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Doom Psychology & Philosophy / Re: Another Day Another Shooter
« Last post by luciddreams on Today at 06:38:56 PM »
For the deep conspiracy outsider opinion I see your civilian armament buildup as if not planned then part of a vicious circle of justification for ever more police armaments, more violent tactics, more surveillance. By being heavily armed you are justifying a heavily armed response. Play their game... they are much better at it.

That's pretty much my point. 

The revolution will last for about 36 hours.  Some dumb ass motherfuckers high on nutmeg, meth, and glue will show up with their shotguns and AR-15's, and they will shoot a cop, or soldier.  Then the next day the Corporatocracy MSM will blast that shit on the idiot screens and on the Swampbook and KnitTwit feeds, and then it will be over.  The revolution will be "televized." 

The KnitTwit Swampbook knitwhits will ask for some snacks to go with their anal rape, and Uncle Same will moan a sigh of relief as he nuts into the popcorn bowl. 

"Now eat that you dumb ass 'revolutionaries'." 

Don't get me wrong...fuck Big Brother and his menacing plans.  I'm all for freedom.  But like Eddie Griffin say, "it's called freedumb for a reason, if you want somethin' for free then your dumb."  Something like that.

Like I said, Robocop doesn't have pressure points.   
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The Diner Pantry / 🐖 Doomstead Diner Dinner Special: 2/22/2018
« Last post by RE on Today at 06:03:01 PM »
Made generally famous by the Honey Baked Ham company, you can now buy Spiral Sliced Ham at just about every Food Superstore, at least around the Holidays of Thanksgiving and Christmas in the FSoA.  When I was OTR and didn't have time to be the Turkey Cook, I would always buy a Honey Baked Ham as my contribution to Turkey Day Dinner.  Expensive, but I was making good money.  My sister cooked the Turkey in those years.  Her hubby usually got the turkey free as a bonus from his job.  There were three women, a Grandma/Mom/Daughter combo friends of my mom from across the street who would join us and my nephew was married with his first kid.  So it was a pretty big gathering.  That was an annual event for about 5 years during my OTR period.

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Spiral Sliced Ham
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Doom Psychology & Philosophy / Re: Another Day Another Shooter
« Last post by David B. on Today at 05:45:31 PM »
For the deep conspiracy outsider opinion I see your civilian armament buildup as if not planned then part of a vicious circle of justification for ever more police armaments, more violent tactics, more surveillance. By being heavily armed you are justifying a heavily armed response. Play their game... they are much better at it.
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Doom Psychology & Philosophy / Re: Another Day Another Shooter
« Last post by RE on Today at 05:40:19 PM »

At some point in this melee the military fractures, just like it did in the original Civil War between North & South.  Robert E. Lee went to West Point of course.  This bizness will not happen over night.  Then you will have .50 cal BMG vs .50 Cal BMG, Jet vs, Jet and Drone vs Drone.  Until all the hardware has been trashed, and the fight goes Mano-a-Mano or using Trebuchets and Atl-Atls.

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I don't think so.

Lee had the sense to know he couldn't trade pawns with the Army of the Potomac, recent victories notwithstanding. The situation on the ground post Chancellorsville, plus Grant's pressure on Vicksburg which was about to cut the Confederacy in two, led to Lee's decision to strike in Pennsylvania. This per Shelby Foote, anyhow.

Tomorrw's Branch Davidians can empty their armories and not come within a rounding error of trading armaments with the Imperial Army. Which is why Palloy is correct: asymmetrical it is.

Oh certainly, asymmetric warfare will be a big part of the action, of this I have no doubt.  But you will also have increasing militia activity at the same time.  It's a numbers issue.  It really depends mainly on how much activity is going on in how many places?  If it's just one small group of fanatics, they are easily wiped out.  If you have this shit ongoing in all the major cities and on the border with Mejico, it's an entirely different story.  Also quite a different story if the military isn't getting paid in working money.

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Doom Psychology & Philosophy / Re: Another Day Another Shooter
« Last post by Surly1 on Today at 05:32:32 PM »

At some point in this melee the military fractures, just like it did in the original Civil War between North & South.  Robert E. Lee went to West Point of course.  This bizness will not happen over night.  Then you will have .50 cal BMG vs .50 Cal BMG, Jet vs, Jet and Drone vs Drone.  Until all the hardware has been trashed, and the fight goes Mano-a-Mano or using Trebuchets and Atl-Atls.

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I don't think so.

Lee had the sense to know he couldn't trade pawns with the Army of the Potomac, recent victories notwithstanding. The situation on the ground post Chancellorsville, plus Grant's pressure on Vicksburg which was about to cut the Confederacy in two, led to Lee's decision to strike in Pennsylvania. This per Shelby Foote, anyhow.

Tomorrw's Branch Davidians can empty their armories and not come within a rounding error of trading armaments with the Imperial Army. Which is why Palloy is correct: asymmetrical it is.
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Doom Psychology & Philosophy / Re: Another Day Another Shooter
« Last post by RE on Today at 05:19:40 PM »

A united military army against an armed American public would only end with the military winning. However the big difference is the American military would have far less stomach killing fellow Americans than Iraqis. Even with the greatest amounts of propaganda and spin I have doubts that large parts of the military would fire on its own people. What is quite likely is if the military fought against the public is you would get significant defections (say around 30% of the force) and this would be enough to cause a major civil war. Also, and this relates to Iraq, even if the US military won how would the occupation work out? If the US army cannot hold down Afghanistan or Iraq how the hell would they occupy a country the size of the US with a hostile populace? The military industrial complex is a leech and if it attacks its own host it will die rather quickly. A country undergoing a major civil war is a country going through upheaval and ultimately ruin. The country, under such a state, would quickly fracture and the army would split up into various factions as their source of funds (the American taxpayer) dries up.

Monsta gets what nobody else in this forum seems to understand, which is that it's not the Brandon "Lexington & Concord" Smiths who will be fighting the Civil War, although they might start it just like in the "Shot Heard Round the World" in the original Lexington & Concord.  If those guys actually have the guts to follow through with their bluster, they'll end up as Martyrs, and then there will be more similar fights, in the cities between Gang Bangers and the Gestapo and on the border between the Drug Cartels & Gun Runners and ICE and DHS.

At some point in this melee the military fractures, just like it did in the original Civil War between North & South.  Robert E. Lee went to West Point of course.  This bizness will not happen over night.  Then you will have .50 cal BMG vs .50 Cal BMG, Jet vs, Jet and Drone vs Drone.  Until all the hardware has been trashed, and the fight goes Mano-a-Mano or using Trebuchets and Atl-Atls.

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Doom Psychology & Philosophy / Re: Another Day Another Shooter
« Last post by Surly1 on Today at 05:06:09 PM »
You're talking about a direct confrontation between the public and the military - I agree that would be a no contest.
But when the difference between the strength of the parties is great, the weak should use asymmetric tactics - gasoline and matches in the back streets, not confrontation.  And given how different everybody is, you should be thinking about the few MOST committed, not everybody.

If just ONE person started gasoline-bombing banks/government offices, at the very least their fire insurance premiums would go through the roof and they would have to hire security guards to protect every building 24/7, an impossible task.

Alternatively, #itsMYmoney: imagine if a bunch of people were to line up at the ATM, it would start a run on the banks.
Or #fuckcredit : load all your debt onto one card, and then don't pay it off.

Back in hippy days, in Greenwich Village they organised people to buy the newspaper and then post it in the mailbox, jamming all mail in New York City - a sort of pre-internet DDoS.

Hence AR-15s are not needed to fulfill the people's ability to eject their government and the 2nd Amendment should be scraped.

 :emthup: :emthup:
Absolutely correct.

From my seat at ringside, the 2nd Amendment will never be scrapped or even amended. But I suspect there will be a severe reaction to the NRA's prescription for MOAR GUNZ as the solution for every incidence of gun violence. There will be limitations of assault weapons and background checks, or the republicans will be as Carthage ofter the Second Punic War. It will happen as a matter of political self-preservation.
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Golden Oxen Newz / Re: Gold & Silver News
« Last post by Surly1 on Today at 04:59:10 PM »
Obama said there wouldn't be mission creep, and the Pentagon has just reaffirmed that, but now there are forward bases within Syria, US troops embedded amongst the terrorists, fighter jets and bombers in action, and a pseudo-state being carved out.  Not much mission creep there.

 :emthup: :emthup:

No matter what any politician says, the facts are on the ground. And there they are.
If you are not closely tracking shot on the ground in Syria, get some popcorn.
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Doom Psychology & Philosophy / Re: Another Day Another Shooter
« Last post by Palloy2 on Today at 04:57:23 PM »
You're talking about a direct confrontation between the public and the military - I agree that would be a no contest.
But when the difference between the strength of the parties is great, the weak should use asymmetric tactics - gasoline and matches in the back streets, not confrontation.  And given how different everybody is, you should be thinking about the few MOST committed, not everybody.

If just ONE person started gasoline-bombing banks/government offices, at the very least their fire insurance premiums would go through the roof and they would have to hire security guards to protect every building 24/7, an impossible task.

Alternatively, #itsMYmoney: imagine if a bunch of people were to line up at the ATM, it would start a run on the banks.
Or #fuckcredit : load all your debt onto one card, and then don't pay it off.

Back in hippy days, in Greenwich Village they organised people to buy the newspaper and then post it in the mailbox, jamming all mail in New York City - a sort of pre-internet DDoS.

Hence AR-15s are not needed to fulfill the people's ability to eject their government and the 2nd Amendment should be scraped.
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SUN ☼ / 💲 Tax Time!
« Last post by RE on Today at 04:56:47 PM »

Braved a snowstorm today to head for HR Block and get  my personal taxes and the SUN☼ Taxes done.   :icon_sunny:  The dream of the SUN☼ Foundation will live on for another year!  :icon_sunny: :icon_sunny: :icon_sunny:

My own taxes zeroed out, so I owe nothing nor will I get any money back.  Price tag for that return, a cheap $40.  That return is already paid for and filed.

While I pay no taxes, I get a lot of bennies from the rest of you Tax Donkeys!  :icon_sunny:  My Medicare tab is picked up mostly by the taxpayer.  My living quarters are tax subsidized housing.  In reality of course, taxpayers aren't picking up this bill, it's being financed by exponentially increasing debt.  However, Trumpsky's tax plan so far has not negatively impacted me in the slightest.  :icon_sunny:

The SUN☼ taxes are done, but my Tax Pro still has to fill out the SC Charities form.  I did that one last year, but since  I'm paying for her to do the tax forms anyhow, I'm having her do that too.  That makes it very EZ.  Estimated cost for this return, $150-$175.  Also not bad.  Should be able to file that one in the next month or so, and we have until May to get it in, so no problem.  I am ON TASK!  ;D

Now, hopefully this year we can get some more Big Donations! 🤑  Now that we have a Track Record and have raised money, I can go for matching funds Grants from Da Goobermint and the Illumnati.  I'll start searching Grants.gov again.

Open up your Wallets 💰 and help us get the SUN☼ Foundation Building a Better Tomorrow!  Go to the SUN☼ Webpage and click onthe PayPal Button to make your TAX DEDUCTIBLE Donation!

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