AG like to use them; Conventional Thinking Boring Uncool 🤤 people like Surly & Eddie do not.
RE


Well said.  ;D ✨  🎋 🎍



I might add that resistance to change is one of those Maslow recogniized traits that, though always present among those lacking flexibility and creativity, increasingly manifest themseves as old age dementia sets in. 🙉
NOTE: If that doesn't pull their chain good and proper, nothing will!

Fuck all y'all.



🦊

Really, old chum, your scatological creativity needs a bit of an upgrade 🦖. I suggest you use the following graphic for the purposes you wished to employ in the above message. It is, as I am sure you will agree, far more fecally descriptive.  :icon_sunny:

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Whether you use emojis or not is entirely up to you.  Creative Thinking Interesting Cool 😎 individuals like myself and AG like to use them; Conventional Thinking Boring Uncool 🤤 people like Surly & Eddie do not.
RE


Well said.  ;D ✨  🎋 🎍

I might add that resistance to change is one of those Maslow recogniized traits that, though always present among those lacking flexibility and creativity, increasingly manifest themseves as old age dementia sets in. 🙉
NOTE: If that doesn't pull their chain good and proper, nothing will!

Fuck all y'all.



For someone who doesn't like emojis. you seem to have a real affection for the Pile of Poo emo.  :icon_mrgreen:

Sadly, so far there is no NOOSE emoji



and no GUILLOTINE emoji



Those would get a lot of use on the Diner I am sure.  :icon_mrgreen:

RE

 :icon_mrgreen:

I just knew I could figure out a sure fire way to get my fellow crusty old friend  Surly to use emojies! 

With Eddie, who is one of those wiley Texans that keep their powder dry while they check to see whether you are in range or not, we need to be more subtle.  :evil4:

You know, Eddie 🐢, only a post turtle would arbitrarily condemn the creative use of emojies. Of course I have nothing personal against post turtles 🐢 . I hear some of them 🐢 are good at pulling teeth, after all.  :icon_sunny: Yep, it takes all kinds to make a world, I always say. We must not look down on those limited to alphanumeric characters in their prose. It's not their fault that they are post turtles. It beats bein' a turd blossom any old day!





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Economics / The future of a 401k
« Last post by luciddreams on Today at 10:23:02 AM »
I wanted to put this question to the Diner because I think I'll get a lot of good angels on the question, and because I think it has the potential to provide a lively bit of conversation.  The question I have is this: is it worth contributing to a 401K now?  I got automatically enrolled in my companies 401k when I signed on, and currently I'm contributing 4% of my gross income to it, and that amounts to an average of $160 a month...sometimes more, sometimes less, but that's a good average.  After a year I have the option to up this contribution to 8% (I think). 

With all of the deductions and taxes I lose approximately 22% of my income.  That's with claiming 6 on my W-2 as well, so I'm not sure how that will flesh out come tax time, which will be next year since most of this year I ran my business. 

The reason I'm questioning the 401k is because it seems that it's only worth doing if you buy the predominate paradigm.  I figure 20 years at best, and probably really just another 10 of BAU.  It's possible that trucking can provide me with a livable income for the rest of my life, but it's not very likely...still...possible.  Also, I don't really want to do this for the rest of my life.  At this point I'm driving OTR to get the mandatory experience that will unlock a universe of CDL positions that are more local.  You still need at least a year OTR, and 2-3 is even better.  I can definitely see doing this for a few years.  Yet the possibility remains that I may do it for 20.  I may stay with this company for 20.  If I do that than 20 years of 401k contribution can certainly assist in keeping myself housed and fed in my old age. 

$160 a month is just enough money to be worth considering.  It's $100 a month to pay for my oldest to train in Aikido.  Another $60 could buy some tasty adult beverages, or take us out to eat. 

It's a gamble, I know.  Does BAU last another 20 years?  Even if it does, that would be the point where I'd start collecting on my monthly contributions.  I can't figure out if I'm pissing this money away or not?  I had free medical and now I pay over $500 a month for it, and then I pay when we actually use it in copays and deductibles.  It's gotta be the worst fuckin' racket I'm aware of...Wealthcare.  It's free if you're poor and nominal if you're rich, but if you are blue collar it eats up a sizeable portion of your meager income. 

If BAU is going to end in the next 10 years than it feels better to me to just keep my money, since I'm already losing enough of it anyways.  The 401k is pretty much the only way I can increase my net income. 

So, what do you think Diners? 
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How to Identify a “Shithole” 🌪 Country

By Tom Lewis | January 12, 2018 | Politics

If you look around your country and see a lot of these, that would be one clue. But there are others.

It’s important in national and international affairs that the terms of statecraft be precisely defined. When making policy and alliances, the parties must at all times be rigorously clear about what is meant by such labels as “nuclear power,” “developing country,” and the like. Now, a new term of art just introduced by the President of the United States, “shithole country,” begs a proper definition. Let us fix that for ya. Here is how you tell whether a country qualifies for the new designation.

Exhibit One
— Airports. If you have an airport, named for one of your most popular presidents, located just outside your largest city, in which earlier this month:

Hundreds of people were stranded on airplanes unable to get to a gate for up to 20 hours;

Baggage-handling machinery froze and failed, so that those lucky enough to get off their planes couldn’t get their bags;

It was so cold in the terminal that hundreds of the people stranded there built ramshackle shelters out of discarded cardboard boxes (you know, like homeless people do), where some spent three days ;

Two airliners collided on the tarmac;

A water main break flooded one of the airport’s four terminals with three inches of water and required that all electricity to the terminal be shut off;

Then you might be living in one of those countries the President was talking about.

This “cascading series of issues” (the words of the authority that runs the airport) occurred, of course, at John F Kennedy Airport, described as New York City’s “primary airport” and “the busiest international air passenger gateway to North America.”

Exhibit Two — Train Stations. Penn Station is to railroad travel what JFK is to air travel.  It is the main intercity railroad station in New York City, and the busiest passenger transportation hub in the Western Hemisphere, handling 600,000 passengers a day. It is located underneath  Madison Square Garden in midtown Manhattan, where railroads can reach it only through tunnels. In the same week that JFK was experiencing its “cascading issues,” Penn Station was described by Bloomberg BusinessWeek as “The Most Awful Transit Center in America,” which “Could Get Unimaginably Worse.”

Penn Station has been overcrowded, overused and deteriorating for decades. The first major program proposed to renovate it was offered in the 1990s, failed to get government support. Since then, traffic has doubled and every proposal to tackle the problem has died of neglect. The latest was torpedoed by none other than Donald Trump.

The two tunnels that cross under the Hudson River — that connect Penn Station with everything and everyone in the eastern US south of New York — were built while the Wright Brothers were building their first airplane factory, over 100 years ago. When the tunnels were flooded by Hurricane Sandy, the salt and chemicals deposited began eating even faster into the ancient cement and masonry that, should it fail, would shut down a major chunk of the US economy and introduce the Hudson River into midtown Manhattan. Not only is nothing being down about it, there are no plans to do anything about it.

Last spring a sewage pipe broke in Penn Station, flooding one of the crowded concourses with raw sewage. Making it, of course, a literal shithole.

Devin Leonard, who wrote the Bloomberg BusinessWeek article, concluded:

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Penn Station is a debacle reaching across time. Its past is a slow-motion disaster of inaction and canceled reforms, its present an ongoing disgrace. And its future could be truly catastrophic, in the form of a tunnel failure that pinches shut one of the most vital economic arteries in America.

I’ll have to get back to you on Exhibits Three through 320 — bridges, highways, the electric grid, water pollution, soil depletion, ocean dead zones, garbage, declining life expectancy — but you get the idea. When the Donald 🐒 created this new category by which nations are to be assessed, only the Stable Genius knew that America would turn out, once again, to be Number One.

http://www.dailyimpact.net/2018/01/12/how-to-identify-a-shithole-country/#more-3828
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Surly Newz / Re: The Surlynewz Channel
« Last post by K-Dog on Today at 10:01:56 AM »
Quote from: AG
But, IMHO, the main issue here is the willful lack of critical thinking in American society. The big picture involving the ideal this country was founded on is, and always has been, a target for those that see through the soaring rhetoric of the Founding Fathers to the oligarchic seeds they consciously and deliberately planted.

Accounting in large measure for the thirty-year-and continuing war on public education. The standardization and stupefying of curriculum, teaching to standardized tests, the crushing institutionalization, all make for several generation of people who despise learning, and who prefer to get their few sustaining ideas from the corn filched out of Sean Hannity's turds.

Man, I'm getting old.

corn filched out of Sean Hannity's turds

"You tell me whar a man gits his corn pone, en I'll tell you what his 'pinions is."
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I picked out a bunch of mini-open face sandwiches from the Swedish table in the buffet.  I can't identify what they all are, but they LOOK great!  :o

This kind of breakfast is totally impractical for an individual at home, even for a typical family of 4.  You need to be feeding a lot of people, and have a few people to set up an assembly line to make the mini sandwiches.  We did this at the convocation in SC with bagels and lox.  Fortunately at the Diner on Sundays we have a lot of customers!  :icon_sunny:

Smörgåsbord Mini Open Face Sandwiches

Looks like bruschetta. Could just as easily be Italian.
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Surly Newz / Re: The Surlynewz Channel
« Last post by K-Dog on Today at 09:31:10 AM »
It's more like you're a tree that fell in the forest while no one was watching. Did you make a sound?

the sound of one hand clapping

The resistance to chaos trait is interesting to think about.  People who don't care about others could produce chaos to get what they want.  Holy Charlie Manson Batman!  That part is interesting but there is plenty in the article to justify labeling people as psychopaths just because they are interested in the bigger picture.

Psychopathology is an individual affliction but throw some social stratification instinct into the mix and what was individual becomes the norm.  Egalitarianism must be adopted as a virtue or really bad shit happens.  While there is some depth to the article it also has a dark side.  To know is not just to be informed.  There are depths to knowing and a society that always looks for boogeymen cannot see their own monstrousness.  A shallow reading of this article is dangerous.

Quote
Carthaginians in the legend are portrayed as treacherous and deceitful practitioners of doublespeak. Like their Phoenician cousins, they are overly controlled by women and liable to suffer from such dangerous feminine traits as hysteria and envy. They are also cruel and unhealthily obsessed with death, as well as sexually lascivious and with an overdeveloped love of wealth.”

After a two-year siege of Carthage in the third Punic war, Scipio Aemilianus set the city alight, and for six days and nights his death squads ranged the streets slaughtering men, women and children who had survived the blaze, with teams rotated to maximise efficiency.

Those Carthaginians, psychopaths every one of them!

The psychopathology of the tribe.
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