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Terrific movie and a great clip, but not apropos. If it ever came to that, it wouldn't be a shootout.
Something more like this:

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They didn't use one of those on Lavoy Finicum, why would they on BS?  ???   :icon_scratch:


Finicum attempted to run a roadblock set by FBI and state Police and got shot when he reached for his weapon. Notably, the feds didn't even call in the troops when Mondo Welfare Queen Cliven Bundy urged armed insurrection on the BLM and called a bunch of right-wing camo monkeys to gather in support of his right to Free Shit.

(Notice how "Free Shit Army" is only supposed to apply to black people? I wonder how many "Harvest Boxes" Bundy's overdue grazing fees, in arrears and totaling about $5 million, would be worth?)

My point, which you studiously ignore with the otherwise-admirable consistency you apply only to opinions that emerges from others, is that when the 50 calibers start firing, a lot of these MAGA types will be glad they are wearing camo, the better to disguise the sudden contents of their pants.
Marathon Man Newz / Re: LaPierre Doubles Down
« Last post by Surly1 on Today at 01:41:44 PM »
Democrats are all devious agents aligned against Individual Liberties.

And besides, guns aren't the problem. It's those dumb academics running the schools without enough gun-toting security guards up in the guard towers.

And Big Pharma.

And the decline in Family Values.

And anything else that resonates with his brain dead gun show crowd. He's very confident that his bags of money will keep the status quo safe for firearms wholesalers and retailers.

NRA Leader Warns Conservatives Of 'Socialist Wave' In Wake Of Shooting

I read an article earlier about LaPierre's tour de farce. My wife told me she watched it in real time, and the response was tepid. Which surprises me, because this sort of drivel is red meat to these mouth-breathers.

The problem is these guys are still fighting the culture wars, and the incoming generation will not be having any as these old stalwarts "age off the file."
Marathon Man Newz / Re: LaPierre Doubles Down
« Last post by RE on Today at 11:07:28 AM »
It looks like they'll get a higher age minimum for a gun purchase and a better background check system from this go-round.  It doesn't look like AR-15s or Semi-Auto Pistols will be banned any time too soon.

Marathon Man Newz / LaPierre Doubles Down
« Last post by Eddie on Today at 11:01:25 AM »
Democrats are all devious agents aligned against Individual Liberties.

And besides, guns aren't the problem. It's those dumb academics running the schools without enough gun-toting security guards up in the guard towers.

And Big Pharma.

And the decline in Family Values.

And anything else that resonates with his brain dead gun show crowd. He's very confident that his bags of money will keep the status quo safe for firearms wholesalers and retailers.

NRA Leader Warns Conservatives Of 'Socialist Wave' In Wake Of Shooting

February 22, 201811:34 AM ET

The National Rifle Association's executive vice president and CEO, Wayne LaPierre, speaks during the 2018 Conservative Political Action Conference at National Harbor in Oxen Hill, Md., on Thursday.
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Updated at 1:22 p.m. ET

Just over a week after 17 people were killed at Parkland, Fla., high school, National Rifle Association executive vice president and CEO Wayne LaPierre gave a fiery, defiant speech at the annual Conservative Political Action Conference, or CPAC, on Thursday in Washington, D.C. LaPierre defended Second Amendment rights and warned of a "socialist agenda" intended to strip firearms away from law-abiding citizens.

"As usual, the opportunists wasted not one second to exploit tragedy for political gain," LaPierre said, adding that 20th century community organizer "Saul Alinsky would have been proud of the breakneck speed for gun control laws and the breathless national media eager to smear the NRA."

LaPierre, who was not listed on CPAC's official schedule, accused Democrats of making gun control a political issue in order to achieve their ultimate goal to "eradicate all individual freedoms."

"What they want are more restrictions on the law-abiding — think about that," LaPierre said. "Their solution is to make you, all of you, less free. They want to sweep right under the carpet the failure of school security, the failure of the family, the failure of America's school systems and even the unbelievable failure of the FBI."

Right before LaPierre took the stage, NRA national spokeswoman Dana Loesch also spoke, striking a far angrier tone than she had in a CNN town hall Wednesday evening and even admitting the accusations she was about to make would be controversial.

"Many in legacy media love mass shootings. You guys love it. I'm not saying that you love the tragedy, but I am saying that you love the ratings. Crying white mothers are ratings gold to you and many of the legacy media in the back," she charged, pointing to journalists at the back of the ballroom.

And as LaPierre did, Loesch — who also wasn't officially on the pre-released CPAC agenda — blamed failures in law enforcement for the latest tragedy at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla.

"We will not be gaslighted into thinking that we are responsible for a tragedy that we had nothing to do with. It is not our job to follow up on red flags. It is not our job to make sure that states are reporting to the background system," Loesch said.

LaPierre said that in the past, he had worked with Democrats who wanted to work to reduce gun violence, but that leaders now only cared about exploiting tragedy for political gain, calling them a "tidal wave of new European socialists" in charge of the party and name-checking Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif.; Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass.; New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio; New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo; Sen. Cory Booker, D-N.J.; Sen. Christopher Murphy, D-Conn.; and Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., to boos in the crowd.

"The elites care not one whit about America's school system and schoolchildren," LaPierre added.

"I hear a lot of quiet in this room, and I sense your anxiety," LaPierre said, turning to the political consequences of the debate. "And you should be anxious, and you should be frightened. If they seize power, if these so-called 'European socialists' take over the House and the Senate, and God forbid they get the White House again, our Americans freedoms could be lost and our country will be changed forever."

LaPierre also accused Democrats like Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., of not working with conservatives and activists enough to address mental health as a concern and to put such checks into the database system to prevent dangerous people from getting access to guns.

LaPierre also echoed a longtime call of the NRA — which President Trump also endorsed during a White House listening session with families of victims and survivors of gun violence on Wednesday — to more heavily arm school personnel and to provide better security and roll back gun-free school zones.

"We must immediately harden our schools. Every day, young children are being dropped off at schools that are virtually wide open, soft targets for anyone bent on mass murder," LaPierre argued. "It should not be easier for a madman to shoot up a school than a bank or a jewelry story or some Hollywood gala. Schools must be the most hardened target in this country, and evil must be confronted immediately with all necessary force to protect our kids."

LaPierre ended his speech, to a standing ovation, by reprising comments he made just over five years ago after the mass-shooting tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Conn.: "To stop a bad guy with a gun, it takes a good guy with a gun."

Ahead of the NRA leader's speech, Trump tweeted his support for LaPierre and others in the organization, calling them "Great People and Great American Patriots" who will "do the right thing."

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"The NRA is ready to do things. People like to blame them," Trump later said during a meeting at the White House with state and local officials about school safety.

Vice President Pence also addressed the Parkland shooting at the outset of his remarks to the CPAC crowd. He pointed out that Trump had already taken action to regulate bump stocks this week and in meetings with governors next week, the White House "will make the safety of America's schools and America's students our top national priority."

"In America we mourn with those who mourn and grieve with those who grieve," Pence said.

What a crock of shit. I suggest  a lot more people join the NRA and take it over from within. La Pierre needs to be sent packing. Maybe he could drop in to the Trump Hotel and get swallowed up with the fake apostles when God does his giant sinkhole miracle.
The Diner Pantry / 🍕 Doomstead Diner Lunch Special: 2/22/2018
« Last post by RE on Today at 11:00:56 AM »
Continuing on with our Celebration of Ham 🐖 week here at the Diner, today we go with a Hawaiian Pizza.  They didn't have HPs when I was a kid, and I never developed a taste for them in later years either.  The Sweet of the Pineapple 🍍 just doen't fit with the overall Pizza taste to me.  However, lots of people like them and they are on the menu at most of the bigger pizza joints around here.


Hawaiian Pizza
If there is a God may he open a giant sinkhole that swallows up these false prophets and their pet President and his fucking hotel too.

Karl Rove strategy #3: Accuse your opponent of your own weakness

Quite often a mitigation skeptic will present an "argument" that would make sense if the science side would make it, but makes no sense from their side. Classics would be dead African babies or being in it for the money.

A more person example would be Anthony Watts, the host of mitigation skeptical blog WUWT, claiming that I have a WUWT fixation. Fixation champion Anthony Watts who incites hatred of Michael E. Mann on a weekly if not daily basis. That I write about his cesspit occasionally makes sense given that Watts claims to doubt the temperature trend from station measurements; that is my topic. WUWT is also hard to avoid given that PR professional Watts calls his blog "The world's most viewed site on global warming and climate changes" to improve its standing with journalists and his blog is at least a larger one thus the immoral behavior of WUWT represents the mainstream of the political movement against mitigation.

You can naturally see this behavior as the psychological problem called "projection":
Psychological projection is the act or technique of defending oneself against unpleasant impulses by denying their existence in oneself, while attributing them to others.

Exxon 🦖 Sues Collection Of Figures 🕊🍀🌻 🌼 🌷🌱 Associated With Climate Change Lawsuits, Alleging Conspiracy

February 22nd, 2018 by James Ayre 


As you may recall, companies are now considered to have the same rights as humans from a legal standpoint in the US.

So, what can be made of the new lawsuits from Exxon? Just another spectacle for the public? Another way for the various “sports teams” that comprise most of what passes for politics these days to hoot and holler at each other? Another spectacle at the coliseum? Another way to curtail actual change and keep “business and usual” churning? Or is there more to it than that?

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Agelbert NOTE: In other news that I am certain and I am sure could certainly not have anything to do with a CONSPIRACY of the Fossil Fuel Fascists working with our bought and paid for government to hide the truth about FRACKING POLLUTION, you may be intersted in reading this:

Emissions From Fracking 5 Times Higher Than Reported

February 22nd, 2018 by Steve Hanley


Natural gas is not a “bridge fuel to the future.” It is a death sentence for humanity. Think that is too strong? Think again. A new study by the Environmental Defense Fund finds that methane escaping from fracking operations in Pennsylvania “causes the same near term climate pollution as 11 coal fired power plants” and is “five times higher than what oil and gas companies report” to the state. A previous assessment by EDF last November found methane emissions escaping from oil and gas wells in New Mexico are “equivalent to the climate impact of approximately 12 coal fired power plants.”

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The Fossil Fuelers 🦖 DID THE Clean Energy  Inventions suppressing, Climate Trashing, human health depleting CRIME,   but since they have ALWAYS BEEN liars and conscience free crooks 🦀, they are trying to AVOID   DOING THE TIME or     PAYING THE FINE!     Don't let them get away with it! Pass it on!   
Julian and Ashvin are tied in the latest election for POTW.  If they are still tied tomorrow, we will have a runoff election.

Sure, I get that. And I didn't mean that what goes on here is some huge detriment to society, at least not the Diner by itself.

Maybe things have changed, but it used to be that people visited forums like this one for some real profundity and insight into what has happened and, more importantly, what will happen in the near-term and how we should all think and react going forward. On that level, I think the collapse blogosphere has failed spectacularly.

I don't think anyone ever went to a forum to find profundity and insight.  If they did, they don't understand the nature of online forums.  They go to chew the fat with others of like minds.  Or to argue with people of the opposite mindset.  The collapse blogosphere has succeeded magnificently in this respect.  :icon_sunny:

But it's good that you, as the forum founder, recognize the limitations of your creation and are willing to "market" it as more of a hangout where various minds can pontificate with each other on a range of topics (some more asinine than others). I'll make an effort to pop in for the philosophical and theological musings.

I don't consider this a limitation, it's a feature.  :icon_sunny:

We don't have many theological and philosophical discussions anymore.  First off, you and Ka dropped out.  Second, the rest of us all know what the others think on these topics.  We exhausted them.

Somehow, I have been getting Netflix for free since it first started...

If/When they discover this, you can be charged retroactively for all of it, plus a fine for knowingly pirating content.

Your not so subtle attempts to diss the board did not go unnoticed.  Have a nice day. :P

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