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Eddie, the reason I have engaged your erroneous view of Capitalism and americna Anti-Socilist skullduggery before 1947 is not to actually convine you of anything. I just wanted to make it clear to everyone reading here that, as you said, you do not care. I wish you did care. Nevertheless it is refreshing to hear you admit you do not.


Once again you are trying to twist my words. I leave it to any readers who might have a shred of intelligence to figure that out. I expect there are some, but they probably can see that you're a crank too, and won't waste time responding.

That my view is or was erroneous is your take. And I have taken the time to try to explain why I disagree, which is way more than I should have done.

What I don't care about is what silly old cranks think, you included. I do care about the subject material, which should be obvious to anyone who took the time to read what I wrote. It's not hard to follow unless you have real tunnel vision.


That's Ad hom.  :emthdown: :emthdown: I thought you weren't going  to "waste your time". Have a nice day.

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The gentlleman Eddie doth protest too much!

Eddie said, after a long post where in which he assumes my post is directed exclusively at him. That's rather arrogant of you, Eddie.

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But this rant is over for me, and your follow-up, now doubt delivered in a tone even more shrill, must remain unanswered by me. I just don't care enough about what you believe to even waste my time.
Eddie, the reason I have engaged your erroneous view of Capitalism and American Anti-Socialist skullduggery before 1947 is not to actually convince you of anything. I just wanted to make it clear to everyone reading here that, as you said, you do not care. I wish you did care. Nevertheless it is refreshing to hear you admit you do not.

I had other reasons. Many here don't know the history and I  wanted to help them understand it. Capitalism is morally bankrupt. It really bends you out oof shape for me to say that and you take it personally while trying to frame me as the "touchy" hysteric. You shouldn't. You then ascribe all sorts of hatefilled hysteria to me. You shouldn't. I'm for peace, not hate. Capitalism is for hate, division, poverty and war for profit. If you don't believe that, you are wrong.

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As I have previously posted, the historical narrative claims that Hoover used his COINTELPRO tools only AFTER 1947. That is a bold faced lie. Yes, they were more polished and high tech by the 1950's, but they were a rinse and repeat of what Hoover began doing as far back as the early 20th Century, when he fabricated evidence against Anarchists/Socialists/Communists, even before Hoover orchestrated the 1919 First Red Scare. By that time most, if not all of the following heinous tools of repression, were old hat for Hoover, who carefully developed ALL OF THEM.

Hoover was engaged in Eavesdropping, Bogus mail, Black propaganda, Disinformation, Harassment arrests, Infiltrators or agent provocateurs, Bad-jacketing, Fabrication of evidence and Assassinations.

Here's an explanation of each morally bankrupt technique plus some true US history NOT taught in the USA:

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The FBI, in close collaboration with local police units (sometimes called Red Squads ), used a number of techniques in its efforts to disrupt and destroy leftist groups, the most important of which are enumerated here.5

Eavesdropping: This involved not only electronic surveillance, but also putting “tails” on people and breaking into offices and homes, as well as tampering with mail. The FBI's intention was not simply to gather intelligence, but, by making their presence known in various ways, create paranoia among activists.

Bogus mail: FBI agents would fabricate letters, ostensibly written by movement activists, which spread lies and disinformation. The Bureau sent many fake letters to American Indian Movement (AIM) and Black Panther Party (BPP) leaders and activists that were designed to sow confusion and division in the ranks. The Huey Newton and Eldridge Cleaver wings of the BPP, for example, were split after the FBI sent a number of manufactured letters from disgruntled party members to Cleaver, then in exile in Algeria, criticizing Huey Newton's leadership.

Black propaganda: The distribution of fabricated articles, leaflets, etc., that misrepresented the politics and objectives of an organization or leader, in order to discredit the group or individual and to pit people and organizations against each other.

Disinformation: The FBI often released false or misleading information to the press to discredit groups or individuals and to foster tension.

Harassment arrests: The police or FBI often arrested leaders and activists on trumped up charges in order to tie up activists in legal and court proceedings, drain their financial resources, and heighten their sense of fear and paranoia.

Infiltrators or agent provocateurs: The infiltration of organizations by police agents served two purposes. One was to gather intelligence on the group. Provocateurs were used to try and encourage individuals to engage in illegal activity that could then be attributed to the group as a whole; to disrupt the internal functioning of organizations; and to assist in spreading of disinformation inside and outside the group.

Bad-jacketing: This “refers to the practice of creating suspicion-through the spread of rumors, manufacture of evidence, etc.-that bonafide organizational members, usually in key positions, are FBI/police informers.”6 The technique was used to particularly deadly effect inside the American Indian Movement. Talented AIM activist Anna Mae Aquash, for example, who was murdered on Pine Ridge reservation in South Dakota in February 1976, was first subject to a successful whispering campaign, initiated against her by FBI informant Doug Durham, who had joined the AIM chapter in Des Moines, Iowa. Durham's role in AIM also seems to have been to encourage AIM members to engage in “rash, inflammatory acts,” according to author Peter Mathiessen.7 Durham, for example, released “several unauthorized memos, disseminated on organizational letterhead, indicating that AIM was preparing to launch a campaign of 'systematic violence.'”8

Fabrication of evidence: FBI agents, police, and prosecutors routinely fabricated evidence in order to obtain convictions in criminal cases against activists. A number of AIM and BPP activists, including BPP leader Geronimo Pratt and AIM leader Leonard Peltier, who has been in prison for three decades for a crime he did not commit, were convicted on such trumped-up evidence.9

Assassinations: There is ample evidence that FBI and related agencies played a direct role in the assassination of a number of key radical leaders.

Who did COINTELPRO target?

While COINTELPRO was initiated against the Communist Party (CP) in 1956, the program expanded to include civil rights groups and the Trotskyist Socialist Workers Party (SWP) by the time Kennedy became president in 1961 and his brother, Robert, served as attorney general. In fact, Martin Luther King Jr.'s famous “I Have a Dream” speech at the 1963 March on Washington, months before Kennedy's assassination, won him the FBI designation as “the most dangerous Negro in the future of this Nation.”10 President Johnson, while expanding the war in Vietnam and rhetorically battling the war on poverty at home, used the Black inner-city rebellions of the mid-sixties from Watts to Detroit as a pretext to issue “'standing instructions' that the Bureau should bring the 'instigators' of such 'riots' to heel, by any means at its disposal.”11

Among the many targets of COINTELPRO, the most serious attention was paid to those movements that most threatened state interests. The most violent repression under COINTELPRO was used against the Black Panthers, Martin Luther King Jr., Malcolm X, the American Indian Movement, and the Puerto Rican independence movement. It was fueled by the state's need to preserve the near total political and economic disenfranchisement of people of color in the face of the first serious threats to the racial status quo since post-Civil War Reconstruction. The need of the American empire to keep Puerto Rico in its colonial orbit, while it was losing the war in Southeast Asia, drove the violent repression there and against Puerto Rican immigrants in the United States.


http://www.isreview.org/issues/49/cointelpro.shtml



<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/hRBm5eiBQIs&fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/hRBm5eiBQIs&fs=1</a>

Read more: https://www.noi.org/cointelpro/

It is also germaine to this discussion of WHO gets marginalized and WHY in our Capitalist "Paradise" to remember that the "right" to VOTE for women, Native Americans. African Americans AND Puerto Ricans (1916 Jones Act made them citizens so they could be Cannon fodder for WWI), as long as they moved to the continental USA, if they moved to the USA was obtained until IT DID NOT MATTER. That is, the CORK on the maximum number of Representatives in Congress was (illegally -it was NEVER ratified by the required numberof States!) was rammed though in 1911. So, any semblance of a "Democratic" Republic that USA had disappeared into the Capitalist Boardrooms who buy our politiicians to make "laws" for them.

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In addition to setting the number of U.S. Representatives at 435 😈 💵 🎩 🍌[ img]http://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-130418203402.gif[/img]  , the Apportionment Act of 1911 returned to the Webster method of apportionment of U.S. Representatives. Adopted in 1868, Section Two of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution had already removed the three-fifths method of counting slaves, and instead required "counting the whole number of all persons in each State."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apportionment_Act_of_1911


This is an old graphic. A Capitalist RAT has been replaced. But they are still a bunch Capitalist TOADY RATS!

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Its wrong to say Anarchists support socialism, just not soviet style. Capitalists are actually more supportive of Socialism than Anarchists. Anarchists do not want a govt at all, so they definitely don't want a govt to tax them to provide social services. Democratic Socialism actually depends on Capitalism. If they dont have capitalism to tax to provide healthcare, education and social security, it can only be done through communism, for a while. Theres a reason China didnt go down with the Soviet Union and Cuba is doing better without Castro calling the shots, pun intended. Pointing this out doesn't give me an affinity with Mitch Romny either.

Sir, you are splitting Socialist hairs. That part about Anarchists not agreeing to Soviet style Communism, which Anarchists NOW, AT PRESENT, label as "State Capitalism", is not relevant to Anarchist total solidarity with the Socialst movement in the USA, even before the 20th Century began. Had you watched the Columbia University video in my post, the  common ground between Anarchists and Socialists, due to the brutal, dangerous and deadly working conditions in the USA when the 20th Century began, would have been made clear to you.

Hoover was out to GIT the Anarchists BECAUSE they recognized, like the Communists/Socialists, the moral bankruptcy of Capitalism.

The attitude of Capitalists towards ANY economic sytem based on Liberty and Justice for ALL has always been negative, to put it mildly.

Your posts usually concentrate on the negative track record of Socialist/Communist governments while studiously ignoring the massive record of human rights abuse by Capitalist governments, especially our US Fascist Paradise Government. That is a sophistic debating technique. Yes, it is clever but it is fallacious. 

I suggest you try to be more even handed in your comparison of the two systems (yes, there are basically ONLY TWO systems in discussion here). All human run systems are flawed and it is easy to cherry pick the negative aspects of any one of them.

Nevertheless, it is incorrect to claim that Capitalism has the moral high ground over all things Socialist. The exact reverse is true.

The two comments in the following graphic provide Prima Facie evidence that Capitalists=War Loving, Greed Inspired, Conscience Free Predators are the sworn enemies of all things Socialist AND that Capitalism is morally bankrupt.


The only solution is to LEAVE NOW, before the next and final financial crash.

I have considered it. Being in the belly of the beast is no fun at all. But, as many have accurately posted here in regard to said Imperial Capitalist Beast, it's better to hide behnd the spear than to be target practice for it.

I am old. I am weak. My orthostatic hypotension is getting worse, despite the fact that I have a pacemaker for Bradycardia. Ive got to be careful when I lean over for any reason to straighten up slowly to avoid a dizzy spell.

All I can do is live frugally, as an example to others, and expose injustice and inequality based on profit over people and planet with posts here and on my forum while I still have the ability to do so. The Moral Bankruptcy of the Capitalist Powers That Be who presently Dominate the World Economy = Inevitable Collapse FOLLOWED BY a thousand years or so of an overheated planet that humans are NOT adapted to surviving in.

I know, Palloy, it IS a tough world. But, there is no planet B.


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Capitalist Demonization and Violent Abuse of Communists/Socialists/Anarchists in the US before 1947

A spectacular summary. What an amazing thing to find after a week away.

Thank you, Surly. I'm glad to be of service.

The genesis of that post where I put my knowledge of this particular bit of American History together was a discussion between Eddie and I. Since you were gone for a while, here's the back and forth from a few days ago:

Communism wasn't a negative buzzword here before the war. It all changed in about '47.  The exact circumstances of how that changed are of interest to me. I think it was the deliberate work of people like the Dulles brothers and Wild Bill Donovan, the guys who gave us the real Deep State.

In spite of Palloy's assertions that the story is well understood in "other countries", I don't really think that's true, beyond the superficial stuff.

There was a conspiracy at the highest levels. It involved lots of people who probably went to their graves with secrets they never told. Now we'll never know.

I thought it was interesting that Trump backed off on declassifying all the JFK files. There are threads there that somebody might unravel.

Yeah the one group its okay for any American to hate is the communists. We learned that sh it. When the Soviet Union fell, it left a big gap in our "hated enemy" category. So lucky we found al Quaeda and ISIS  before it was too late.


I totally disagree that Communism was not a negative "buzzword" before WWII. You are right about the history after 1947. You are wrong about it before. I know that history well. Palloy's views have nothing to do with my extensive knowledge of American History, sir.

We had troops in Russia after the Communist Revolution. They were not there to provide good will. There is a lot more. If you want chapter and verse about Hoover's activities, I will dig them up. If you want to know what went down right around the the turn of the century (19th to 20th) that was RABIDLY anti-Socialist in this country, I'll dig it up. Remember the "anarchists"? They just wanted to get paid properly for their labor. Their polices were socialist to the core. They were demonized and crushed because they saw through the Capitalist bullshit. The "bombings" attributed to the anarchists was part of that demonization. The real violence was that of our government against them!


Hoover was very busy in the early 20th century MANUFACTURING the First Red Scare on behalf Capitalists who DID NOT want to pay people fair wages. It's too long to quote here, but I learned much about Hoover's skullduggery from reading about Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr., who is famous for all his principled dissents on the Child Labor and Capitalist Cruelty defending Supreme Court (1902-1932). That is NOT taught in American History courses, even in college. You've got to DIG to find the truth. And that truth is the US Government (spare me the FDR talk. He could just barely control the Capitalist Crazies) AND the police were, and still are, anti-Communist/Socialist to the core!

Here are some quotes that somewhat address the issue:

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Capitalist Propaganda BEFORE Bernays!

The First Red Scare was a period during the early 20th-century history of the United States marked by a widespread fear of Bolshevism and anarchism, due to real and imagined events; real events included those such as the Russian Revolution and anarchist bombings. At its height in 1919–1920, concerns over the effects of radical political agitation in American society and the alleged spread of communism and anarchism in the American labor movement fueled a general sense of concern ;).

Now just WHO 💵 🎩do you think was "concerned", if not the Capitalist Business Community🐉🦕 🦖 that OWNED Hoover?

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J. Edgar Hoover, then director of the FBI, was an ardent anti-communist whose influence had perpetuated the first Red Scare. 
 
Hoover and his investigators used espionage tactics of their own to locate potential communists, including wiretaps, surveillance, and infiltrating leftist organizations. The efficiency of the FBI ;) was critical in many high-profile cases.

The following exercise in US Propaganda happy talk totally conveniently misses the FACT that many Americans believed all this hysterical scaremongering because they were lied to about the "Communist threat" by our government, which manufactured it out of thin air.

There WAS NO Communist threat in regard to WAR. The REVERSE was true. Russia wanted to work with us avoid an arms race and nuclear proliferation. Truman knew that and did not give a rat's ass about it. Yeah, there was money to be made by our Capitalist MIC pretending Russia was gonna git us. But, that was just a BAU benefit of our
mens rea modus operandi.

The actual rationale behind BOTH Red Scares was that Socialism threatens Greed Based Capiitalist BAU and therefore must be demonized, period. If you believe otherwise, I must vigorously disagree with you.

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Second Red Scare

The Second Red Scare (1947-1957) was a fear-driven phenomenon brought on by the growing power of communist countries in the wake of the Second World War, particularly the Soviet Union. Many in the U.S. feared that the Soviet Union and its allies were planning to forcefully spread communism around the globe, overthrowing both democratic and capitalist institutions as it went. With the Soviet Union occupying much of Eastern and Central Europe, many in the U.S. perceived their fears of communist expansionism as confirmed. The U.S. also feared that communist agents had infiltrated the federal government. A massive witch hunt to root out communist sympathizers ensued.

http://www.ohiohistorycentral.org/w/Second_Red_Scare

Unions and the robber baron capitalists certainly had some major clashes. But the unions ultimately won a lot...for a while. My father walked the picket lines. I remember his union was on strike for months when I was about 10 years old. It was a tough time.  When I was young I was actually a shop steward in the plant where my Dad worked. I paid union dues. So long ago now, nearly 40 years. Seems like another life.

I'm not questioning your history knowledge. Don't be so touchy.

I'm not saying that the capitalists with their private cops and strike breakers weren't bad guys. I know about Joe Hill and Sacco and Vanzetti, and the IWW and all that. The Haymarket Riots. I took American History too, although none of that stuff was stressed in the curriculum where  I went to school, as you can imagine.

I even read some of Steinbeck's book In Dubious Battle, which is very dark and so sad it made me cry. I never could finish it.

But in the 30's it was cool to be communist if your were an intellectual in say, NYC. That's why the stupid McCarthy hearings were so damaging. There were plenty of people to accuse, and they were guilty, if going to a meeting once or twice made you guilty of something. There was a time during the Depression when socialism looked pretty good to a lot of out-of-work Americans.

But something did change materially around the time of Churchill's famous speech. From that time, there was an intense campaign by the Bernaysians to make sure every American hated communism. It certainly was intentional, and in my view, was the brainchild of someone. And that someone was probably more like one or more of the people Carroll Quigley wrote about. The powers behind the throne. And the guys who started the CIA and founded the USMIC.

If you can point me to a book that covers that part of it, I'd like to see it. I don't think the story has been told, but I could certainly be in error.

A very interesting character in the Red Scare was a well-known radio personality who grew up and lived here. His name was John Henry Falk. He's dead now. There isn't much left of his work, but there are a few bits. This utoob is him going off on Reagan in the late 80's.

He sued the House UnAmerican Activities Committee and finally won, although it was a pyrrhic victory. One of my heroes.



Touchy" has nothing to do with the fact that you have an incorrect view of anti-communist activity in the USA before 1947. You are wrong about that. I have just posted the correct history to prove you are wrong. Yet, you want to discuss my "touchyness", followed by a lot of info that is frankly not relevent to the FIRST RED SCARE, which is the subject you do not want admit you were mistaken about.

Eddie, I know you. You will NOT back down.

I won't waste any more time explaining to you why you are wrong about the "fact" that anti-Communist/Socialist sentiment in the USA "only began after 1947".  Capitalism is the reason for ALL anti-Communist/Socialist sentiment in the USA, even before "Socialism" actually had a NAME! ANY attempt to defend the workers and give them a fair shake after the Industrial Revolution began was BRUTALLY CRUSHED by the Capitalists, period.

The Haymarket Affair is probably the first exposure of an in-your-face Capitalist attack on Socialists. The enmity of Capitalists for employee rights has never abated. I know you don't think so. Therefore, I respectfully must claim that you are wrong. Have a nice day.

I'll dig up some quotes from historical documents tomorrow. You are free to believe what you wish.


Furthermore, the above discussion was an extension of the following discussion:


I think capitalism is a very mixed bag (some very, very bad issues, I do admit) , but people should be allowed to be communist if they want to be. Including West Point cadets.

Including anybody.

What I find abhorrent is the lack of tolerance. Kicking this young man out over his political beliefs is very obviously a clear violation of his rights as guaranteed by the US Constitution. But who cares, right? He's a communist.



First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

------------ Martin Niemoller


Capitalism US Style 🦍 has always been totally intolerant of Communism and any of its Socialist iterations here and abroad. There never has been any freedom in this country to be a Communist/Socialist, unless you plan to live in poverty with your Socialist principles. That is NOT "freedom". Yeah, you are "free" to believe any old thing you want and embrace any "ism" you want, AS LONG AS YOU DON'T CRITICIZE DA PROFITS OF DA BIDNESS.


The hysteria over the "Communist threat to our freedoms" goes all the way back to Hoover, even before that Capitalist Crook became he head of the FBI.

And even decades before that, the tyranny against the Socialists in Chicago (Haymarket arrests and Kangarro Court trials) evidenced the deep hatred and brutal intolerance for Socialism in this country by the business people who NEVER want to be on an equal footing with their employees in regard to pay, no matter how valuable the employee.

The Capitalist DISEASE forces people with high work skills to start their own business, thereby perpetrating the disease. It pits all against all in an insane race to see who pays their employees LESS, rather than motivate people to build a better, more caring society where people look to help each other, rather than stomp each other into the ground for profit.

The reason Italy did not go Socialist after WWII is because our CIA KILLED all the leaders of the movement there. Now Italy is going full fascist AGAIN, thanks to OUR Capitalist Skullduggery.

After WWII, the CIA sent a nice message to France, as well. France was leaning towards Socialst egalitarian policies and our CIA massively overdosed a WHOLE TOWN in France with LSD.
It wasn't to "try the drug out".


There are around ten or more other countries where other anti-socialst murder and mayhem Capitalist skullduggery was practiced. It continues to this day.

The Black Panthers, a NON-VIOLENT (though the propaganda BULLSHIT claimed otherwise) Socialst group were ruthllessly gunned down in various cities in the USA.

The McCarthy era witch hunts against Socialsts/Communists has never really gone away for a Capitalist reason.

Equality of opportunity and payment for work done, the basic idea behind Socialism, is a threat to any greed based system in general, and Capitalism in particular.

Capitalists don't give a rats ass about anybody's "rights". All that lip service about "freedom" is fine and dandy as long as the Socialist doesn't try to unionize da bidness. It's okay in the USA for Socialists to be "noble = poor", but the moment they actively question the bankrupt ethics of Capitalists, they get
Capitalist Police State Crushed.


THAT is the REAL history of Capitalism and Capitalists in the USA.  


Donald Trump is, and always has been, a TRUE REPRESENTATIVE of what Capitalism (which is nothing but dressed up Fascism) is.

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Thank you agelbert for all that.  Tactics used by DHS are rooted in J Edgar's legacy.  I'm sure we only know a few of the dirty tricks that were pulled back then and that is too bad, because some of the despicable tricks from back then continue to be used and not enough people know.

The master of frame narration did no write this because it was a fairy tale he thought up.


Something like the Boston Bombing was pulled off and he was writing about it.  Not directly related to American repressions but skulduggery was well developed back in the day.  Those repressing now are students of the past who fill the jobs created way back then.  They are getting paid to continue the project.  They turn a well worn crank.  Sometimes they activate a crank, or make a new one.[/size]

You are welcome, K-Dog. and thank you for your many posts with graphics that shed light on this and other issues people have been brainwashed to think wrongly about. 

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Capitalist Demonization and Violent Abuse of Communists/Socialists/Anarchists in the US before 1947

Capitalist Demonization and Violent Abuse of Communists/Socialists/Anarchists in the US began in earnest, not after 1947, but in the 1880's. The post WWII Red Scare was a more polished repeat of past nefarious activities against labor for the purpose of destroying labor's ability to successfully demand decent wages and safe working conditions.   

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The US labor movement had emerged as a national force in 1877, the same year Reconstruction came to its anti-climactic end. That year, more than one hundred thousand workers went out on strike in the Great Uprising. Spurred by wage cuts for railroad workers, the wildcat strike announced the working class’ presence as a force in American society.

For capital, it brought flashbacks to the Paris Commune, which had briefly terrorized the entire Atlantic ruling class. In St. Louis, the uprising developed into a general strike that united black and white workers.

The wealthy moved quickly to protect 🦍 their privileges. Militias and private armies battled with strikers across the country, and eventually the National Guard was deployed to put down the strike city by city. Over one hundred workers ultimately died in the fighting, and the strike was crushed.

The Uprising of 1877 set the general pattern for American labor history for much of the rest of the century
. Compared with the rest of the capitalist world, the American union movement remained small and defensive, constantly subject to the threat of violence both legal and extralegal.
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/02/rise-and-fall-socialist-party-of-america


The other general pattern set from that crushed strike was the use of Capitalist owned newspapers to demonize Socialists. Xenophobia was stoked then, as it was in the Haymarket Affair and the First Red Scare and the Second Red Scare by demonizing "foreigner"Socialists/Anarchists/Reds/Communists. Before the infamous McCarthy (the post 1947 Anti-Socialist tool of J. Edgar Hoover) was even born, Anti-Socialst Newspaper Propaganda and the use of the police and the government to physically attack socialists was common.

The Haymarket Affair established the Capitalist PATTERN for the Red Scare, as an excuse to destroy the Socialist inspired labor movement that threatened Capitalist Routine Cruelty.

As the Industrial Revolution's horrendous working conditions and massive accident and death rate increased, labor fought harder to be treated with dignity.

The Capitalist elite in the USA already had the police harassing or even killing who they identified as leaders, but that was not effective enough. They needed a sort of "9/11" to demonize the Socialst movement. The Haymarket Affair began as a protest of the killing and wounding of several workers by the Chicago police the day before. The very LAST THING the workers wanted was to kill police! They were protesting wanton killing by the police!

The Capitalists saw this protest as an opportunity to demonize the Socialist protesters while portraying the police as "martyrs".

For those who think this is a conspiracy theory without merit, ask yourself HOW a person who HAD to have been known, either by the police or by the protesters in order be able to walk casually among them just before he threw the bomb, could NEVER be identified. TPTB DID NOT want that person to EVER be identified because he was an agent provocateur working FOR TPTB, PERIOD.

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U.S. LABOR IN THE 1800S

Strikes by industrial workers were increasingly common in the United States in the 1880s, a time when working conditions often were dismal and dangerous, and wages were low.

The American labor movement during this time also included a radical faction of socialists, communists and anarchists who believed the capitalist system should be dismantled because it exploited workers. A number of these labor radicals were immigrants, many of them from Germany.

HAYMARKET RIOT BEGINS

The May 4, 1886, rally at Haymarket Square was organized by labor radicals to protest the killing and wounding of several workers by the Chicago police during a strike the day before at the McCormick Reaper Works.



Toward the end of the Haymarket Square rally, a group of policemen arrived to disperse the crowd. As the police advanced, an individual who was never identified threw a bomb 💣 at them. The police and possibly some members of the crowd opened fire and chaos ensued. Seven police officers and at least one civilian died as a result of the violence that day, and an untold number of other people were injured.


AFTERMATH OF THE HAYMARKET RIOT

The Haymarket Riot set off a national wave of xenophobia, as scores of foreign-born radicals and labor organizers were rounded up by the police in Chicago and elsewhere. In August 1886, eight men, labeled as anarchists, were convicted in a sensational and controversial trial in which the jury was considered to be biased and no solid evidence was presented linking the defendants to the bombing.

Judge Joseph E. Gary imposed the death sentence on seven of the men, and the eighth was sentenced to 15 years in prison. On November 11, 1887, four of the men were hanged.

Of the additional three who were sentenced to death, one committed suicide on the eve of his execution and the other two had their death sentences commuted to life in prison by Illinois Governor Richard J. Oglesby. The governor was reacting to widespread public questioning of their guilt, which later led his successor, Governor John P. Altgeld, to pardon the three activists still living in 1893.

In the aftermath of the Haymarket Riot and subsequent trial and executions, public opinion was divided. For some people, the events led to a heightened anti-labor sentiment, while others (including labor organizers around the world) believed the men had been convicted unfairly and viewed them as martyrs.

https://www.history.com/topics/haymarket-riot


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The Contested Haymarket Affair: 130 Years Later

Chicago in the post-Civil War decades became a major railroad hub, center of industrial production and heartland engine of unrestrained capitalist development. That rapid expansion was built on the exploitation of a primarily immigrant working class subjected to incredibly long hours, poor pay, and horrific working and living conditions.

The city, through the mid-1870s, was convulsed by a severe economic depression resulting in mass unemployment and wage cuts, working class upheaval and attempts to organize that were met, in turn, with “industrial titan” countermeasures often involving violence and state repression.

By the early 1880s, a loose coalition of local labor organizations led by the reformist Knights of Labor but including the forerunner of the American Federation of Labor and more radical anarcho-communists joined in a call for a nationwide general strike on May 1, 1886 to demand an eight hour day.

Some 80,000 Chicago workers marched through the downtown that day and strikes continued afterward. On May 3rd, police fired upon strikers killing three at the city’s McCormick Reaper Plant. In response, local anarchist federation leaders called for the emergency protest at the Haymarket, at which the bombing occurred.

The “Haymarket Affair” — the bombing, subsequent repression, trial and execution of the “Haymarket martyrs” — had huge ramifications. It influenced the thinking of generations of labor and left activists of every persuasion, and directly shaped the contours of radical and reform strategy and tactics in regard to political action and labor organization for decades.

https://solidarity-us.org/atc/182/p4654/

Capitalism and socialism were sworn enemies WAY BEFORE the 20th century began. The newspapers were almost totally owned by the Capitalists, so they provided the demonizing propaganda against the "evil foreigner" Socialists/Anarchist/Communists. 


The anti-Socialst attacks in England were based on exactly the same Capitalist ideology as they were, and still are, in the USA.

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The thesis, "Anti-Socialism in British Politics, 1900-1922," is an attempt to combine the approaches of intellectual and political history in explaining the development of Conservative Party politics at a crucial period of social and political change.

It pays particular attention to the relationship between political thought and action through the
medium of 'ideology.' It attempts to illuminate this process with an extended case-study of the ideological opposition to 'Socialism' between 1880s and 1920s; it then traces the impact of these ideas to the strategic calculations and policy programmes of the Conservative party.

It concludes by arguing that the ideological character of inter-war Conservatism can be best understood by reference to its resistance to Socialism, and it is through this doctrinal prism that the transformation of the Party into one dedicated to protecting the interests of industrialists and the middle-class, suburban salariat can be best understood.

The thesis examines the processes of ideological innovation and operationalisation by which these interests were appealed to, and also reveals the political constraints which prevented Conservatives making too overt an appeal to the propertyowning classes.

The first half of the thesis is concerned with various intellectual and ideological responses to 'Socialism'; the contents of these critiques are treated as interesting in their own right, but are also related to the demands of a wider political culture, particularly as they were constructed with political needs in mind.

The second half examines the political impact of Anti-Socialism in British politics at local and national level after 1906. It concludes by arguing that the relationship between Conservatism and the free market, limited government ideal of 'liberal' Individualism was closer than sometimes argued, that 'Anti-Socialism' brought the two creeds together, but in the end it was the 'common sense' Conservative modification of the Individualist creed which dominated political rhetoric and helped overcome many of the hidden tensions present in creating a Party for the 'property-owning democracy.

https://ora.ox.ac.uk/objects/uuid:9c80bc93-3fe6-4fa8-a43c-2536084f48f4/download_file?file_format=application/pdf&safe_filename=602325174.pdf&type_of_work=Thesis

Socialism was NEVER about "revolution". In fact, Marx himself claimed they did not have to DO anything to destroy Capitalism, because Capitalist was self-destructive. Marx made it clear (see video at the end of this post) that the actual Revolutionary Force was, and still is, Capitalism, which requires constant upheaval to profit from worker insecurity through unbridled exploitation. Most reading this, like myself, were brainwashed to think that Capitalism wants peace and Socialism/Communism wants war. The exact reverse is true.

The Capitalists Newspapers in the USA had to portray Socialists as evil bomb throwing, violence loving goons in order to successfully demonize them in the eyes of the American public. That massive propaganda effort, laced with Red Scares, began in the 1880's and has not stopped to this day.


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Socialism in the United States began with utopian communities in the early 19th century such as the Shakers, the activist visionary Josiah Warren and intentional communities inspired by Charles Fourier.

Labor activists—usually British, German, or Jewish immigrants—founded the Socialist Labor Party in 1877. The Socialist Party of America was established in 1901.

By that time, anarchism also established itself around the country while socialists of different tendencies were involved in early American labor organizations and struggles which reached a high point in the Haymarket affair in Chicago which started International Workers' Day as the main workers holiday around the world (except in the United States, which celebrates Labor Day on the first Monday of September) and making the 8-hour day a worldwide objective by workers organizations and socialist parties worldwide.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_socialist_movement_in_the_United_States

Newspapers wasted no time jacking up their negative propaganda effots shortly after the 20th Century began.


J. Edgar Hoover came into the picture after the turn of the century. He was actively fabricating trumped up charges against Socialists/Anarchists on behalf of Capitalists. J. Edgar Hoover's skills reached a fever pitch when Woodrow Wilson needed to demonize as "un-patriotic and treasonous" the principled Socialist resistance to the US entering WWI.



This factoid misses the fact that Hoover was rabidly Anti-Socialist well over a decade before 1917.   

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Shaped by the anticommunist hysteria in the aftermath of the successful Russian Revolution of 1917, Hoover took part in the Palmer Raids against radicals and spent the rest of his life in the service of espionage and undermining suspected “subversives” of every sort.
http://www.isreview.org/issues/49/cointelpro.shtml

Hoover's carefullly developed malevolent plethora of tools to attack "subversives", which later provided the COINTELPRO mens rea modus operandi pattern had EVERYTHING to do with defending Capitalism and ZIP to do with his homosexuality and racism, despite the rather convenient historical narrative about Hoover's "motives".

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Contemporary histories tend to focus on Hoover's maniacal egotism and closeted homosexuality to explain his lifelong fixation on repressing minorities who fought discrimination and reds who challenged the status quo.
http://www.isreview.org/issues/49/cointelpro.shtml

The "status quo" Hoover was actually tasked to defend was the Capitalist System, PERIOD.

Hoover was up to his eyeballs in skullduggery for at least a decade before the First Red Scare in 1919. He was routinely fabricating evidence to bring trumped up charges against Anarchists and other Socialists during this period.

When the military draft was instituted by Woodrow wilson Hoover helped round up Pacifists, most of whom were Socialists or Anarchists who, true to Socialist ideology did NOT want war. The Capitalists WANTED the US to enter that war. Do you see how upside down the propagnda against socialists is? THEY are PACIFISTS by ideology. Capitalist are violent warmongers by ideology. Hoover continued to serve loyally the Capitalist System.

The common thread from the 1880's to the present running through ALL this brutallity and mendacious demonizing propaganda against workers who strike and/or are pacifists that did not want to go to war is the Capitalist PROFIT motive.

In 1919, Hoover officially begins practicing this (later called COINTELPRO) style of heinous skullduggery on "subversives", trotting out the First Red Scare for Woodrow Wilson.

What was REALLY behind this Red Scare was the fact that the business community DID NOT want to pay decent wages in the slow period after WWI. The workers weren't having any of that. So, the Capitalists had to divide and conquer them with some hysterical scaremongering pretext. Again, continuing the war against Socialst Ideology while keeping the workers harassed was killing two birds with one Hoover stone for the Capitalists 😈. They laughed all the way to the bank.

And you thought it was about the "Evil Red Russians", didn't you?

Here's one of these to remind you of what Capitalists think of you:

J. Edgar Hoover engaged in Eavesdropping, Bogus mail, Black propaganda, Disinformation, Harassment arrests, Infiltrators or agent provocateurs, Bad-jacketing, Fabrication of evidence and Assassinations. Hoover was a career destroyer, jailer, and when he thought it expedient, a killer for Capitalism.

But Hoover's agenda was embraced by every president he served, including Democrats Harry Truman, John F. Kennedy, and Lyndon B. Johnson.

Here is the sanitized version of history:

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A special division of the Bureau of Investigation—precursor to the FBI—charged with collating all information on leftist radicals was created by Palmer in 1919 in response to the bombs.

J. Edgar Hoover, a Justice Department lawyer at the time, was put in charge of the group. Hoover coordinated intelligence from various sources to identify those radicals believed most prone to violence.

https://www.history.com/topics/palmer-raids

Hello? Socialists and Anarchists were, and still are, PACIFISTS! Hoover invented that "various sources to identify radicals believed most prone to violence" BULLSHIT out of thin air, with no legal grounds whatsoever!

The Capitalist owned newspapers, of course, did their, by now well polished, demonization of all things Communist/Socalist.




Those bombs were NOT the work of pacifists! Hoover was up to his eyeballs in that agent provocateur/fabrication of evidence for at least a decade BEFORE the 1919 Palmer "response" to the bombs.

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Are anarchists socialists?

Yes. All branches of anarchism are opposed to capitalism. This is because capitalism is based upon oppression and exploitation (see sections B and C). Anarchists reject the “notion that men cannot work together unless they have a driving-master to take a percentage of their product” and think that in an anarchist society “the real workmen will make their own regulations, decide when and where and how things shall be done.” By so doing workers would free themselves “from the terrible bondage of capitalism.” [Voltairine de Cleyre, “Anarchism”, Exquisite Rebel, p. 75 and p. 79]

(We must stress here that anarchists are opposed to all economic forms which are based on domination and exploitation, including feudalism, Soviet-style “socialism” — better called “state capitalism” — , slavery and so on. We concentrate on capitalism because that is what is dominating the world just now).

Individualists like Benjamin Tucker along with social anarchists like Proudhon and Bakunin proclaimed themselves “socialists.” They did so because, as Kropotkin put it in his classic essay “Modern Science and Anarchism,” “{s})o long as Socialism was understood in its wide, generic, and true sense — as an effort to abolish the exploitation of Labour by Capital — the Anarchists were marching hand-in-hands with the Socialists of that time.” [Evolution and Environment, p. 81] Or, in Tucker’s words, “the bottom claim of Socialism [is] that labour should be put in possession of its own,” a claim that both “the two schools of Socialistic thought . . . State Socialism and Anarchism” agreed upon. [The Anarchist Reader, p. 144] Hence the word “socialist” was originally defined to include “all those who believed in the individual’s right to possess what he or she produced.” [Lance Klafta, “Ayn Rand and the Perversion of Libertarianism,” in Anarchy: A Journal of Desire Armed, no. 34] This opposition to exploitation (or usury) is shared by all true anarchists and places them under the socialist banner.

For most socialists, “the only guarantee not to be robbed of the fruits of your labour is to possess the instruments of labour.” [Pyotr Kropotkin , The Conquest of Bread, p. 145] For this reason Proudhon, for example, supported workers’ co-operatives, where “every individual employed in the association . . . has an undivided share in the property of the company” because by “participation in losses and gains . . . the collective force [i.e. surplus] ceases to be a source of profits for a small number of managers: it becomes the property of all workers.” [General Idea of the Revolution, p. 222 and p. 223] Thus, in addition to desiring the end of exploitation of labour by capital, true socialists also desire a society within which the producers own and control the means of production (including, it should be stressed, those workplaces which supply services). The means by which the producers will do this is a moot point in anarchist and other socialist circles, but the desire remains a common one. Anarchists favour direct workers’ control and either ownership by workers’ associations or by the commune (see section A.3 on the different types of anarchists).

Moreover, anarchists also reject capitalism for being authoritarian as well as exploitative. Under capitalism, workers do not govern themselves during the production process nor have control over the product of their labour. Such a situation is hardly based on equal freedom for all, nor can it be non-exploitative, and is so opposed by anarchists. This perspective can best be found in the work of Proudhon’s (who inspired both Tucker and Bakunin) where he argues that anarchism would see “[c]apitalistic and proprietary exploitation stopped everywhere [and] the wage system abolished” for “either the workman. . . will be simply the employee of the proprietor-capitalist-promoter; or he will participate . . . In the first case the workman is subordinated, exploited: his permanent condition is one of obedience. . . In the second case he resumes his dignity as a man and citizen. . . he forms part of the producing organisation, of which he was before but the slave . . . we need not hesitate, for we have no choice. . . it is necessary to form an ASSOCIATION among workers . . . because without that, they would remain related as subordinates and superiors, and there would ensue two. . . castes of masters and wage-workers, which is repugnant to a free and democratic society.” [Op. Cit., p. 233 and pp. 215–216]

Therefore all anarchists are anti-capitalist (“If labour owned the wealth it produced, there would be no capitalism” [Alexander Berkman, What is Anarchism?, p. 44]). Benjamin Tucker, for example — the anarchist most influenced by liberalism (as we will discuss later) — called his ideas “Anarchistic-Socialism” and denounced capitalism as a system based upon “the usurer, the receiver of interest, rent and profit.” Tucker held that in an anarchist, non-capitalist, free-market society, capitalists will become redundant and exploitation of labour by capital would cease, since “labour. . . will. . . secure its natural wage, its entire product.” [The Individualist Anarchists, p. 82 and p. 85] Such an economy will be based on mutual banking and the free exchange of products between co-operatives, artisans and peasants. For Tucker, and other Individualist anarchists, capitalism is not a true free market, being marked by various laws and monopolies which ensure that capitalists have the advantage over working people, so ensuring the latter’s exploitation via profit, interest and rent (see section G for a fuller discussion). Even Max Stirner, the arch-egoist, had nothing but scorn for capitalist society and its various “spooks,” which for him meant ideas that are treated as sacred or religious, such as private property, competition, division of labour, and so forth.

https://medium.com/anarchist-faq/a-1-4-83ba7fe75e15

One must never forget that, as the 20th Century begins, the efforts of the Capitalists to keep Socialism weak and defeated intensify.

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The United States thus emerged as a world power with the dynamism of England, the most advanced capitalist power, and the labor relations of Russia, the historical laggard in the economic race.

This combination goes a long way to explaining the supine position of American labor. While theories of “American exceptionalism” often focus on the working class, a more profitable route is to look at the power of the US ruling class, and to look at labor’s various strategies as attempts to deal with it. In this light, the history of the American working class looks a good deal less exceptional.

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/02/rise-and-fall-socialist-party-of-america


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Red Scare and Anti-Radical Violence

One important aftermath of the failed strike wave of 1919, however, was a powerful reaction by government and business against radicals in labor and politics.



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Ascribing the unions' postwar militancy to communist intrigue, Attorney General A. Mitchell Palmer encouraged J. Edgar Hoover, an aggressive young agent of the Bureau of Investigation (today's FBI), to arrest thousands of radicals around the country.


These police actions, combined with private vigilante attacks such as the deadly 1919 raid of American Legionnaires against the Industrial Workers of the World hall in Centralia, Washington, decimated America's radical groups and made the decade safe for free-market capitalism.

https://www.shmoop.com/1920s/economy.html

Socialists were being ACTIVELY and CONTINUOUSLY attacked by Capitalist Oligarchs at the turn of the 20th Century.

Marx put out his Communist Manifesto in 1848. The Capitalists began planning  their attack against all things Socialist in the USA (and England and France and Germany, etc) THEN. The appeal of Socialism is ethical, as Columbia University history professor Eric Foner makes clear in the Video at the end of this post.

Capitalists do not DO "ethical". The only "ethics" that Capitalists practice are "situational ethics", otherwise known as Orwellian ethics. An economic system based on ethical behavior is a threat to Capitalism, which is based on greed, euphemistically defined as "enlightened self interest" 

Consequently, Capitalists have pulled every murderous dirty trick they could think of, from the start, to demonize Socialism. It has never stopped.

The so-called "friendly period" towards Communism and Socialism during the 1930's where many small Socialist and Communist newspapers did okay, though they never came close the New York Time level of circulation, was a lull caused by Capitalists having their Fascist hands full trying to keep FDR from exposing their dirty tricks. Capitalists cause "things to hapen" by BUYING people to commit crimes. Money was very tight during the 1930's, though they did manage to demonize Cannabis for the paper oligarchs and burn down a Chermurgy refinery that made all sorts of things from plant fiber, including plastics. The Big Oil Capitalists did their thing to crush that.

But yeah, the money was too tight go around jailing or shooting Socialists then. Socialists did have a sort of friend in the White House, after all. That probably made anti-Communist routine skullduggery less cost effective. However, it is just wrong to categorize the 1930's as a period "friendly" to Communism. A J. Edgar Hoover Bulldog on a leash might not bite you, but it is a stretch to claim that bulldog is friendly. And YES, friends, Hoover had his finger in every pie you can imagine DURING the 1930's. The Supreme Court loved that bastard.

Had a group of Socialists/Communists entered into a conspiracy to overthrow the US Government, as Campbell's Soup Capitalist Oligarch and a few others DID, said Socialists would have been shot on sight! NONE of those CAPITALIST TRAITORS even went to jail! Hoover didn't do ZIP about it BECAUSE he was ALWAYS a murderous TOOL of Capitalism, PERIOD.

The Depression temporarily weakened the brutal power of Capitalists to wreak havoc with working people who wanted a Socialist System, but Capitalists NEVER respected Communists/Socialists.

The Capitalists, and Hoover right there with them, bided their time to return to the Business as Usual of Demonizing Reds after FDR was out of the picture.

Durng the 1930's there was a LULL in Capitalist anti-Communist activity, NOT a "friendly to Communists/Socialists" activity. 

After WWII, a similar "few jobs and angry workers wanting decent pay" situation, like that which existed after WWI, materialized. So, the Busness Community remembered exactly what good old Hoover did for them back in 1919. It was rinse and repeat time.

In 1947, with 100% approval from Truman, they turned Hoover loose to provide McCarthy with all the fabricated evidence he needed to, once again, keep labor at bay.

McCarthy was not stupid. He knew EXACTLY what he was doing and who (i.e. the business community) he was doing it for . It's ALWAYS BEEN about protecting Capitalist Business profits by Hook AND by Crook.

The following video is innocuous and not inflammatory in the least. Nevertheless, the Erudite Prof says some important things that Brainwashed Capitalist Ideologues do not get about Socialism in general and Marx in particular.

Too bad they won't watch it.

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FEBRUARY 29, 2012

Socialism in Early 20th Century America

Columbia University history professor Eric Foner examines the rise of socialism in America in the early 20th century. He talks about the Socialist Party in New York City and Milwaukee, and looks at the Socialist Party of America presidential campaigns of Eugene Debs ( VIDEO).
https://www.c-span.org/video/?304569-1/discussion-socialism-early-20th-century-america

Have a nice day.

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June 20, 2018

Dear Friend,

Last weekend, I traveled to the Texas-Mexico border to investigate the administration's unconscionable family separation policy. This is what I witnessed:

֍ I saw dozens of children penned in chain link cages silently staring straight ahead. No smiles, no laughter. None of the joy characteristic of children.

֍ I toured a government-run migrant processing facility aptly dubbed the “ice box." Children wrapped in foil-like blankets huddled on floor mats to stay warm. I witnessed three young brothers clinging to each other, as if for dear life.

֍ I met with a group of mothers just separated from their children. When the first began to speak of the pain she was enduring not knowing where her daughter was, the others began to sob as if on cue. One woman told me, “With God’s help, I will be reunited with my baby soon.”

֍ At another facility, I met Andrea who described her treacherous journey to the Texas border while 8 months pregnant. She fled her home in Guatemala after she was targeted for assassination by thugs due to an outstanding loan. The hit was to take place just outside the local hospital right after she gave birth. Her escape to the Texas border took 13 days. Along the way, she gave birth to a beautiful baby girl. At the border she sought political asylum. She and her baby were denied entry and detained.

֍ Inside a windowless former Walmart converted into a cavernous shelter, I saw 1,500 boys warehoused and alone. There was not a parent in sight. They were allowed outside for two hours each day.

֍ I was barred from visiting any of the detention facilities housing girls, or infants and very young children who, in an Orwellian twist, are labeled by the government as “children of tender age.”

Parents in Vermont and around the world have one thing in common:  Each of us will do whatever it takes, at any cost, to protect our kids from harm and secure for them a better future. The parents I met on the border were no different.

Contrary to the president’s tweetstorms, they were not criminals, rapists, or gang members. They were not “animals” as he has asserted. They simply seek a safe haven for their kids free of gang violence, human rights abuses, domestic violence and desperate poverty.

The president's shameful decision to criminalize the act of seeking asylum and separate innocent migrant children from their parents is an atrocity that flies in the face of everything we stand for as Americans: 

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses, yearning to breathe free."

President Trump blamed Congress for his policy, claiming he was merely enforcing existing law and that only Congress could change it. That was a lie.

In a head spinning reversal, he responded today to public outrage over heart wrenching images of children locked in chain link cages on the southern border. It appears that he backed down on his cynical decision to separate innocent migrant children from their parents. While welcome news, the devil is in the details and in his follow through. We must remain vocal and vigilant because too often with this president, what he says is not always what he does.

Since my trip to the border, I have heard from hundreds of Vermonters wanting to know how they can help. First, you can let the president know what you think by calling the White House at 202-456-1111 or 202-456-1414. 

Second, in the days ahead, you can participate in rallies being held in Vermont and across the country.

And finally, you can reach out to friends and relatives in other states. Urge them to call their senators and representatives and demand they vote to prohibit the forced separation of innocent migrant children from their parents so that this never happens again.

The president of the American Academy of Pediatrics called President Trump’s policy "government sanctioned child abuse." I was an eyewitness to the trauma being inflicted on these kids and I will never forget it.

Sincerely,

PETER WELCH
Member of Congress
         
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Unions and the robber baron capitalists certainly had some major clashes. But the unions ultimately won a lot...for a while. My father walked the picket lines. I remember his union was on strike for months when I was about 10 years old. It was a tough time.  When I was young I was actually a shop steward in the plant where my Dad worked. I paid union dues. So long ago now, nearly 40 years. Seems like another life.

I'm not questioning your history knowledge. Don't be so touchy.

I'm not saying that the capitalists with their private cops and strike breakers weren't bad guys. I know about Joe Hill and Sacco and Vanzetti, and the IWW and all that. The Haymarket Riots. I took American History too, although none of that stuff was stressed in the curriculum where  I went to school, as you can imagine.

I even read some of Steinbeck's book In Dubious Battle, which is very dark and so sad it made me cry. I never could finish it.

But in the 30's it was cool to be communist if your were an intellectual in say, NYC. That's why the stupid McCarthy hearings were so damaging. There were plenty of people to accuse, and they were guilty, if going to a meeting once or twice made you guilty of something. There was a time during the Depression when socialism looked pretty good to a lot of out-of-work Americans.

But something did change materially around the time of Churchill's famous speech. From that time, there was an intense campaign by the Bernaysians to make sure every American hated communism. It certainly was intentional, and in my view, was the brainchild of someone. And that someone was probably more like one or more of the people Carroll Quigley wrote about. The powers behind the throne. And the guys who started the CIA and founded the USMIC.

If you can point me to a book that covers that part of it, I'd like to see it. I don't think the story has been told, but I could certainly be in error.

A very interesting character in the Red Scare was a well-known radio personality who grew up and lived here. His name was John Henry Falk. He's dead now. There isn't much left of his work, but there are a few bits. This utoob is him going off on Reagan in the late 80's.

He sued the House UnAmerican Activities Committee and finally won, although it was a pyrrhic victory. One of my heroes.


<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/909rB30uwe8&fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/909rB30uwe8&fs=1</a>


Touchy" has nothing to do with the fact that you have an incorrect view of anti-communist activity in the USA before 1947. You are wrong about that. I have just posted the correct history to prove you are wrong. Yet, you want to discuss my "touchyness", followed by a lot of info that is frankly not relevent to the FIRST RED SCARE, which is the subject you do not want admit you were mistaken about.

Eddie, I know you. You will NOT back down.

I won't waste any more time explaining to you why you are wrong about the "fact" that anti-Communist/Socialist sentiment in the USA "only began after 1947".  Capitalism is the reason for ALL anti-Communist/Socialist sentiment in the USA, even before "Socialism" actually had a NAME! ANY attempt to defend the workers and give them a fair shake after the Industrial Revolution began was BRUTALLY CRUSHED by the Capitalists, period.

The Haymarket Affair is probably the first exposure of an in-your-face Capitalist attack on Socialists. The enmity of Capitalists for employee rights has never abated. I know you don't think so. Therefore, I respectfully must claim that you are wrong. Have a nice day.

I'll dig up some quotes from historical documents tomorrow. You are free to believe what you wish.


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Communism wasn't a negative buzzword here before the war. It all changed in about '47.  The exact circumstances of how that changed are of interest to me. I think it was the deliberate work of people like the Dulles brothers and Wild Bill Donovan, the guys who gave us the real Deep State.

In spite of Palloy's assertions that the story is well understood in "other countries", I don't really think that's true, beyond the superficial stuff.

There was a conspiracy at the highest levels. It involved lots of people who probably went to their graves with secrets they never told. Now we'll never know.

I thought it was interesting that Trump backed off on declassifying all the JFK files. There are threads there that somebody might unravel.

Yeah the one group its okay for any American to hate is the communists. We learned that shit. When the Soviet Union fell, it left a big gap in our "hated enemy" category. So lucky we found al Quaeda and ISIS  before it was too late.


I totally disagree that Communism was not a negative "buzzword" before WWII. You are right about the history after 1947. You are wrong about it before. I know that history well. Palloy's views have nothing to do with my extensive knowledge of American History, sir.

We had troops in Russia after the Communist Revolution. They were not there to provide good will. There is a lot more. If you want chapter and verse about Hoover's activities, I will dig them up. If you want to know what went down right around the the turn of the century (19th to 20th) that was RABIDLY anti-Socialist in this country, I'll dig it up. Remember the "anarchists"? They just wanted to get paid properly for their labor. Their polices were socialist to the core. They were demonized and crushed because they saw through the Capitalist bullshit. The "bombings" attributed to the anarchists was part of that demonization. The real violence was that of our government against them!

Hoover was very busy in the early 20th century MANUFACTURING the First Red Scare on behalf Capitalists who DID NOT want to pay people fair wages. It's too long to quote here, but I learned much about Hoover's skullduggery from reading about Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr., who is famous for all his principled dissents on the Child Labor and Capitalist Cruelty defending Supreme Court (1902-1932). That is NOT taught in American History courses, even in college. You've got to DIG to find the truth. And that truth is the US Government (spare me the FDR talk. He could just barely control the Capitalist Crazies) AND the police were, and still are, anti-Communist/Socialist to the core!

Here are some quotes that somewhat address the issue:

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Capitalist Propaganda BEFORE Bernays!

The First Red Scare was a period during the early 20th-century history of the United States marked by a widespread fear of Bolshevism and anarchism, due to real and imagined events; real events included those such as the Russian Revolution and anarchist bombings. At its height in 1919–1920, concerns over the effects of radical political agitation in American society and the alleged spread of communism and anarchism in the American labor movement fueled a general sense of concern ;).

Now just WHO 💵 🎩do you think was "concerned", if not the Capitalist Business Community🐉🦕 🦖 that OWNED Hoover?

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J. Edgar Hoover, then director of the FBI, was an ardent anti-communist whose influence had perpetuated the first Red Scare. 
 
Hoover and his investigators used espionage tactics of their own to locate potential communists, including wiretaps, surveillance, and infiltrating leftist organizations. The efficiency of the FBI ;) was critical in many high-profile cases.

The following exercise in US Propaganda happy talk totally conveniently misses the FACT that many Americans believed all this hysterical scaremongering because they were lied to about the "Communist threat" by our government, which manufactured it out of thin air.

There WAS NO Communist threat in regard to WAR. The REVERSE was true. Russia wanted to work with us avoid an arms race and nuclear proliferation. Truman knew that and did not give a rat's ass about it. Yeah, there was money to be made by our Capitalist MIC pretending Russia was gonna git us. But, that was just a BAU benefit of our mens rea modus operandi.

The actual rationale behind BOTH Red Scares was that Socialism threatens Greed Based Capiitalist BAU and therefore must be demonized, period. If you believe otherwise, I must vigorously disagree with you.

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Second Red Scare

The Second Red Scare (1947-1957) was a fear-driven phenomenon brought on by the growing power of communist countries in the wake of the Second World War, particularly the Soviet Union. Many in the U.S. feared that the Soviet Union and its allies were planning to forcefully spread communism around the globe, overthrowing both democratic and capitalist institutions as it went. With the Soviet Union occupying much of Eastern and Central Europe, many in the U.S. perceived their fears of communist expansionism as confirmed. The U.S. also feared that communist agents had infiltrated the federal government. A massive witch hunt to root out communist sympathizers ensued.

http://www.ohiohistorycentral.org/w/Second_Red_Scare

 


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ENERGY STORAGE

Residential Batteries Almost Beat Out Utility-Scale Deployments Last Quarter

Home energy storage projects rivaled utility-scale deployments for the first time, according to GTM Research’s latest Energy Storage Monitor.

JULIAN SPECTOR JUNE 06, 2018

Residential storage has been growing in popularity and prominence.

The historically tiny residential energy storage segment won big in Q1 2018, according to the latest deployment data.

Utility-scale projects, the usual workhorse of the energy storage industry, dropped massively compared to last year’s Q1, when the Aliso Canyon procurements came online and set a record for energy capacity. What saved the quarter from historically low performance turned out to be the aggregate growth of all the little systems popping up in customers' homes.

"Residential storage has been growing in popularity and prominence," said Brett Simon, senior analyst at GTM Research. "It’s getting cheaper. Folks are more aware of it and are asking for it. Solar installers are doubling down on it as a new business model." 

Residential deployments beat commercial deployments, 15.9 megawatts to 11.7 megawatts, according to the latest Energy Storage Monitor from GTM Research and the Energy Storage Association. Even more impressively, home batteries rivaled utility-scale deployments, which only clocked in at 16 megawatts.

That’s an unprecedented and jolting development that is worth emphasizing.

Ever since GTM Research began tracking storage deployments in 2013, residential batteries appeared as the faintest of slivers on the industrywide bar graph, nonzero but totally insubstantial.

Now, for the first time, the smattering of a few kilowatts here and there has nearly overtaken the giants of grid-scale mega-projects. That's a result both of the mega-projects not showing up this quarter and the micro-projects swarming into action.

The historically tiny residential energy storage segment won big in Q1 2018, according to the latest deployment data.

Utility-scale projects, the usual workhorse of the energy storage industry, dropped massively compared to last year’s Q1, when the Aliso Canyon procurements came online and set a record for energy capacity. What saved the quarter from historically low performance turned out to be the aggregate growth of all the little systems popping up in customers' homes.

"Residential storage has been growing in popularity and prominence," said Brett Simon, senior analyst at GTM Research. "It’s getting cheaper. Folks are more aware of it and are asking for it. Solar installers are doubling down on it as a new business model."

Dialing into the numbers, it’s clear that California and Hawaii drove this newfound strength with state-level growth that merits no less than the technical designation: "bonkers."

California’s resi sector rose 3,833 percent year-over-year in terms of megawatts, 4,324 percent in terms of megawatt-hours. The fact that energy capacity grew more reflects that these systems are sizing up to hold more duration.


Those two states accounted for 74 percent of the home systems deployed.

Notably, there wasn't any extreme, one-off event driving the surge in residential deployments in the way that the Aliso Canyon procurements did for big projects a year ago. That means that the forces that produced this quarter's outcome — transitions away from solar net metering, new business models with low upfront costs, newfound interest in resilience — will likely continue through the year.

In fact, the first two quarters of storage installations tend to be smaller than the last two, based on how the industry has operated historically. Such a large opening quarter hints at an even bigger second half.

"The residential market this year is going to be over five times the size of the market last year, in megawatt terms," Simon said.

The future looks even brighter, thanks to the California Energy Commission’s newly passed solar PV mandate for new homes starting in 2020. GTM Research calculates that this policy will cause a 26 percent upside in its base-case residential storage projection for 2020 onward.

Bigger doesn't always mean better

Meanwhile, the utterly California-dominated commercial sector continued its zig-zaggy volatility, dropping 53 percent from its record high last quarter. California giveth and California taketh away.

The nature of utility-scale construction lends itself to even more lumpiness in its quarterly swings.

Last quarter, only five projects hit the wires. That said, they managed to deliver the third-highest energy capacity of any quarter, because each new project delivered 4-hour duration.

The only two quarters with more energy deployed included the Aliso Canyon rollout, when Southern California delivered a massive, fast-tracked procurement to deal with a regional gas constraint.

Though quarterly deployments dropped compared to last year, the pipeline for front-of-the-meter storage increased 76 percent in a year, from 9,217 megawatts to 16,196 megawatts.

Overall, the industry is on track to deliver 557 megawatts this year, and GTM expects the annual deployments will hit 3,688 megawatts in 2023, the final year of its projection. That’s up 12 percent or 909 megawatts from the projection last quarter, due to promising developments since that time.

Miscellaneous signs o’ the times:

California has officially pulled ahead of PJM as the largest cumulative storage market. This actually happened before the last quarterly report, but hasn’t gotten a ton of play. PJM kicked off the utility-scale storage industry, but its frequency regulation market has essentially stopped growing. Thus, the baton has passed to California, where a much wider menu of services and market products promise more robust long-term growth. (In the apples-to-apples comparison of just utility-scale, PJM still leads by 100 megawatts.)

All of the utility-scale projects in Q1 had 4-hour duration. So long frequency reg, with your short-duration systems.
Front-of-the-meter battery deployments happened in Florida and Arizona. Texas and California, which led the previous quarter, didn't show up this time.

In the weeds but indicative of a broader trend, the researchers added two new states to the roster that they track quarterly: Colorado and Nevada. Both had promising new policy developments and utility activities to presage a more active storage market in the years ahead.
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Download the free executive summary of the U.S. Energy Storage Monitor here.

https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/residential-batteries-almost-beat-utility-scale-deployments-last-quarter#gs.tn6l9EE


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I think capitalism is a very mixed bag (some very, very bad issues, I do admit) , but people should be allowed to be communist if they want to be. Including West Point cadets.

Including anybody.

What I find abhorrent is the lack of tolerance. Kicking this young man out over his political beliefs is very obviously a clear violation of his rights as guaranteed by the US Constitution. But who cares, right? He's a communist.



First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

------------ Martin Niemoller


Capitalism US Style 🦍 has always been totally intolerant of Communism and any of its Socialist iterations here and abroad. There never has been any freedom in this country to be a Communist/Socialist, unless you plan to live in poverty with your Socialist principles. That is NOT "freedom". Yeah, you are "free" to believe any old thing you want and embrace any "ism" you want, AS LONG AS YOU DON'T CRITICIZE DA PROFITS OF DA BIDNESS.

The hysteria over the "Communist threat to our freedoms" goes all the way back to Hoover, even before that Capitalist Crook became he head of the FBI.

And even decades before that, the tyranny against the Socialists in Chicago (Haymarket arrests and Kangarro Court trials) evidenced the deep hatred and brutal intolerance for Socialism in this country by the business people who NEVER want to be on an equal footing with their employees in regard to pay, no matter how valuable the employee.

The Capitalist DISEASE forces people with high work skills to start their own business, thereby perpetrating the disease. It pits all against all in an insane race to see who pays their employees LESS, rather than motivate people to build a better, more caring society where people look to help each other, rather than stomp each other into the ground for profit.

The reason Italy did not go Socialist after WWII is because our CIA KILLED all the leaders of the movement there. Now Italy is going full fascist AGAIN, thanks to OUR Capitalist Skullduggery.

After WWII, the CIA sent a nice message to France, as well. France was leaning towards Socialst egalitarian policies and our CIA massively overdosed a WHOLE TOWN in France with LSD.
It wasn't to "try the drug out". 

There are around ten or more other countries where other anti-socialst murder and mayhem Capitalist skullduggery was practiced. It continues to this day.

The Black Panthers, a NON-VIOLENT (though the propaganda BULLSHIT claimed otherwise) Socialst group were ruthllessly gunned down in various cities in the USA.

The McCarthy era witch hunts against Socialsts/Communists has never really gone away for a Capitalist reason.

Equality of opportunity and payment for work done, the basic idea behind Socialism, is a threat to any greed based system in general, and Capitalism in particular.

Capitalists don't give a rats ass about anybody's "rights". All that lip service about "freedom" is fine and dandy as long as the Socialist doesn't try to unionize da bidness. It's okay in the USA for Socialists to be "noble = poor", but the moment they actively question the bankrupt ethics of Capitalists, they get Capitalist Police State Crushed.


THAT is the REAL history of Capitalism and Capitalists in the USA.   


Donald Trump is, and always has been, a TRUE REPRESENTATIVE of what Capitalism (which is nothing but dressed up Fascism) is.

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Wow. An ethical congressman? Must have come here through the wormhole from a parallel universe.

I expect a fatal traffic accident momentarily. Perhaps an airplane crash. Train derailment. Something.


That option is certainly open to the bastards that run this profit over planet Capitalist Paradise, but they do not resort to bopping anyone as long as they can buy or brainwash greed loving assholes to keep supporting those destroying the planet in power.

Therefore, Senator Whitehouse won't be bopped any time soon. Too many Americans are blinded by greed to do the biosphere math and actually pay attention to the truth filled presentations of Senator Whitehouse.

Stupid, Insane, Immoral and Totally Unjustified Capitalist Greed won. We are toast.

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Army Discharges West Point Grad Who Promoted Communism

by Tyler Durden

Wed, 06/20/2018 - 12:33

Authored by Commie Bishop via Campus Reform,

The West Point graduate who promoted communism in social media posts last year has officially been discharged from the U.S. Army.

According to Fox News, Spenser Rapone’s resignation was accepted Monday, and he will be leaving the military with an other-than-honorable discharge.


Rapone’s social media posts, including a picture of him wearing a Che Guevara shirt under his military attire, sparked outrage last year, with officials blasting the West Point graduate for his radical political activism.

"The U.S. Military Academy strives to develop leaders who internalize the academy's motto of Duty, Honor, Country, and who live the Army values,” the military academy said in a statement at the time.

“Second Lieutenant Rapone's actions in no way reflect the values of the U.S. Military Academy or the U.S. Army.

“As figures of public trust, members of the military must exhibit exemplary conduct, and are prohibited from engaging in certain expressions of political speech in uniform,” West Point continued.

“Second Lieutenant Rapone's chain of command is aware of his actions and is looking into the matter. The academy is prepared to assist the officer's chain of command as required.”

According to The Daily Caller 🦕, former Democratic congressman from Pennsylvania, Jason Altmire, who nominated Rapone for the elite military institution, also disavowed the former cadet’s actions, calling them “abhorrent.”

“While I strongly support the rights of American citizens to express their opinions, the actions of 2nd Lieutenant Rapone are abhorrent and appear to be in clear violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, in addition to being inconsistent with the values of the United States Military Academy,” the former lawmaker said last year.

“I have no doubt that the U.S. Army will take appropriate action.”

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) welcomed the decision to discharge the West Point graduate, noting that Rapone’s pictures suggest that he supported U.S. enemies.

“While in uniform, Spenser Rapone advocated for communism and political violence, and expressed support and sympathy for enemies of the United States,” Rubio said, as reported by Fox News.

I’m glad  to see that they have given him an ‘other-than-honorable’ discharge.”

According to the news network, Rapone said that he “knew there could be repercussions,” to his actions and that his “military career is dead in the water.”

“On the other hand, many people reached out and showed me support,” he said.

“There are a lot of veterans both active duty and not that feel like I do.”


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"I would encourage all soldiers who have a conscience to lay down their arms and join me and so many others who are willing to stop serving the agents of imperialism and join us in a revolutionary movement," Rapone added.   

Rapone also posted a picture on Twitter Monday showing him giving the middle finger to the sign outside Fort Drum, along with the caption, “One final salute.”


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-20/army-discharges-west-point-grad-who-promoted-communism


This took me back to the days when I wore those uniforms. Shining that tiny breast plate (a token symbol of an ancient large breastplate) was always a chore. You also had to be very careful when you attached it to the white canvas straps that attach to the dummy powder box (a token symbol from the Revolutionary War) because the Brasso polish you used on the breastplate, which comes in contact with the 4 bent metal clasps underneath the breastplate, might stain the white straps (a lot of cadets got demerits for that when we had to wear the full dress gray uniform for parades) :P . You put everything on and THEN carefully positioned the breastplate. Full dress gray is the one with that ridiculous three lines of round gold colored fake buttons in the front. The military just LOVES shiny objects.

I admire the this brave man of conscience, Spenser Rapone 🌟, for realizing the ethical and moral value of Communism and its vast superiority over our ethically and morally bankrupt Capitalist System Cruelty.

I salute him.  

But, I ain't done yet.




This is MY CONSTANT SALUTE to anyone who thinks Capitalism is "the best system".

 
Have a nice Brainwashed Capitalist day.

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