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They won't have to walk out in AZ.  Teachers beat them to it.

School's Out for Summer early this year!  :icon_sunny:

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Hundreds of school walkouts planned for Friday

"We're walking out to remember every single young person who has been killed by American gun violence."
by Associated Press / Apr.20.2018 / 3:01 AM ET / Updated 3:24 AM ET

A student waves a placard as classmates gather during a student walkout to protest gun violence on the soccer field behind Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado, on March 14, 2018.David Zalubowski / AP

Another wave of student walkouts is expected to disrupt classes Friday at hundreds of schools across the U.S. as young activists press for tougher gun laws.

The protests were chosen to line up with the 19th anniversary of the Columbine High School shooting, which left 13 people dead in Littleton, Colorado. At 10 a.m., students plan to gather for moments of silence honoring the victims at Columbine and other shootings.

From there, some students will head to rallies at their statehouses. Others will stay at school to discuss gun violence. Some are holding voting registration drives.

Organizers say there will be walkouts in every state, with more than 2,600 registered on the event's website as of Thursday. Citywide protests are expected to attract thousands in New York City and Austin, Texas. Police in Richmond, Virginia, say they expect at least 10,000 at the state Capitol.

It follows a wave of youth activism that has emerged after the Feb. 14 shooting massacre at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida.

Tens of thousands of students left class March 14 to protest gun violence in what historians called the largest youth protest movement since at least the Vietnam War. Days later, hundreds of thousands of teens and their backers rallied across the U.S. calling for tougher laws on guns and ammunition.

Plans for Friday's walkout began only hours after the Parkland shooting, when a Connecticut teen started an online petition calling for protests on the anniversary of Columbine. Sophomore Lane Murdock then gathered a few other students at Ridgefield High School to orchestrate the national protest.
March For Our Lives: Sights and sounds from the historic rally across the country

They also have received help from Indivisible, a left-leaning nonprofit based in Washington that helps boost grassroots activism. The group says it was formed after the 2016 election to oppose the policies promoted by President Donald Trump.

"We're walking out to remember every single young person who has been killed by American gun violence," Murdock said in a statement Thursday. "We're walking out to talk about the real problems our country is facing, and the solutions that our leaders are too scared to dream up."

Administrators at many schools tacitly allowed the walkouts in March, opting not to punish participants. But some now say the leniency has expired.

At a town hall Monday, the chancellor of New York City's education department urged students not to walk out on Friday.
At March for Our Lives, survivors lead hundreds of thousands in call for change

"You don't need to be out of school all day to make your voices known," Chancellor Richard Carranza told students at Brooklyn Technical High School. "You've already made your voices known. So I'm going to ask you to stay in school."

Even so, students at many New York schools are planning to rally at the city's Washington Square Park.

Some schools in Houston and elsewhere will give students time to share their views but have warned them not to leave campus or return to class late. Some others are holding alternative events after school. Many have simply said students are expected to stay in class throughout the day.

Students in the Washington area are planning to march from the White House to the Capitol building, where they will rally and deliver letters to Congress calling for greater gun control.

In Littleton, some survivors of the Columbine shooting planned to join with Parkland survivors for a vigil and rally Thursday evening. But there will be no walkout at Columbine, which has long canceled classes on the anniversary of the shooting. Instead, students will be called to participate in a day of service.

Principal Scott Christy said in a letter to other schools in his district that April "has long been a time to respectfully remember our loss, and also support efforts to make our communities a better place."

Binkley can be reached on Twitter at @cbinkley

A bit high in refined sugar, but once in a while a Danish🥐 with a Double Espresso :coffee: is a nice way to get a morning energy jolt.⚡  Many styles and fillings available to choose from at the Diner.


Raspberry Pinwheel Danish Pastry

New Clowns coming out of the Volkswagen!

How long before Trumpsky fires Rudy?


Trump hires Giuliani, two other attorneys amid mounting legal turmoil over Russia

Rudolph W. Giuliani was an ardent supporter of President Trump during the 2016 campaign, and the former New York mayor was considered for the post of attorney general. (Mike Segar/Reuters)

by Robert Costa, Josh Dawsey and Rosalind S. Helderman April 19 at 9:08 PM Email the author

Former New York mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani and two other former federal prosecutors joined President Trump’s legal team Thursday following weeks of turbulence and struggles to find attorneys who would agree to represent the president in the ongoing federal probe into Russian election interference.

The reshuffling comes at a particularly tense juncture for Trump, who aides said is increasingly frustrated by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation and with the senior officials at the Justice Department.

The entry of Giuliani, an experienced attorney with a combative reputation, immediately raises questions about how Trump will engage with Mueller and the leadership at Justice. Some Trump advisers are concerned that the president could use his ­executive authority to close or diminish the special counsel probe, which has spawned a parallel investigation in New York targeting his personal attorney.

“I’m doing it because I hope we can negotiate an end to this for the good of the country and because I have high regard for the president and for Bob Mueller,” Giuliani said in an interview Thursday.

Trump said in a statement that Giuliani “wants to get this matter quickly resolved.”

In recent days, the president has been regularly venting and speculating to aides about his legal status and the expected timeline for the Russia investigation to end, according to associates briefed on the discussions.
Rudy Giuliani's strangest moments on the 2016 trail

Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) is a big fan of Donald Trump – and he said some strange things while campaigning for the Republican nominee. (Peter Stevenson/The Washington Post)

Trump also loudly and repeatedly complained to several advisers earlier this week that former FBI director James B. Comey, former deputy FBI director Andrew McCabe and former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, among others, should be charged with crimes for misdeeds alleged by Republicans, the associates said.

Although White House officials said Thursday that Trump has not called Justice Department officials or taken any formal action, the persistent grousing has made some advisers anxious, according to two people close to the president. A publicity tour by Comey to promote his book critical of Trump, “A Higher Loyalty,” has attracted particular attention from the president, who has disparaged Comey publicly and privately.

Trump also complained this week about Supreme Court Justice Neil M. Gorsuch, saying the judge had proved too liberal in recent cases, according to administration officials who heard about the complaints. Associates said he was incensed that Gorsuch had voted against the administration on an immigration case and said it renewed his doubts that Gorsuch would be a reliable conservative. One top Trump adviser played down the comments as unhappiness with Gorsuch’s decision rather than with Gorsuch broadly.

Giuliani, 73, brings a familiarity with several of the legal fronts that Trump is navigating. He is a former associate attorney general and a former U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, which is the office overseeing an investigation of Trump’s personal attorney, Michael Cohen.

Trump counsel Jay Sekulow said Thursday that former federal prosecutors Jane Serene Raskin and Marty Raskin, a couple who manage a Florida-based law firm, have also agreed to join the legal team.

Giuliani is certain to come under intense scrutiny for his role. His own pre-election activities two years ago have been the subject of criticism from Democrats, especially television interviews in which he suggested he had sources providing him inside information about the FBI’s investigation of Clinton’s private email server when she was secretary of state.

A Justice Department Inspector General report on the department’s handling of the Clinton investigations is expected to be released in coming weeks and will probably include results of leak investigations regarding the Clinton probe.

Numerous other challenges face the attorneys who will work alongside Sekulow and counsel Ty Cobb — who have functioned as Trump’s legal nucleus for weeks following the resignation of John Dowd, a legal veteran and the team’s former leader. Dowd stepped down in March amid clashes over strategy and whether Trump should sit for a voluntary interview with Mueller. The legal team has often been beset by infighting.

“The big question is, how’s he going to play with everybody else?” said a lawyer involved with the investigation who was not authorized to speak publicly. “Will he be combative Rudy, or will he play well with Mueller’s team? Will he try to walk . . . back from the brink and answer the big question, which is whether the president will sit for an interview? And will Trump listen to him?”

Giuliani declined to say whether Trump has made a final decision on whether to sit for an interview with federal investigators. Trump has been mulling it for weeks, moving away from the idea after the home, offices and hotel room of Cohen were raided this month. Trump reacted angrily, calling it “disgraceful.”

“It’s too early for me to say that,” Giuliani replied, when asked whether a Trump interview is unlikely to happen.

Giuliani also declined to discuss whether Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein, who has been under fire from conservatives and oversees the Russia probe, could be fired by the president in the coming weeks.

“I’m not involved in anything about those issues. My advice on Mueller has been this: He should be allowed to do his job. He’s entitled to do his job.”

Giuliani said he formalized his decision in recent days, including over dinner last week at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida. Giuliani and Trump spoke Thursday about the legal plan moving forward, along with Sekulow, whom he has known for years and called a friend. He added that he and Cobb also spoke, on Wednesday.

Giuliani — who will take a leave from his law firm, Greenberg Traurig, and is in the midst of a divorce from his third wife — said he would spend a “great deal of time” in Washington working with Trump but would continue to live in New York. He has been frequently been seen holding court at the Trump International Hotel in Washington, dining and drinking with friends and browsing for gourmet cigars.

Trump had considered Giuliani for attorney general and has said in recent weeks he needs a New York-based attorney. Many leading white-collar lawyers, such as former solicitor general Theodore Olson, have declined Trump’s entreaties, often citing conflicts or expressing unease about the high-profile case.

Trump is also known to be a difficult client who does not always listen to his attorneys’ advice, according to lawyers who know him. And Giuliani, once a top adviser, grew frustrated with his treatment during the transition and had receded from the inner circle.

As he has closely monitored cable-news programs chronicling his presidency and the Mueller probe, Trump has swatted away the notion that he cannot attract prominent attorneys. He has also spoken about his desire for a bolstered team and wondered aloud about the damage that Cohen’s legal proceedings could bring, according to the associates briefed on the discussions, who requested anonymity to talk about them.

Giuliani’s arrival is part of a broader shift in Trump’s inner circle toward the core allies and brusque and brutal style that defined his outsider presidential campaign and his business career. Beyond Mueller, aides said everyone and everything around Trump feels liable to become a target for his wrath as he grapples with difficult issues at home and abroad, in Syria and North Korea.

“What we’ve been seeing with the president is that he is picking A-level people that he knows are experienced but also know him well,” said Trump ally Christopher Ruddy, the president and CEO of Newsmax Media, a conservative outlet. “One of the problems in the first year was that people didn’t work out because they didn’t know him and they didn’t have experience for the position.”

Carol D. Leonnig contributed to this report.

Will the AZ teachers win too?  Will the Unions make a comeback?  ???


Arizona teachers vote in favor of statewide walkout
The vote follows weeks of protests and marks a step toward what would be the first-ever statewide strike.
Apr.19.2018 / 10:17 PM ET / Source: Associated Press

PHOENIX — Arizona teachers have voted to walk off the job to demand increased school funding, marking a key step toward a first-ever statewide strike that builds on a movement for higher pay in other Republican-dominant states.

A grassroots group and the state's largest teacher membership group said Thursday that teachers will walkout April 26.

The vote was held following weeks of growing protests and an offer from Republican Gov. Doug Ducey to give teachers 20 percent raise by 2020. Many teachers kept up the pressure at schools and on social media, saying the plan failed to address much-needed funding for classrooms and support staff.
 Nanette Swanson, an elementary school teacher, get emotional as she joins other teachers, parents and students at a protest for higher pay and school funding Wednesday in Phoenix. Ross D. Franklin / AP

"The worst possible thing we could do is not take action right now," said Noah Karvelis, an organizer for Arizona Educators United.

Around 57,000 teachers submitted ballots and 78 percent voted in favor of the walkout, according to the Arizona Education Association.

Teachers on both sides of the walkout vote have shared concerns. It could pose child care difficulties for thousands of families and leave teachers at risk of losing their credentials. How a strike could play out in more than 200 public school districts will vary but could leave hourly workers like custodians without their paychecks.

Beth Simek, president of the influential Arizona PTA, feels the pain of teachers who are torn. Some are concerned about the effect on support staff and what kids might do without classes, she said.

"I know they're toiling with that," Simek said. "I also know they need these raises."

Parents and communities already have been making plans for child care, with some stay-at-home parents stepping up to watch children so other parents can work, she said. Local parent-teacher associations also are putting together food boxes for kids who rely on free breakfast and lunch at school.

"There's been a lot of mobilization at the community level to prepare," Simek said.
High turnover in schools helps fuel teacher walkouts

Teachers themselves could face consequences in this right-to-work state, where unions do not collectively bargain with school districts and representation is not mandatory. The Arizona Education Association has warned its 20,000 members about a 1971 Arizona attorney general opinion saying a statewide strike would be illegal under common law and participants could lose their teaching credentials.

The logistics of a walkout will vary by district. The state's largest, Mesa Public Schools in suburban Phoenix, would close and hourly staffers would not be paid, Superintendent Michael Cowan has said.

The Dysart School District west of Phoenix would "make every effort" to avoid closing schools," but they would have to shut down if too few staff members show up, Superintendent Gail Pletnick has told parents.

Sara Bresnahan, a spokeswoman for the Phoenix Elementary School District, said a walkout is "uncharted territory" but its schools would try to stay open for as many students as possible.

"Some kids will be coming to school and really need a place to be," she said.

Arizona jumped into a movement for higher teacher pay that started in West Virginia, where a strike garnered a raise, and spread to Oklahoma, Kentucky and most recently Colorado.

In response, the governor offered 20 percent raises that drew support from the business community and some school organizations. But others were concerned about finding the money to cover a plan that would cost about $650 million when fully implemented.

The Arizona PTA pulled its support for the proposal, saying its analysis showed the finances were not realistic. An education advocacy group, Save Our Schools Arizona, said it's worried the plan isn't a "sustainable or comprehensive" way to reinvest in schools.
Kentucky governor apologizes after linking teacher protests to child abuse

Legislative budget analysts this week predicted a $265 million deficit in 2020 if the governor's plan is approved. Ducey's office strongly disputes that analysis, saying much of the funding comes from revenue increases.

"Our economy is growing, and rather than government banking away the taxpayers' money, let's get these dollars to our teachers," Ducey spokesman Daniel Scarpinato said in an email Thursday.

Nancy Maglio, a teacher at Magee Middle School in southern Arizona's Tucson Unified School District, said teachers are motivated to walk out and demand funding because of what it means for their students.

"None of us went to school, none of us spent money on tuition, on books, none of us spend our time and our energy to not care," she said. "We went into a field where caring is mandatory."

While Maglio voted in support of the walkout, it wasn't without conflicted feelings.

"I am eagerly anticipating the walkout, but I'm not eagerly anticipating leaving my students," she said.

Geopolitics / 💀 Europe without Europeans
« on: Today at 02:44:42 AM »
The dieoff begins!


Poland: a country deprived of its youth with Brussels wanting to carry out ethnic repopulation

Europe’s native population is not just aging, it is disappearing. The political and financial establishments rely on false official projections. Despite the UN Population Division prognoses that fertility rates will soon rebound to replacement rates, such a phenomenon is nowhere to be seen. In all European countries native populations have extremely low fertility and they are in full decline, and there are no signs that this will change anytime soon. Whatever official statisticians try to make you believe, an increase in fertility and the growth of populations in countries like France, the UK and Sweden is 100% migration related. These are non-refutable facts: plain mathematics. For now about 50% of the migrants in Western Europe come from Central Europe, however that will not be the case for long. Gefira is one of the few research groups that have the capacity to do our own computer-based projections and our findings are disturbing.

Population in Poland has been and certainly will be decreasing because of the low fertility rate (1,36 in 2016) and long-lasting emigration. The Polish state-run Central Statistical Office (GUS) predicted such situation but its forecasts include not only emigration but also immigration mainly from Ukraine and even with people moving to Poland the situation does not look good. The Gefira calculations, excluding migration, forecast 30 million native Poles in 2050 and 13,5 million in 2100.

Cerberus 2.0 calculations and those by GUS diverge. We analysed the demographic phenomena on the basis of the fertility rate and life expectancy, and we left migration out of the equation. Our estimates predict a larger number of Poles by 2028 than GUS does because we include Poles living abroad. After 2028, according to official forecasts, there will be more residents in Poland than the number of native Poles calculated by Cerberus 2.0. This is only possible if more migrants are moving to Poland or there is steep increase in fertility rate. Cerberus 2.0 indicated the decrease in the native population a few years later than GUS but with a faster pace.
The big problem in the whole of Europe is the low fertility rate and Poland had almost the lowest one in 2015.

In 2016 there was growth in the number of births but it was too small and the fertility rate did not change significantly.

The birth rate has been at a dramatically low level for over 15 years (215th place for 224 countries in the CIA World Factbook)1).Currently the number of births is almost by half lower than the values recorded during the last demographic boom in the first half of the 1980s. Fertility declined rapidly through the 1960s, rebounded above 2.1 and sunk far below 1.5 and never rebound.

Analysts expected a growth in birth from the mid-90s of the last century. It would be a natural consequence of the large number of women born in the 1970s entering the highest fertility age but this did not happen.
In the years 2004-2009 the total of births increased a little because the effect of “postponed births”. For 25 years a low number of childbirth was not enough for the generational replacement. According to the GUS the demographic changes are the result of the choice of young people who want to gain education and economic stability first.
The age the most women gave birth has risen since the beginning of this century, which in 2016 amounted to 29.9 years as compared to 26.1 years in 2000. During this period, the average age of birth of the first child also increased from 23.7 to 27.8 years.

But renowned demographers expect this trend to change miraculously.

Since the accession of Poland to the EU Poles have been leaving the country on a monumental scale. The main reasons of emigration are higher earnings and standard of living abroad and opportunity to travel and explore the world.2)Poland is exchanging its youth and its future in return for subsidies and empty highways funded by Brussels.

Those who emigrate are often professionals. Now there is a shortage in Poland among labourers, office technicians and care assistants, the same jobs Polish emigrants do abroad. According to GUS in 2016 the migration balance was positive for the first time in many years. The National Polish Bank, using its own data, announced that there are about 1 million Ukrainians in Poland and this number is rising. It is also estimated that by the end of 2020 some 200-300 thousand Ukrainians will be coming to Poland every year. Official statistics show that more and more Poles come back to Poland. However, are these data correct? Poland is the country of statistical fiction. There is a freedom of movement and not many people report their departure.

The aging society has a negative impact on many important areas from the pension system to health care to the structure of the labour market. And here is the vicious circle: people leave because they are afraid that they will not not be provided for in old age, but leaving they make these problems worse. Small towns suffer most.

A smaller population means a smaller workforce and next fewer workers means lower production and negative economic growth. Companies will have to figure out how to use available human resources. The low birth rate in Poland does not only affect Poland. Many young Poles have emigrated and become a part of the workforce of another country like Great Britain or Germany. now that this inflow is smaller, someone will have to take the place of Polish workers in the countries with. In Western countries, companies are already complaining about a lack of Central European workers. At the same time, unemployment among the young migrants from Syria and Eritrea is about 80 to 90%.

Poland is in a difficult demographic situation. Possible solutions are of course more children and immigrants. As for the first, the government is trying to boost the birth rate with paying 500 zl for every second and consecutive child until they reach 18 years of age. In 2016 maternity leave of 20 and parental leave of 32 weeks were enacted. As for the second solution, immigrants, only those from Europe are welcome. The government do not want to accept people from Africa and Central Asia. A part of the society does not accept immigration from people who have their roots outside Europe. To keep Poland at a stable population of 38 million inhabitants with migrants, the Polish government realize it has to implement an outright repopulation policy that turns Poland into another country. Because the Polish population is in full decline migration means replacement with settlers from Afghanistan, Turkey, Morocco, Nigeria or other countries. About European settlers Noam Chomsky said: “The settler-colonial societies are a striking illustration of, first of all, the massive destructive power”.
European settlers occupied foremost nearly empty land and still liberal intellectuals considered that a horrendous crime. How much more destructive must colonization be when it concerns populated areas as is happening now in Western Europe?

Poland is not popular with Africans or Asians. Social security in Western Europe is three times as high as the minimum wage in Poland. Due to high unemployment among migrants, social security schemes are an important part of the re-population policies in countries like the Netherlands, Germany, France and Sweden.

Poland is simultaneously in the demographic phases typical for developing (such as surplus labour) and developed countries (such as large economic immigration and ageing society)3)The state does not copy the policies of western countries and does not base the future of Poland on immigrants from Africa. Thanks to its rigid migration policy the country will be more united. Poland will preserve its culture and traditions. Even in the case of a black scenario where the population will shrink below the 10 million, it will still be able to rebound and start growing, while at that time countries like France and the UK will have populations that do not consider themselves French or English.

1.      ?      Country comparison: total fertility rate, The World Factbook 2017.
2.      ?      10 najczestszych powodów dzisiejszych emigracji Polaków, Polski Obserwator 2016-08-12.
3.      ?      Demographic Changes in Europe in the 21st Century: Will Poland Become an Immigration State?, ResearchGate 2014-01-01.

Seasteading / Re: Seastead of the Day
« on: April 19, 2018, 07:21:47 PM »

Dead man's boat. This one is probably bought already, at this price (6K). Looks fast and seaworthy, but neglected.

Houston location.  Why don't you buy that one?  It's even cheaper than that other dead man's boat.


The Diner Pantry / 🐦 Doomstead Diner Dinner Special: 4/19/2018
« on: April 19, 2018, 07:00:24 PM »
Today we're visiting the Fowl Family for Doomer Dinner, Pidgeons!  :icon_sunny:  You can think of them like a really skinny Doom Chicken.

The main thing I don't like with hunted birds is they are usually downed with a shotgun.  Makes for a very messy corpse.  If you can nail one with your sling though, this is the way to go.  You would have to be really good though to hit one moving through the air, like Ayla was able to do in Clan of the Cave Bear.  Easier to get if it is sitting on a branch or pecking at seeds you throw out on the ground as bait.


First let's clean tonight's meal

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Now let's EAT!

Thyme infused Pigeon Breast with Medlar & Red Wine

See?  Doomer foods don't HAVE to be gross.  ;D

Doomsteading / Re: C5 Walks into a Diner...
« on: April 19, 2018, 06:41:37 PM »
I'm with RE on this.  The main problem with respect to collapse is community.

I'm working on a new article on this topic.


Doomsteading / Re: C5 Walks into a Diner...
« on: April 19, 2018, 06:31:27 PM »
Four wisdom teeth at once is a tall order.

Nah.  My Mex Dentista pulled 20 of my teeth in one session.


Doomsteading / Re: C5 Walks into a Diner...
« on: April 19, 2018, 01:39:24 PM »
Been reading the Peru story all day between patients and shooting the shit with RE. Interesting stuff.

Not done yet (with patients or reading). I have this super scared black teenage girl I'm trying to get numb for 4 wisdom tooth extractions. She had Xanax. She has nitrous on at 50%. She obviously needs more. Fortunately her Mom is solid as a rock. Maybe we can get through this. And maybe I can walk on water.

You need some of that anaesthetic cocktail they hit me with for the spinal operation.  Totally OUT!  I never even knew when I went unconscious, just woke up in the recovery room a few hours later, all done.


Economics / Re: Lizzie Owns It All - B@@M
« on: April 19, 2018, 12:57:08 PM »
That's a great cornucopia of information.

Next up, the shell corporations for the Holy Roman Catholic Church.  :icon_sunny:


Doomsteading / Re: C5 Walks into a Diner...
« on: April 19, 2018, 12:15:25 PM »
More reduction ad absurdum.

Unless we suddenly get a spike of 3-4 degrees C, I have some time. At some point it will make sense to cash out of a lot of things here, if I'm still sucking air. Before Austin becomes nothing but shifting sand. I will be older, retired, and have no reason to stay. Right now that is not the case.

I do intend to get the old tractors (the IH tractor, the Kubota, and the Allis backhoe) in good repair and sell them. I'll use that money to buy a new backhoe ATTACHMENT for the new tractor. That's my major piece of equipment. Of course, up north, the sawmill would be nice to have, too. Theoretically speaking.

If I weren't working, two or three round trips in a summer wouldn't be that big a deal.

We have no furniture worth worrying about. We have dogs. LOL.

And two of my kids now live within spitting distance of Canada, already.One in Chi Town. One in your old neighborhood in Queens. My new daughter-in-law is a foreign national with no green card. They might leave sooner rather than later.

As I like to say, better a day early than a minute late in the GTFO of Dodge race.  The drier it gets, the less the current Toothstead is worth.  If you are showing a property like that with a lot of dead trees, it won't sell too well.

I forgot your daughter was in Queens.  I'd love it if she took a drive over to my old house and took some pictures, if she has time.  I'll send you the address in PM if she is amenable to this.


Doomsteading / Re: C5 Walks into a Diner...
« on: April 19, 2018, 11:32:16 AM »
Don't be silly. I'd only move useful equipment, not furniture. And it would take multiple trips.

And I'm not talking about after BAU is over and done. I'm talking about the way things are now.

Actually I would not be able to move the backhoe. Too heavy, unless I got a better trailer. But the tractor, no problem. And tools. The essential stuff would be better to transport than to replace.

But, unless climate change ramps up mightily, I don't expect to do it. My kids should do it, though, if they can. It'd be wise, I think. But that's their life, not  mine.

In this case, you then have to replace furniture on the new Doomstead.  There's more expense for you in making the move.  You also get about nothing on the used furniture market when you try to sell the old stuff off. I learned this lesson as an itinerat coach, albeit on a much smaller scale.  If you have a lot of money invested in furnishings, it costs plenty to move them and you can't sell them but for pennies on the dollar.  It's all lost investment.  I pared down the amount of stuff I own of this type because of this, and what I do own is all disposable, used and cheap.

Far as some of your larger equipment goes, here you might be able to recoup some of the investment on the used market, and then just buy a similar unit once you arrive at your new Hoser Doomstead.  This is much easier than moving such things around.  So again, what you have to do is sell out, see how much money you get from your firesale and jump in Pickup truck with maybe one trailer load of prized preps for the move to the new place.  Zipping back and forth from TX to Canada  4 times is not a real practical idea, you would then have to have a place to store all the shit between these trips, which you can't do in a day.

If you don't do it, I doubt your progeny will be able to.  They just won't have the gas to do it with.  They will have to make the best of it with a drying up plot of land in Texas.


Doomsteading / Re: C5 Walks into a Diner...
« on: April 19, 2018, 10:44:50 AM »
I don't think I'll be moving anything. That'll fall on the next generation, most likely. But I could do it, if need be. It'd take 3 or four trips. I'd have to have a new truck and plenty of fuel.

Or maybe a train of covered wagons.

To begin with, to pull a tractor up there, you need a semi with a lowboy.  To pull all the galvanized sheet metal from the storage units, you'll need a flatbed and LD to strap them and tarp it.

Basically, that shit is not going anywhere, it stays where it lays, this generation or the next one.  By the next, the fuel to move it all won't be available to do it with or will be too expensive.

If you really were to buy land in the Great White North, you pretty much have to start from scratch and sell out everything you own in TX to some greater fool.  Hopefully you pull in enough to pay off all the debt before you make the Great Escape.


Let me to say this respectfully and without hurting your feelings...

Okay, you're full of shit.

I can pull everything I own or will own on my 18 ft flatbed or in my 3 yd dump trailer, with a 1 ton pick-up. No problem. trucker boy. I have lots of experience moving equipment.

I pulled my sawmill from East Texas, had a blow-out in Dallas, drove home, got my flatbed, drove back, winched it on to the trailer (by hand, in the middle of the night) and made it to the stead in time to work the next day.

I moved three operatories worth of dental equipment on an 18 ft flatbed, including room size cabinets that had to be double-decked to fit (a large plate glass  window had to be removed to get it all out of the building). I did this all solo, dude, and got it in storage without breaking anything.

If I want to move, it will be done. You can hide and watch. LOL.

Everything you own?  Does that include all the furniture in the McMansion and the Lake House?  How about all your Carz and Motorcycles?  It includes all your battery arrays and solar panels too?  All the fencing you have put up at the Toothstead? Good Grief man, just to move one normal McMansion full of goodies of Industrial Culture takes one of these

You have easily 3-4X the flotsam & jetsam of Industrial Possesions as any halfway normal McMansion Owner.  But YOU can move it all with your trusty 1 ton Ford Pickup from Texas to Canada, no fucking problem.  ::)  lol.'

I will fly down to watch this hilarity.  ;D


Doomsteading / Re: C5 Walks into a Diner...
« on: April 19, 2018, 10:08:49 AM »
I don't think I'll be moving anything. That'll fall on the next generation, most likely. But I could do it, if need be. It'd take 3 or four trips. I'd have to have a new truck and plenty of fuel.

Or maybe a train of covered wagons.

To begin with, to pull a tractor up there, you need a semi with a lowboy.  To pull all the galvanized sheet metal from the storage units, you'll need a flatbed and LD to strap them and tarp it.

Basically, that shit is not going anywhere, it stays where it lays, this generation or the next one.  By the next, the fuel to move it all won't be available to do it with or will be too expensive.

If you really were to buy land in the Great White North, you pretty much have to start from scratch and sell out everything you own in TX to some greater fool.  Hopefully you pull in enough to pay off all the debt before you make the Great Escape.


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