Doomstead Diner Menu => Spirituality & Mysticism => Topic started by: Eddie on January 09, 2014, 03:57:12 PM

Title: Quantum Light Breath
Post by: Eddie on January 09, 2014, 03:57:12 PM
I don't know the whole story on Jeru Kabbal. He's been dead  a number of years, and I never saw him speak or perform. But his guided meditations, which are spoken and backed up with very moving music, are popular in some circles. They are breath work meditations. His onetime student (I think that's right) Richard Bock lives at Harbin Hot Springs, one of my favorite retreat destinations. He usually does QLB on Saturdays and Sundays up there for donations.

He's always good,but there was that one time... I have good memories. He used to do QLB weekends at Harbin, like workshops, back when people had money for workshops. i was always gonna do one and take all my kids, but we haven't done that one. (I should get back to work on that.) But he hasn't been doing that in recent years, I don't think.

My understanding was that Jeru was trying to make something aimed at Westerners that might help them get into a deep meditation without sitting Sadhana. Some teachers of mine used to play it for a morning meditation. It grows on you if you listen to it. Did for me anyway.

Title: Re: Quantum Light Breath
Post by: DoomerSupport on January 09, 2014, 06:25:03 PM
Found a little material on QBL - the old Jeru site (http://oldsite.jerukabbal.com/index2.htm) - enough to relate it to my own experiences.  The western equivalent to "Ultimate Clarity" could be found in "Knowledge and conversation of the Holy Guardian Angel" or the Deity-possession states practiced on certain pagan paths. 

I can certainly see the influence of Krishnamurti on his focusing on the now, but I'm still not certain which type of breathing technique the system uses. 

Title: Re: Quantum Light Breath
Post by: JRM on January 12, 2014, 10:35:11 AM
Thanks for starting this topic, Eddie. I'll order a copy of the CD soon and give it a try.

Haniel,

You said "I can certainly see the influence of Krishnamurti on his focusing on the now". 

Focusing on "the now" is the core or essence of most of the spiritual teachings and traditions that attract me.  Two books I'm reading these days are "New Self New World" by Philip Shepherd [http://philipshepherd.com/book ] and "The Mandala of Being" by Richard Moss [ http://richardmoss.com/ (http://richardmoss.com/) ] . Both of these books emphasize "the now," and I like them both a lot.

''''

I've seen a bumper sticker that says "Meditation isn't what you think".  That's good for a giggle.  And so it is with "the now". Not that we can't both be in "the now" and have thoughts!  But the character, quality and feel of thoughts are different in "the now" than when we're caught up in past and future -- or, at least, seem to be. Our quality of "presence" differs when we're right here, just so.

Only a few times in my life have I been deeply, intensely, fully present. Which is to say, whole.  The difference in quality of experience between being fully, intensely present and caught up in the turbulence of self-division (which covers over and hides 'presence') is quite extraordinary.  But it seems to come down to one thing, mainly. When we're fully, deeply, intensely present we are not experiencing ourselves as something separate or apart from the Cosmic Whole. So the whole sense of "time" -- and everything, really, is different when we're fully present. Radically different.

Philip Shepherd calls the basic confusion/delusion of the non-present state "perseity," which term, as he uses it, means "having independent existence".  As I understand it, when we suffer from "perseity" we cannot be present, because it is but an illusion that seeks to be present (but cannot).  As "interbeing" (Thich Nhat Hahn's term for our real or ultimate condition) we can be truely present. But not as beings apart.

In reality, then, we are ALWAYS fully present. The trick is to realize this. To awaken to it.

And all the teachers of presence say that the way to presence is ... presence.  We have to practice!



Out Of Our heads
Philip Shepherd On The Brain In Our Belly

by  Amnon Buchbinder

http://philipshepherd.com/the-sun/ (http://philipshepherd.com/the-sun/)


"You cannot reason your way into being present. You cannot reason your way into love. You cannot reason your way into fulfillment. If you wish to be present, you need to submit to the present, and suddenly you find yourself at one with it. You submit to love. There’s that great quote from the Persian mystic Rumi: “Your task is not to seek love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.”

Phillip Shepherd
from the above link

.