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Title: The New Nature
Post by: ross on May 04, 2012, 05:45:50 AM
How is your weather changing? What are you noticing about new weather patterns over the last 24 months.

In northern Chicago we're seeing increased frequency of hail storms, which is something I saw maybe once in my life before this past year and have now seen three times in the last year including last night.
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: Jb on May 04, 2012, 06:25:38 AM
Our weather here in Charlottesville has fluctuated. Without going back and actually reviewing the historical record, it's difficult to say this is 'new.' However, I keep a simple garden notebook of what I plant and when, and when I harvest.

I know for sure that this year I planted two weeks earlier than last year because it was so hot. It was also very very dry. We didn't get the early spring rain; we were 2" below normal precipitation and that's after a mild winter. Then we had two nights of near freezing temperatures that really stressed the plants. Now we have some rain and warmer temperatures again; something akin to 'normal.'

This does not bode well in my opinion. It makes gardening / farming difficult and more prone to crop loss, which ultimately I think will lead to price increases and starvation.

Jb
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: JoeP on May 04, 2012, 06:41:12 AM
In the Raleigh area, storms have been more violent and there have been more tornados pass through the vicinity in the past few years.  The heat came on early this year - I had to start mowing zoysia (warm weather grass) six weeks earlier than the "normal" start time.
Title: Summertime in the New Normal: Head NORTH to ALASKA!
Post by: RE on June 30, 2012, 02:19:15 AM
Seven die amid severe heat, storms; millions without power

Looking grimmer by the minute here folks.  The Temps being talked about in this article are getting WAY outta Da Box now.

Clearly not a good time to be in the Lower Latitudes.  Up here, the Summer so far is cooler than average and another farily Wet one as well.

Might be a good time to GTFO of Dodge and Head NORTH to ALASKA!

http://www.youtube.com/v/JSt0NEESrUA

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Seven die amid severe heat, storms; millions without power

A baby and two young boys may be among those who died due to high temperatures

David Goldman  /  AP

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Evelyn Wood fans herself while her daughter Sherri Smith applies a cold towel as they celebrate Wood's 80th birthday in Washington, D.C. on Friday. Both are from both of Wichita Falls, Texas.
 
By Miguel Llanos
msnbc.com

A procession of violent storms hammered the Washington area late Friday, cutting off power to nearly 2 million people and killing two people when trees fell onto a house and a car.

The storms hit Washington, D.C., Maryland and Virginia on Friday night following a day of high temperatures across much of the country. Officials in Tennessee and Missouri were looking into the deaths of five people -- including a baby and two young children -- thought to have been caused by the heat.
 
West Virginia Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin declared a state of emergency after more than 500,000 customers in 27 counties were without power.
 
"The damage from today's storms is widespread and in many places severe," Tomblin said.

"With temperatures near 100 degrees expected this weekend, it's critical that we get people's power back on as soon as possible," he added. "We're committing 100 percent of our state's resources for as long as we need to get this cleaned up."
 
As of 11:25 p.m., Pepco reported 226,012 outages in Montgomery County, Md., 133,160 in Prince George's County and 66,684 in Washington, according to NBC News.

Police in northern Virginia said two people were killed by falling trees. Fairfax County police spokeswoman Mary Ann Jennings said one of the victims was a 90-year-old woman who was asleep in bed Friday night when heavy winds blew a tree onto her house in Springfield.

Another death was reported in Springfield when a tree collapsed onto a car. Jennings also said police were responding elsewhere to reports of a park police officer injured when his car was hit by a tree and an 18-year-old man struck by a downed power line.

The heat wave smothered the central U.S. on Friday spread east -- and for Washington, D.C., that meant topping out at 104 degrees at Reagan National Airport around 5 p.m. ET.

Dead boys had played outside
Heat is suspected to have been the cause of the deaths of two young brothers in eastern Tennessee, Reuters reported. The boys, aged 3 and 5, had been playing outside Thursday. The younger boy died Thursday, and the older boy on Friday afternoon, according to Eric Blach, administrator for the Bradley County Medical Examiner's Office.

In Kansas City, Missouri, city health officials said Friday they were investigating the deaths of three area residents, including a baby boy, to determine if they were heat-related, according to Reuters.

Earlier in the week, a 39-year-old construction worker died at the University of Arkansas.

The nation's capital broke the June 29 record mark by 3 degrees and, with the humidity, it felt like 112, the National Weather Service reported.

The old record of 101 degrees stood for 138 years. Washington's all-time record is 106.
 
Nashville, Tenn., saw 109 degrees on Friday -- smashing its 60-year record by two degrees.
 
Triple-digit temperatures across the Mid-Atlantic were expected to break records elsewhere as well, the weather service reported earlier.

Record-breaking heat will continue into the weekend and possibly through the July 4th holiday, it added, "and overnight lows will struggle to drop below 70."
 
Much of the Mid-Atlantic and Southeast on Friday joined areas in the Plains and Midwest with excessive heat warnings and heat advisories. The Northeast was only slightly cooler.
 
High humidity could make it feel like 119 degrees in some Carolina coastal areas by Saturday afternoon, the weather service stated.
 
On Thursday, Norton, Kan., was the hottest spot in the nation, topping out at 118 degrees, according to the National Climatic Data Center. In all, 22 Kansas locations reached 110 or hotter on Thursday.
 
Over the previous five days, another Kansas town, Hill City, held that hottest spot, reaching 115 degrees on Wednesday.
 
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Coby Baalman via AP
 Ranch hand Terry Moss walks through a parched corn field in Menlo, Kan., on Wednesday. Kansas has seen the worst of the heat wave impacting millions across the U.S.

Story: Heat hub for US is Kansas farm town -- not Death Valley
In Kansas City, Mo., the heat was suspected of contributing to the deaths of a man and an infant, KSHB-TV reported.
 
Meteorologists expect little relief over the next couple of weeks.
 
"This overall pattern looks like it is going to stick around well into July," Alex Sosnowski, a meteorologist with AccuWeather.com, told Reuters.
 Story: One dead, 347 homes destroyed in Colo. wildfire
"It looks pretty much rock solid centered on the Central Plains and Central Rockies over into the Tennessee Valley interior south," Sosnowski said. "It's anchored in there and it's really not going to change much."
 
Sosnowski said temperatures would spike toward 100 degrees from Chicago to Washington, D.C., and possibly New York every now and then, and areas from Colorado to the interior of the Carolinas would have little hope for temporary relief.
 
More than 1,000 temperature records broken in a week

Temperatures will push 90 degrees most days in New York, Washington and Philadelphia the next two weeks, while Denver, Kansas City and the middle of the nation will tend to see high temperatures pushing 100 degrees, he said.
 
The dry conditions and high temperatures have exacerbated wildfires in western states, and have threatened corn crops and stressed livestock in the Central Plains.
Title: Update: Amazon is Down! I repeat, AMAZON IS DOWN!
Post by: RE on June 30, 2012, 02:41:48 AM
Truly, TEOTWAWKI.

RE


Amazon Cloud Goes Down Friday Night, Taking Netflix, Instagram And Pinterest With It

As of 11:21 PM EST Amazon’s Elastic Compute Cloud in North Virginia went down, due to severe thunder storms in the area. The Washington Post reports torrential rains, “scary winds and lightening” and massive power outages in the D.C. area.

Amazon EC2 runs many major websites and services. Netflix, Instagram, and Pinterest have all been taken out of service during the outage. Half an hour later, in the midst of Friday night movie night, Netflix sent out the tweet above. Pinterest showed the following misleading alert, an hour an a half into the outage:



VentureBeat has reported that Instagram, and Ruby platform Heroku (that runs many other sites) were also down.

Here’s the play-by-play: At 11:21 PM EST, Amazon Web Services reported, ”We are investigating connectivity issues for a number of instances in the US-EAST-1 Region.” And at 11:31 EST, it added, ”We are investigating elevated errors rates for APIs in the US-EAST-1 (Northern Virginia) region, as well as connectivity issues to instances in a single availability zone.” By 11:49 EST, it reported that,  ”Power has been restored to the impacted Availability Zone and we are working to bring impacted instances and volumes back online.” But by 12:20 EST the outage continued, “We are continuing to work to bring the instances and volumes back online. In addition, EC2 and EBS APIs are currently experiencing elevated error rates.” At 12:54 AM EST, AWS reported that “EC2 and EBS APIs are once again operating normally. We are continuing to recover impacted instances and volumes.”

As of 1:15 am EST, Netflix appears to be back up and running, but Pinterest, Instagram and Heroku still appear to be down. It was just an hour-and-a-half during peak traffic time for these affected companies, but this event follows a six-and-a-half hour outage on EC2 two weeks ago. And one of the selling points of the Cloud is that there are redundancies to prevent just such occurrences. A small step backwards, perhaps, for cloud computing.

UPDATE: As of 1:50 AM EST, Pinterest was back up.
Title: State of Emergency in West Virginia
Post by: RE on June 30, 2012, 04:53:37 AM
Wow, sounds like the East Coast is REALLY getting HAMMERRED here by Mom Nature!

Nothing today from Surly.  Hope he isn't getting Flooded again.  Check in please if you can Surly.

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State of emergency declared in West Virginia after powerful storms
Published June 30, 2012

The governor of West Virginia declared a state of emergency for the entire state early Saturday morning after powerful evening storms left an estimated 500,000 residents without power.
 
"The damage from today's storms is widespread and in many places severe," said Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin in a statement. "With temperatures near 100 degrees expected this weekend, it's critical that we get people's power back on as soon as possible. We're committing 100% of our state's resources for as long as we need to get this cleaned up."
 
Tomblin urged residents to stay as cool as possible and drink plenty of fluids since the state will be under a hear advisory until 8 p.m. this evening.
 
The West Virginia Gazette-Mail reported damage at Charleston’s Yeager Airport. Strong winds caused a single-engine Cessna to flip over on the tarmac and several large hanger doors were blown off their hinges, the report said.
 
Violent evening storms following a day of triple-digit temperatures wiped out power to more than 2 million people across the eastern United States and caused two fatalities in Virginia -- including a 90-year-old woman asleep in bed when a tree slammed into her home, a police spokeswoman said Saturday.
 
Widespread power outages were reported from Indiana to New Jersey, with the bulk of the service interruptions concentrated on Washington, D.C., and the surrounding areas. Earlier Friday, the nation's capital reached 104 degrees -- topping a record of 101 set in 1934.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/weather/2012/06/30/state-emergency-declared-in-west-virginia-after-powerful-storms/#ixzz1zHCXftt7 (http://www.foxnews.com/weather/2012/06/30/state-emergency-declared-in-west-virginia-after-powerful-storms/#ixzz1zHCXftt7)
Title: The New Nature: Washington Hammerred
Post by: RE on June 30, 2012, 05:15:08 AM
Boy, and Hurricane Season hasn't even begun here yet!  Looks like a good year for tracking the NOAA Website!

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Storms Leave 2 Million Without Power

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
 
Published: June 30, 2012


WASHINGTON — Utility crews were working on Saturday morning to restore electricity to hundreds of thousands of homes and businesses that lost power during a wave of violent thunderstorms.

Utilities reported that more than 2 million customers were without power from Indiana to New Jersey, with the bulk of the service interruptions concentrated on Washington and the surrounding areas. Earlier Friday, the nation’s capital reached 104 degrees — topping a record of 101 set in 1934.

At least two deaths were reported. A police spokeswoman in Fairfax County, Va., Mary Ann Jennings, said the woman in the Springfield, Va., area when a tree fell onto her home while she was sleeping. Police also reported that 27-year-old man, identified Khiet Nguyen, 27, of Burke, Va., was killed during a traffic accident.

The utility that serves Washington, Pepco, reported overnight that 441,000 customers were without power in the District of Columbia and Montgomery and Prince George’s counties, Md. A spokeswoman for the Pepco utility, Myra Oppel, said that it would take several days to restore power to all customers.

Ms. Oppel said Pepco would seek to bring in crews from other states, but that neighboring utilities facing massive outages will also be calling on them.

The power loss comes as the region is bracing for another day of sweltering heat.

“This is very unfortunate timing,” she said, referring to the heat wave. “We do understand the hardship that this brings, especially with the heat as intense as it is. We will be working around the clock until we get the last customer on.”

In addition to Pepco, Dominion Power was reporting 837,000 customers without power, including 460,000 in Northern Virginia. BGE said about 431,000 customers were without power, mostly in Baltimore and nearby counties. Delmarva Power was reporting about 68,000 customers without power in Delaware.

Officials in Montgomery County, Md., said winds in excess of 75 mph had been reported.

A spokesman for the Metro subway in Washington, Dan Stessel, said some Red Line service had been suspended because of the power loss. Delays were reported on the Blue and Orange lines, buses were replacing trains on some routes and crews were busy removing downed trees.

“It has had a widespread effect on the region,” Mr. Stessel said early Saturday. He said about 17 train stations were operating on backup power because of local power losses, but that he did not anticipate service being disrupted on Saturday.

Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin of West Virginia declared a state of emergency after more than 500,000 customers in 27 counties lost electricity.

Several elderly residents from an Indianapolis apartment home were displaced when a tree fell onto a power line, knocking out electricity to the facility, the fire department said. More than 20 residents were taken by bus to a Red Cross facility to spend the night, and others who depend on oxygen assistance were given other accommodations.

In Ohio, the State Highway Patrol said three tractor-trailers blew over on Interstate 75 near Findlay, but no one was injured.

Bryan Jackson, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service in Sterling, Va., said the system that came through the Washington area is known as a derecho, which the weather service describes as “a widespread, long-lived wind system that is associated with a band of rapidly moving showers or thunderstorms.” Although a derecho can produce tornado-like damage, the damage is typically along a mostly straight path.

Mr. Jackson said the storms originated in the Midwest, passed over the Appalachian Mountains and then restrengthened, drawing energy and direction from a ridge of high pressure centered over the southeastern United States.

“It’s one of those storms, it just plows through,” he said. “It’s able to maintain itself and it’s associated with very strong wind gusts. So we have widespread 60- , 70-, 80-, even isolated 90-mile-an-hour, wind gusts associated with it.”

He said the storm toppled trees and damaged structures, in what he called very, very widespread, large-scale damage.”

Earlier Friday, the Washington area broke a record high temperature set almost 80 years ago.

The National Weather Service said that just before 3 p.m., it was 104 degrees at Washington Reagan National Airport. That beats the record of 101 set in 1934.

Baltimore was also experiencing temperatures in the 100s. It was 102 at Baltimore Washington International Thurgood Marshall Airport around 3 p.m. That was shy of the record of 105 set in 1934.

The National Weather Service is predicting sunny weather Saturday and Sunday in the Greater Washington area, with highs in the upper 90s.More showers and thunderstorms are also possible both days.
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: peter on June 30, 2012, 09:15:03 AM
I suspect that the whole Climate Change debate is an attempt to obscure the possibility that there is a weather war going on. I'm not sure if it's different localized factions fighting each other or the illuminati taking on all of humanity. In any case the climate change debate hides from public view the possibility that the current weather is man made.
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: EndIsNigh on June 30, 2012, 04:25:22 PM
Who stands to gain the most from denying climate change science?  Industry and those who benefit from the carbon economy.  I think Occam's Razor is useful here.  The denial among J6P can be simply explained by evasion of responsibility and a desire to continue the American exceptionalism lifestyle.  You present an interesting idea, but it seems overly complex.  Can you provide any corroborating evidence and/or flesh out the motives and capability in more detail? 
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: peter on June 30, 2012, 08:39:19 PM
It's more a gut feeling from information I have seen in my research than anything concrete. I suspect it's a depopulation agenda against humans in general rather that antagonists fighting each other although I have seen articles that suggest such a scenario in detail.

If you start researching Chemtrails and Haarp there is an enormous amount of  information available.

A paper from the US Air Force in 1996, 3 years before chemtrails first appeared.

Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025

A site called Weather Wars http://weatherwars.info (http://weatherwars.info)

I saw these photos a few yeas ago. They are taken by a commercial pilot of other flights in his vicinity. http://weatherwars.info/?page_id=147 (http://weatherwars.info/?page_id=147)

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Trails of Ionizable Barium Salts greatly enhance the electrical conductivity of moisture in the atmosphere. Haarp can put an enormous amount of electrical energy into atmosphere which can be used for modifying the weather or beaming energy to somewhere else on the planet off a lens created in the atmosphere using all the barium salts and aluminum particulate associated with chemtrails. Think earth quakes, and very severe controlled lightning both of which are becoming much more common.

Conducting a weather war under guise of global warming doesn't exclude profiting from the carbon agenda, in fact it enhances the credibility. Global warming was pretty much of a dud media wise so the nomenclature was changed to climate change. For climate change to be believable the climate needs to change. Weaponizing the weather accomplishes that.

Title: DINERS AT GROUND ZERO PLEASE CHECK IN!
Post by: RE on June 30, 2012, 10:36:24 PM
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Still nothing from Surly or Ashvin, both of whom live in Virginia at Ground Zero of this latest "Act of God".  I am concerned as I always am whenever Diners are in the WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME.

Ashvin in particular is just about always Online and connected to the DD Server.  He has more online hours than I do.  He rarely shuts down his computer/net connection.  I can only figure his connection is cut right now.

We are seeing the SAME story as last year with Hurricane Irene, where the Grid got taken down.  Billions spent to rewire everything, and in the words of Ben Lictenstein "Here they come to SELL 'EM Again!"  This wasn't even Hurricane generated, its a Derecho type storm system which comes from straight line winds generated up by the progressive heating of the surface of the Earth  during the daylight hours.  The Storms sweep along in a straight line as night falls and the surface cools, and POW you get your T-storms.

They will spend a week here at least rewiring and getting the HVAC running everywhere again, but man, when ANOTHER set of storms or a Hurricane hit, just how many times can they keep accessing credit to restring those wires?

The stories read all the same about the Elderly who need electricity to keep their Oxygen tanks running in the Nursing Homes,  and just the sweltering HEAT inside everybody's McMansion that is not ventilated well enough without the HVAC running to be livable. "It's like being inside an OVEN." is a popular quotable from J6P in MSM stories.  "We'll be OK though, we have Pool in the backyard."

Yea, OK they can take a dip in that pool for a day or two, but their filtration systems aren't running and the algae and bacteria will find a nice new home there in such conditions.  None of these folks have any CLUE how dependent they are on POWER to run everything they use to live this sort of lifestyle.

Solutions?  Head to the Mall or Public Schools etc where the power is restored first or they have backup generators, or book a Motel Room somewhere that said Motel has Power, and ride it out for a week that way while the wires are restrung and the Transformers reset.  How many are prepared and have common sense enough to GTFO of the Sweatbox McMansion and take a Tent out into the Backyard at least here?  Nope, they will sleep inside the Mcmansion, sweat and dehydrate overnight.

This one is not the one where the Malls will not get their Electricity turned on again, not quite YET here in the FSofA.  Man though, if you cannot read the Writing on the Wall by now, you are just freaking illiterate and deluded.  This system is coming apart at the seams on a daily basis now everywhere we look.

Don't wait too long to GTFO of Dodge.  Better a couple of years early than an hour too late.  The day comes when the Wires do NOT get restrung, about the entirety of Urban and Suburban Amerika is UNLIVABLE.

You are seeing the Previews now, Coming Attractions for the Collapse of Industrial Civilization.

The Big Show is Coming Soon to a Theatre Near You.

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WASHINGTON –  Multiple governors declared emergencies as temperatures rose in the aftermath of powerful storms that swept through the mid-Atlantic region Friday night, resulting in at least 13 deaths and leaving more than three million without power.
 
Under the statewide emergency declaration, Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia and Ohio, can utilize all government resources immediately to help those in need. The District of Columbia also declared a state of emergency.
 
Gov. John Kasich cited widespread power losses in Ohio, utility damages and excessive heat that could create crisis conditions for some Ohioans. State emergency officials say 800,000 to 1 million people still had power outages Saturday morning.
 
West Virginia Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin declared a state of emergency after more than 500,000 customers in 27 counties were left without electricity. Current estimates have 688,000 people without power in the state. Tomblin's office says the state is running out of fuel and they're fearful that they will run out of gas.
 
Also in West Virginia, 232 Amtrak passengers spent Friday night on a train that was blocked on both sides by trees that fell on the tracks..
 
On Saturday night, the train passengers stranded near rural Prince, West Virginia, were loaded into buses after they got stuck at 11 p.m. the previous evening, said Amtrak spokesman Steve Kulm. Kulm said the train bound from New York to Chicago had power, so lights and air conditioning were working. He said that since it's a long-distance train, it was stocked with food and crew members were able to get to town to buy more.
 
Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell said the state had its largest non-hurricane power outage in its history. There are 2.5 million without power.
 
The storm did damage from Indiana to New Jersey, although the bulk of it was in West Virginia, Washington and suburban Virginia and Maryland.
 
Two boys at a New Jersey campsite, ages 7 and 2, killed in a tent when a tree fell early Saturday morning, authorities said.
 
There were six reported deaths in Virginia, including a 90-year-old woman asleep in bed when a tree slammed into her home, a police spokeswoman said Saturday. Another man was killed by a falling tree while watching the storm from his deck and a woman died after she, too, was hit by a falling tree after she got out of her car to observe a downed tree. Both those deaths occurred in Albermarle County, Va. A fallen tree also killed a man driving in Maryland, and another resident was killed in a separate incident. A woman was also killed when a barn collapsed in Ohio.
 
Two were killed in Maryland, one in Ohio, one in Kentucky and one in Washington.
 
Widespread power outages were reported from Indiana to New Jersey, with the bulk of the service interruptions concentrated on Washington, D.C., and the surrounding areas. Earlier Friday, the nation's capital reached 104 degrees -- topping a record of 101 set in 1934.
 
More than 20 elderly residents at an apartment home in Indianapolis were displaced when the facility lost power due to a downed tree. Most were bused to a Red Cross facility to spend the night, and others who depend on oxygen assistance were given other accommodations, the fire department said.
 
The storms, sometimes packing 70 mph winds, toppled three tractor trailers on Interstate 75 near Findlay, Ohio.
 
"Our officers and firefighters are out there with power saws, trying to clear the streets," Jennings said.
 
At least four utility poles fell on a road in Columbus, Ohio, making it too dangerous for people in four cars to get out, police said. One person was taken to a hospital.
 
As of 1 a.m. Saturday, Pepco was reporting 406,000 outages in the District of Columbia and Montgomery and Prince George's counties, Md.
 
"We have more than half our system down," said Pepco spokeswoman Myra Oppel. "This is definitely going to be a multi-day outage."
 
Amtrak suspended its service from Washington, D.C., to Philadelphia due to the storms, at least until mid-morning. Dulles Airport in Northern Virginia reporting some power issues with a computer system that handles airline departure/arrival information.
 
In the Washington, D.C., area, the Metrorail subway trains were returned to their endpoints due to the storms and related damage, officials said.
 
"It has had a widespread effect on the region," Metro spokesman Dan Stessel said early Saturday. He said about 17 train stations were operating on backup power due to local power outages, but that he didn't anticipate service being disrupted on Saturday.
 
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: Jaded Prole on July 01, 2012, 04:07:24 AM
From "ground Zero"  I've seen worse. Here in Norfolk Friday night was a little exiting but most of it missed my neighborhood. Last night not as bad but a tornado reported within 25 or so miles. New weather patterns come with hotter air here in the Ophukacene.  Watching weather patterns develop could be helpful in deciding where it is safest.  We won't always have up to the minute radar and warnings.
Title: Re: DINERS AT GROUND ZERO PLEASE CHECK IN!
Post by: Surly1 on July 01, 2012, 05:16:28 AM
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Still nothing from Surly or Ashvin, both of whom live in Virginia at Ground Zero of this latest "Act of God".  I am concerned as I always am whenever Diners are in the WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME.

Ashvin in particular is just about always Online and connected to the DD Server.  He has more online hours than I do.  He rarely shuts down his computer/net connection.  I can only figure his connection is cut right now.


Can't speak for Ashvin, but I am OK. Went to the OUter Banks for a couple of days to visit a friend and his family, which has been why you haven't had my usual cherubic demeanor grace this space. Also have had to troubleshoot some electrical problems, (two separate problems, one involving a failed breaker, another a failed GPI, some of which was complicated by the fact that with 100+ temps here, Dominion Power has had some instances of outages or partial failure. Or so the electrician tells me. Came back just in time to see the Finger of God cast a line of T-Storms directly on our position...

Apparently while I was out of town the storms generated featured gusts up to 60MPH. Pretty serious storms, but still just another day at the office when compared to hurricanes. Jaded Prole has it right.

You really are enjoying your GIF-maker, aren't you?
Title: Re: The New Nature/add weather
Post by: Surly1 on July 01, 2012, 06:33:48 AM
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A summary of our latest doin's down here.

http://news.yahoo.com/eastern-us-storms-kill-13-cut-power-millions-204808305.html (http://news.yahoo.com/eastern-us-storms-kill-13-cut-power-millions-204808305.html)


WASHINGTON (AP) — Millions across the mid-Atlantic region sweltered Saturday in the aftermath of violent storms that pummeled the eastern U.S. with high winds and downed trees, killing at least 13 people and leaving 3 million without power during a heat wave.

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Power officials said the outages wouldn't be repaired for several days to a week, likening the damage to a serious hurricane. Emergencies were declared in Maryland, West Virginia, Ohio, the District of Columbia and Virginia, where Gov. Bob McDonnell said the state had its largest non-hurricane outage in history, as more storms threatened. "This is a very dangerous situation," the governor said.
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In West Virginia, 232 Amtrak passengers were stranded Friday night on a train that was blocked on both sides by trees that fell on the tracks, spending about 20 hours at a rural station before buses picked them up. And in Illinois, storm damage forced the transfer of dozens of maximum-security, mentally ill prisoners from one prison to another.

In some Virginia suburbs of Washington, emergency 911 call centers were out of service; residents were told to call local police and fire departments. Huge trees fell across streets in Washington, leaving cars crunched up next to them, and onto the fairway at the AT&T National golf tournament in Maryland. Cell phone and Internet service was spotty, gas stations shut down and residents were urged to conserve water until sewage plants returned to power.

The outages were especially dangerous because they left the region without air conditioning in an oppressive heat. Temperatures soared to highs in the mid-90s in Baltimore and Washington, where it had hit 104 on Friday.
"I've called everybody except for the state police to try to get power going," said Karen Fryer, resident services director at two assisted living facilities in Washington. The facilities had generator power, but needed to go out for portable air conditioning units, and Fryer worried about a few of her 100 residents who needed backup power for portable oxygen.

The stranded train passengers spent more than 20 hours on the train after they stopped around 11 p.m. on Friday at a station near rural Prince, W.Va. Brooke Richart, a 26-year-old teacher from New York City, said she was among the stuck passengers. To pass the time, she read half a book, talked to the people around her and took walks outside the train.
"We tried to walk up the side of the mountain to see if anyone could get cell service. We didn't have cell service the entire time we were down there," she said.

Amtrak spokesman Steve Kulm said the passengers were picked up by buses, which departed by 8:20 p.m. Saturday. The buses will travel to the stations along the original route, dropping off passengers along the way.
The stranded passengers on the train bound from New York to Chicago had lights, air conditioning and food the entire time, Kulm said. He wasn't aware of any injuries or health problems.
Richart was traveling to her hometown of Cincinnati. She said the ride had mostly been smooth, with a few delays, before they stopped in Prince. The storm had already passed through by the time they stopped.
She said the train attendants and her fellow passengers were extremely nice — watching each others' children and sharing food.

She said her family had a hard time figuring out where she in conversations with Amtrak customer service representatives. But by the time the buses arrived, her father had also come to pick her up and drive her the rest of the way.
"It gets a little trying," she said. "Thankfully we could go in and out of the train because we were there so long. If you wanted to stretch your legs or take a walk, you could do that."

The storm did damage from Indiana to New Jersey, although the bulk of it was in West Virginia, Washington and suburban Virginia and Maryland. At least six of the dead were killed in Virginia, including a 90-year-old woman asleep in bed when a tree slammed into her home. Two young cousins in New Jersey were killed when a tree fell on their tent while camping. Two were killed in Maryland, one in Ohio, one in Kentucky and one in Washington.

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Illinois corrections officials transferred 78 inmates from a prison in Dixon to the Pontiac Correctional Center after storms Friday night caused significant damage, Department of Corrections spokeswoman Stacey Solano said.
No one was injured, Solano said. Generators are providing power to the prison, which is locked down, confining remaining inmates to their cells.

Utility officials said it could take at least several days to restore power to all customers because of the sheer magnitude of the outages and the destruction. Winds and toppled trees brought down entire power lines, and debris has to be cleared from power stations and other structures. All of that takes time and can't be accomplished with the flip of a switch.

"This is very unfortunate timing," said Myra Oppel, a spokeswoman for Pepco, which reported over 400,000 outages in Washington and its suburbs. "We do understand the hardship that this brings, especially with the heat as intense at is. We will be working around the clock until we get the last customer on."

Especially at risk were children, the sick and the elderly. In Charleston, W.Va., firefighters helped several people using walkers and wheelchairs get to emergency shelters. One of them, David Gunnoe, uses a wheelchair and had to spend the night in the community room of his apartment complex because the power — and his elevator — went out. Rescuers went up five floors to retrieve his medication.

Gunnoe said he was grateful for the air conditioning, but hoped power would be restored so he could go home.
"It doesn't matter if it's under a rock some place. When you get used to a place, it's home," he said.
More than 20 elderly residents at an apartment home in Indianapolis were displaced when the facility lost power due to a downed tree. Most were bused to a Red Cross facility to spend the night, and others who depend on oxygen assistance were given other accommodations, the fire department said.
Others sought refuge in shopping malls, movie theaters and other places where the air conditioning would be turned to "high."

In Richmond, Va., Tracey Phalen relaxed with her teenage son under the shade of a coffee-house umbrella rather than suffer through the stifling heat of her house, which lost power.
"We'll probably go to a movie theater at the top of the day," she said.
Phalen said Hurricane Irene left her home dark for six days last summer, "and this is reminiscent of that," she said.
Others scheduled impromptu "staycations" or took shelter with friends and relatives.
Robert Clements, 28, said he showered by flashlight on Friday night after power went out at his home in Fairfax, Va. The apartment complex where he lives told his fiancee that power wouldn't be back on for at least two days, and she booked a hotel on Saturday.

Clements' fiancee, 27-year-old Ann Marie Tropiano, said she tried to go to the pool, but it was closed because there was no electricity so the pumps weren't working. She figured the electricity would eventually come back on, but she awoke to find her thermostat reading 81 degrees and slowly climbing. Closing the blinds and curtains didn't help.

"It feels like an oven," she said.

At the AT&T National in Bethesda, Md., trees cracked at their trunks crashed onto the 14th hole and onto ropes that had lined the fairways. The third round of play was suspended for several hours Saturday and was closed to volunteers and spectators. Mark Russell, the PGA Tour's vice president of rules and competition, couldn't remember another time that a tour event was closed to fans.
"It's too dangerous out here," Russell said. "There's a lot of huge limbs. There's a lot of debris. It's like a tornado came through here. It's just not safe."
The outages disrupted service for many subscribers to Netflix, Instagram and Pinterest when the storm cut power to some of Amazon Inc.'s operations. The video and photo sharing services took to Twitter and Facebook to update subscribers on the outages. Netflix and Pinterest had restored service by Saturday afternoon.

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Title: Re: DINERS AT GROUND ZERO PLEASE CHECK IN!
Post by: RE on July 01, 2012, 06:49:06 AM
JP! Surly!  You're ALIVE!  YAY!   :multiplespotting:

Now we just need to hear from Watson and our WV Diner, I think that's Mark?

Any flooding this time?

You really are enjoying your GIF-maker, aren't you?

(http://gifsoup.com/view1/3881659/twister-o.gif)
Love it!  It's the Cat's Pajamas!  I'm even considering a Premium Membership so I can make longer and bigger ones without the GIFSOUP watermark on them.  I've got one now for just about every occassion you can think of.  Wait until you get a look at the Guillotine GIFs!  Waiting for the right occassion to unveil them.  :icon_mrgreen:

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Title: Re: The New Nature/It coulda Been Worse
Post by: Surly1 on July 01, 2012, 07:12:43 AM
At least I don't have to deal with this:

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Frances Lukens looks at the tangle of boards and tree limbs piercing her living room ceiling in Lynchburg, Va. on Saturday, June 30, 2012 after a huge oak tree fell directly on the house during a storm the previous night. (AP Photo/The News & Advance, Parker Michels-Boyce)
Title: Re: The New Nature/It coulda Been Worse
Post by: RE on July 01, 2012, 07:47:19 AM
At least I don't have to deal with this

In microcosm, this image represents what we ALL have to deal with, even if it didn't happen to YOUR house today.

How much is is going to cost Francis to repair her house?  Does she have the MONEY to repair it?  Is she Insured against Storm Damage and will the Insurance Company pay off?  What is Francis' McMansion worth now with a Tree in the Living Room?

Anyhoooo, fortunately for you no trees came through your roof this time, but all around the neighborhood power lines are down, tree limbs are everywhere and SOMEBODY gotta pay to clean up that mess.  How do they DO that when about every Municipality out there these days is DEAD BROKE?

Answer:  They get a FEMA Guaranteed LOAN to fund the Clean Up the mess, and then that Loan gets tacked onto your next Property Tax bill.  Until of course you can no longer AFFORD said Tax Bill and walk away from the McMansion.  At which point no matter how high the local Pols raise the taxes, they can't pay off the loan, at which point the Municipality defaults and the liability goes onto the books of the Co-signer, FEMA.

Not sure exactly where FEMA is right now on their funding, but last year after the Hurricanes they were Dead Broke.  So unless they recently got a new injection of Funny Money from Helicopter Ben, they can't pay off on any of the old loans Municipalities already cannot pay off on, much less new ones.

Of course though at the moment for the Banksters, this is about the only situation they WILL hand out a new Loan to someplace, once they get the Guarantee from Da Fed Goobermint on the loan.

So, each new "Act of God" here runs up everybody's Debt a bit more, and the Debt keeps getting consolidated and moved up the line into bigger and bigger vehicles as the smaller ones crash and burn here.  At some point the system Implodes when the last biggest Debtor can't pay up.  In this case that would be Da Fed itself, accumulating $Trillions$ in liabilities on its balance sheet that will never be paid off even by "Printing", because all they do there is create ANOTHER liability.  Until they Naked Print without a liability attached, it can never be paid off. NP of course is what results in Hyperinflation.

Hurricane Season approacheth.  More downed power lines, more liabilities, more debt that will never be paid off. FUBAR.

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Title: Re: The New Nature/Word of the day: derecho
Post by: Surly1 on July 02, 2012, 10:43:25 AM
A new one on me. And I'm an old guy.

(http://blogs.discovery.com/.a/6a00d8341bf67c53ef01676815b6b1970b-pi)
    DC Derecho Disaster Explained

    Analysis by Christina Reed
    Mon Jul 2, 2012 08:50 AM ET


As the millions of people still without power today will attest, that was no ordinary wind storm on Friday.

An event that reportedly happens about once every four years, a fast and furious thunderstorm formed west of Chicago at about 11 a.m. and then raced at speeds upwards of 60 mph in a straight line across Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Virginia, Maryland, and Washington, D.C. and out over the Atlantic Ocean by midnight, according to news reports.

Meteorologists call this kind of straight-lined fast moving thunderstorm a derecho. And this Friday's derecho already has its own wiki page.

Storm Tracker: Killer Storm and Heat, 2M Without Power

Like other thunderstoms, derechos generate power from convective wind gusts formed between pressure systems. But unlike other storms, derechos maintain a forward motion, basically feeding off the interface between the systems in a race that moves the storm at upwards of 50 mph for distances of hundreds of miles.

Storm"Derechos often form along the northern boundary of a hot-air mass, right along or just south of the jet stream, where upper-level winds zip along at high speeds," reported the Seattle Times.
(http://blogs.discovery.com/.a/6a00d8341bf67c53ef017742f005a7970d-320wi)

The record-setting temperatures on Friday clashed with the weather systems over Chicago and the storms that emerged grew in power forming a derecho that the upper-level winds continued push forward as the storm chewed its way through the heat wave.
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: Ashvin on July 02, 2012, 12:35:55 PM
RE,

Thanks for your concern!

I was in WVA over the weekend trying to find a hotel that had power, AC AND running water, but could find none. It was brutal...

Back in RIC, a tree at my parents house apparently just fell over today (3 days after the storm hit)...

but no significant damage around here.
Title: Re: The New Nature/The last weather forecast you'll ever need
Post by: Surly1 on July 03, 2012, 09:17:21 AM
Ashvin, Re, et al...

Here is the upcoming weather report, especially timely in terms of derechos, haboobs, and other artifacts of the global-warming-that-is-not-happening.

A time of the hat to the lovely and resourceful digit93 who alerted me to this bit of VCU tomfoolery:


http://www.youtube.com/v/tVEPvXBEOSE?rel=0
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: Surly1 on July 05, 2012, 09:32:42 AM
Another sign that the apocalypse is here--

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Probably cooler in Alaska, I would wager.
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: RE on July 07, 2012, 12:47:02 AM
Getting a tad bit WARM down there in the MidWest these Days. Maybe the WI/MN Border is not such a Great Choice for the Diner Physical Final Bugout location? North to Alaska? A nice comfortable 67 degrees today in the Mat Valley.  No Nukes here yet either!   :icon_sunny:

http://www.youtube.com/v/JSt0NEESrUA

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Oppressive heat in the Midwest breaks records (http://bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2012/07/06/midwest-can-get-any-relief-from-oppressive-heat/XQOkUWWxEscomjpzsKlO4H/story.html)

People struggle to find relief as even nights are hot

By Corey Williams
Associated Press   
July 07, 2012

Associated Press/Daily Herald

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Jake Wenz in Naperville, Ill., looked for relief from the record-breaking heat this week.

DETROIT — St. Louis, Milwaukee, Chicago, Indianapolis, and several other Midwest cities have broken heat records this week. And with even low temperatures setting records, some residents have no means of relief, day or night.
 
The National Weather Service said Friday that the record-breaking heat that has baked the nation’s midsection for several days was beginning to move into the mid-Atlantic states and the Northeast. But excessive-heat warnings remained in place Friday for all of Iowa, Indiana, and Illinois, as well as much of Wisconsin, Michigan, Missouri, Ohio, and Kentucky.
 
The National Weather Service said it expected heat warnings and advisories to be continued or expanded on Saturday, with the heat largely centered over Ohio Valley and Mid-Atlantic states.

MICHAEL CONROY/ASSOCIATED PRESS
 
In Indiana, the Morse Reservoir was down nearly 4 feet from normal levels.
 
St. Louis hit a record high of 105 on Thursday and a record low of 83 — the second day in a row the city has broken records for both temperatures. Temperatures did not fall below 82 in Chicago, 78 in Milwaukee, and 77 in Indianapolis.
 
“When a day starts out that warm, it doesn’t take as much time to reach high temperatures in the low 100s,” said Marcia Cronce, a National Weather Service meteorologist.
 
St. Louis officials have reported three heat-related deaths in recent days, and officials in the Chicago area said two people there may have died due to heat Wednesday.
 
A coroner in Rock County, Wis., said the death of an 83-year-old woman was definitely due to the heat. In Tennessee, authorities have opened a criminal investigation into last week’s heat deaths of two young brothers.
 
Many cities have tried to help by opening cooling centers and extending the hours for their public pools. In some areas, recent storms have knocked out electricity; about 137,000 people in Michigan were without power Friday as temperatures moved steadily toward the 100-degree mark.
 
Lack of electricity also is likely to compound the misery for many in the storm-ravaged East as the dangerous temperatures move in.
 
It was hot enough to buckle roadways. The Wisconsin State Patrol said the pavement buckled on Thursday on Interstate 90 westbound near Madison and on Interstate 39 northbound near Portage, among other places.
 
Not even the setting of the sun brought respite as temperatures hovered around 90 degrees downtown at 10 p.m.
 
When the air conditioner stopped in Ashley Jackson’s Southfield, Mich., home, so too did normal conversations and nightly rest.
 
“Inside the house it was 91 degrees. . . . I wasn’t talking to anybody. Nobody was talking to anybody,” said Jackson, 23, who works as a short-order cook in Detroit. “We mostly slept, but it was hard to sleep because of the heat. I probably got about four hours of sleep each night.”
 
Some visitors made their way to Chicago’s Millennium Park to splash in the park’s kid-friendly Crown Fountain.
 
“It’s hotter here than it is in Arizona,” said Mary Dominis of Tempe, who brought her daughter along to play in the water. “I came here to visit my family and to get away from the heat of Arizona.”
 
Ruben Davila, 32, of Northern California, was also in Chicago visiting family and at the park seeking some cool relief.
 
“The heat has made it difficult to walk around and view the sites,” said Davila, who was accompanied by his wife and three children.
 
With the National Weather Service’s heat warning for the city lasting until Saturday afternoon, Jean-Claude Brizard, head of the Chicago public schools, canceled all summer school classes Friday.
 
The heat has also taken a toll on agriculture and livestock.
 
Dean Hines, owner of Hines Ranch Inc. in the western Wisconsin town of Ellsworth, said he found one of his 80 dairy cows dead Thursday, an apparent victim of the heat. He said he was worried about the rest of his herd in terms of death toll, reproductive consequences, and milk production.
 
“We’re using fans and misters to keep them cool,” he said. “It’s been terrible.”
 
Elsewhere in the country, communities were coping with the severe thunderstorms. At least two people were killed in Tennessee as a violent storm struck the Great Smoky Mountains National Park.
 
Park spokeswoman Melissa Cobern said a man on a motorcycle was killed as was a 41-year-old woman who was struck by a falling tree.
Title: The New Nature: Baking the Cake in the Lower 48
Post by: RE on July 07, 2012, 10:32:41 PM
Look on the Positive Side here. You won't need any Fuel to cook your food. A Fresnel Lens and you are good to go!

RE

Extreme heat bakes Midwest, parts of East Coast (http://online.wsj.com/article/APdfab87124b854dd8a3df845f7de2b92c.html)
Associated Press

PHILADELPHIA — Highways buckled across the country, the waters of Lake Michigan were unusually warm for this time of year and even a minor train derailment outside Washington was blamed on heat, but the hot weather gripping much of the country only worsened Saturday.
 
Temperatures of more than 100 degrees were forecast in Philadelphia and excessive heat warnings were issued for several states in the Midwest the days of smothering heat piled on, accompanied by severe storms that have knocked out power from Michigan to the East Coast. Most notable was last weekend's sudden and severe storm that drenched the mid-Atlantic region, where thousands remained without electricity a week later. At least 24 deaths have been blamed on the heat, and hundreds of thousands remained without power Saturday, mostly in West Virginia, Ohio and Michigan.
 
One man figured out a way to beat the heat: stay in the car.
 
That was the plan for 60-year-old Roger Sinclair of Batavia, Ill., who was headed home Saturday from Detroit, where he'd spent a few days visiting an old friend and catching Friday night's Tigers game.
 
While he enjoyed the game, a 4-2 Tigers win, the conditions were less than ideal.
 
"It was 97 at the first pitch and still in the 80s at the time of the last out," he said. "It was tough. There was no breeze."
 
Before heading home, though, Sinclair wanted to see a Great Lakes ore carrier make its way through the city's waterways. So, he tracked one down the Detroit River, driving ahead of it and parking on Belle Isle, which sits in the middle of the river between the city and Windsor, Ontario.
 
Sinclair, standing along the riverbank and shielding his eyes from the sun, watched the Algomarine slowly head west.
 
"You just don't see this in Chicago," said Sinclair, a dispatcher at a plumbing company's call center.
 
As the vessel traveled out of sight, he walked to his car.
 
"This is how I've dealt with it the last couple of days," he said. "A lot of time in the car."
 
At New York City's Penn Station, the air conditioning was falling short of full capacity. Amtrak officials have said for weeks that they've been trying to adjust it. The doors were left wide open at a half dozen locations around the two-block-wide underground station.
 
"It's so hot I feel like I want to faint," said Betty De la Rosa, 19, of the Bronx, who was working at a station doughnut shop.
 
Record temperatures were set Friday in several places, including the Indiana cities of Indianapolis, South Bend and Fort Wayne. In central Arkansas, Russellville reached 106 degrees, breaking a record set in 1964.
 
The heat was also blamed for at least 24 deaths.
 
Nine people in Maryland have died of heat-related causes in recent days, the state said. Authorities in Chicago said heat was a factor in six deaths there, mostly among older people. Three deaths in Wisconsin, two in Tennessee and one in Pennsylvania were also reported to be heat-related.
 
In Ohio, a man in his 70s and two women — one in her late 60s, the other in her 80s — were found dead this week, said Dr. Jeff Lee, a deputy county coroner in the central part of the state. He said all three were suffering from heart disease but died from stress caused by high temperatures in their houses. Temperatures inside were stifling, recorded in the 90s in two cases, with windows shut and no ventilation. The houses lacked electricity because of recent power outages.
 
"If they had gotten cooling, we would have expected them to survive," he said.
 
Relief was on the way in the form of a cold front as the weekend ends, but forecasters expected it to bring more severe weather, too.
 
The rain should help dry spells in many places. Much of Arkansas is enduring brown grass and seeing trees lose their green, and farmers in Ohio are growing concerned about the dry conditions, considered among the worst of the past decade.
 
In Chicago, perspiration beaded on the face of street magician Jeremy Pitt-Payne, whose black top hat and Union Jack leather vest weighed heavily as he waited to board a Chicago River water taxi that would take him to his sidewalk stage downtown.
 
"This is part of the character. I'm a magician from Britain," Pitt-Payne said in a British accent. "I may lose the vest by the end of the day."
 
Pitt-Payne has worked throughout Chicago's three-day stretch of triple-digit temperatures. His shows have been shorter and crowds have dwindled from his usual of 50 to about 20 people.
 
His trick for beating the heat? He starts his shows at about 2 p.m. "when the Trump Tower is gracious enough to block out the sun" along his stretch of sidewalk. "That's when I start."
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: agelbert on July 12, 2012, 09:45:26 PM
Video summation of how wild and crazy it is getting out there along with the CEO from Exxon uttering incrementalist BULLSHIT about how we can adapt to this. Perhaps he just believes that renewables are a DROP IN THE BUCKET, UNCOMPETITIVE and have EROI numbers so "low" in comparison to those "great and glorious fossil fuels" that require we phase into them over a 2 or 3 decade period.  After all, that's just how the "world works", RIGHT? Just ask the people at TAE, they'll explain it all to you. :evil4: Fuck yeah, we've got all the time in the world, RIGHT!!?

Welcome to the Rest of Our Lives (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0NrS2L6KcE#ws)
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: agelbert on July 17, 2012, 04:19:25 PM

Quote
Terrifying Video of People Narrowly Escaping Canada Landslide
EPIC mudslide caught on camera [Raw Video] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1cCs-S5EKc#ws)
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: Surly1 on July 17, 2012, 04:58:52 PM
That mudslide was just amaziing! The guy in the red shirt was visibly shaken, and why not? I'd have filled my pants.
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: Karpatok on July 17, 2012, 05:06:28 PM
So keep logging and cutting the trees in British Columbia, especially around lakes like Kootenay and that's what you get. No surprise there.
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: agelbert on July 17, 2012, 07:57:28 PM
We just got whacked in Vermont with fast moving severe thunderstorm with some quarter size hail and 40 to 50 mph winds for a brief period.  :o Here in Colchester we lost power for about an hour but when Green mountain Power tried to bring it back the flickering on off on off on off and lights showing voltage swings was awful and stayed off for another 40 minutes or so until it came back steady now. We had our electronics off with surge protector protection and we had the frig circuit breaker shut off but my wife had the oven on and it acted a little crazy when but thankfully it began to work okay after messing with the timer buttons.

I guess this is the shape of things to come.
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: WHD on July 17, 2012, 10:28:45 PM
I've seen hail here in Minnesota about a dozen times this year so far. Never seen hail more than 2-3 times in any year from April-November. This has been close to if not the hottest July I ever remember. May was the wettest May in the history of Minnesota record keeping. The first half of June was just as wet. We broke high temperature records in March something like 14 days in a stretch of 18 days, and not just breaking them, but shattering them, eighty degrees when we should be getting several heavy wet snowfalls. A record mild and dry winter, last fall and late summer was drought conditions. July 2011 was also blistering hot, as was the second half of June. We didn't see the sun hardly at all from April-mid June, well below normal temperatures and a lot of rain, which screwed up gardens that got fried the rest of the summer. We got 18 inches of snow in one day in December 2010, and then hardly any snow the rest of that winter.

The seasons around here can't be counted on to be like seasons of the past anymore. I used to expect, March would be like march, August like August, etc. I don't take for granted what the weather will be like at any time anymore.
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: agelbert on July 17, 2012, 11:21:38 PM
WHD,
Ditto here in Vermont for just about everything you said. Guys that make their money plowing the snow off of driveways were going broke. March was hot with barely a snow flurry here and there when we usually get an 18 inch hit around St. Patrick's day. I didn't have to go out and roof rake the snow this year at all. That's a first since I bought this house in the year 2000. I kept track of the flowering plants from the crocus all the way to some stargazers coming out now and EVERYTHING is at least 14 days early this year.The tulips came and went really fast because of the unusually high temperatures. The Hollyhocks out now seem to shrivel up a couple of days after they begin to flower rather than remaining in bloom while several below on the stalk open up. It's sad. The foxgloves can't seem to flower but the balloon flowers and flox are doing okay.  a Last fall the first frost was 21 days late. It's dry here but there is no drought as of yet.
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: WHD on July 18, 2012, 08:30:57 PM
agelbert,

Yeah, same with my hollyhocks. My blazing stars are limp in the heat. My poor potatoes look exhausted; though I'm watering them plenty, they look like they should look in September - their cousin tomatoes seem fine. My wild cherries are ripening so fast I can't keep up. My aspargus was three weeks ahead this year, and then petered out as soon as it emerged because it got cool again, unusually cool for awhile. My sand cherries haven't done anything. The only bumper crop has been the wild black cap raspberries, which are in the shade most of the day. Oh yeah, and the plague of Japanese beetles is building again, stripping my grape and bean leaves and my neighbors plum. They were worse, much worse last year, but there are more of them every few days so who knows what's coming yet. Fucking globalization. I'd like to shove those beetles en masse up an international financiers arse.
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: agelbert on July 30, 2012, 12:53:53 PM
WHD,
About those Japanese beetles, we've noticed they aren't as bad as last year. They really love asian lilies and stargazers. I still see some dragon flies around and wish I could have a pond and breed them because dragon flies love to eat Japanese beetles and many other insects. We still have some ladybugs but they have never been able to kill the Japanese beetle larvae effectively. Once the Japanese beetle is a bug, they are too big for a lady bug larvae to kill and eat.

I haven't mentioned it but every year since I have been here (1997) I had observed large flocks (50 plus) of small birds land in the leaf litter areas in wooded areas nearby in the late spring and go to town eating something. I don't know if it was June bug larvae, slugs or what but for two years the large flocks have disappeared. There are birds around but there are fewer of them. And if I saw two June bugs this year, it was a lot. There used to be hundreds of them dive bombing around the porch lights at night in June. The woods are definitely quieter although the ravens can make quite a racket sometimes. Another strange thing is the lack of carpenter ants. I hardly see them any more. It used to be impossible to go out on the back porch and not see a few out there. About 15 feet behind the house, where we have a tulip, Jetfire daffodil and Day Lillie patch, there used to be an endless colony of them in the ground mixed (really) which some other, smaller type of ant colony (not fire ants) that was even larger in the ground apparently connected to an old rotting tree stump a few yards into the woods. They are all gone. We have never tried to kill them. They help aerate the soil. The only thing I can think of is that somehow the flooding from the 2011 spring made them move to higher ground (we had about 2 inches of water under one half of the house). Why haven't they come back? Has that radionuclide rain that we have been having (it's less intense but it has not stopped) from Fukushima started killing the ants?

What happened to the ants? Has anybody else noticed there are fewer ants?

Is this the new normal (FEWER living things)?
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: WHD on July 30, 2012, 06:48:15 PM
agelbert,

I have noticed fewer Japanese beetles this year, but they have still been a menace, and I never remember noticing them before last year. Haven't seen many asian beetles, the ladybug like ones, or another bug, a red and black thing, I forget what it's called, which has always been numerous around here. No shortage of hornets though, nor of bumblebees, and the ants are more than numerous. The blessed lacewings too, more than I've ever seen, and a corresponding absence of aphids gnawing on my swamp milkweed, which has always been a problem

The bug situation does seem to shift radically year to year, just as the weather, though. It doesn't seem a lessening of bugs, necessarily, but definitely radical shifts in type and number, with the radically shifting conditions.

I did see a pair of cicada getting it on. And another, emerging from it's carapace. That was way cool.

Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: agelbert on July 30, 2012, 07:03:31 PM
WHD,
Thanks for the info. Maybe the lack of ants is just a temporary situation.

Getting back to the birds, we are right under a big migration corridor for geese. I'll report here when they start to go north.

Ross,
You started this thread some time ago. Have you noticed anything to report in your area recently?

Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: WHD on August 01, 2012, 09:02:26 AM
All day yesterday, I was listening to the radio, and all day, the reports were saying it would be about 90 degrees today. I wake up this morning, and the first thing I hear is "99 for a high today, with a heat index of 104."
Title: Golfers Adapt to The New Nature
Post by: RE on August 08, 2012, 03:08:38 AM
Of all the problems which face us today from Climate Change, none is more Pressing and Important than the ones faced by Tiger Woods and Phil Mickelson as the Tee Up to the First Hole in the PGA Championship.

The Fortitude and Concentration these Brave Men exhibit when faced with High Winds knocking their Golf Balls off the Tee is astounding. You thought Postmen were Tough for facing Wind and Rain and Snow to Deliver the Mail?  These Brave, Tough and Skillful Athletes will Deliver a Golfball to a Tiny Hole 350 yards away even in a Fucking HURRICANE!  Sometimes even making PAR! UN-FUCKING BELIEVABLE! What SKILL!  What DETERMINATION! Mere Mortals could not aspire to such things, these Golfers are GODS!

(http://blog.mlive.com/outofbounds/2008/02/large_tiger04.jpg)
I am Humbled by the Achievements of Golfers who can negotiate 18 Holes in a Hurricane. 30 MPH Winds, Lighting and Driving Rain are just Par for the Course for these Amazing Athletes.I have evenhad the extreme PRIVILEDGE of watching one of these Golf Ball Warriors swing his Big Bertha Callaway Driver and hit smack on target in an F5 Simpson Scale Tornado and the drive shot flew 50 MILES before touching town again to Earth, a HOLE IN ONE on another Golf Course!

Climate Change is a challenge, but theGolfers are Up to It and leading the way!!  Their Bravery and Adpatability to changing cirucmstances is something we all need to learn a lesson from.  The Golfers of the PGA will lead usall to a Better Tomorrow!

RE


Wild weather in the forecast for PGA Championship (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/07/us-golf-pga-weather-idUSBRE8761I220120807)
By Mark Lamport-Stokes

KIAWAH ISLAND, South Carolina | Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:39pm EDT
 
(Reuters) - Luke Donald got a sneak preview of the wildly unpredictable ocean weather likely to affect this week's PGA Championship during his first two hours of practice at Kiawah Island Golf Resort on Tuesday.
 
The British world number one had to cope with strong winds after teeing off, then had to come off the course due to the threat of lightning before returning just half an hour later in surprisingly light breezes.

"I teed off this morning at 7:00 a.m. and it was a 25-mile-an-hour wind that lasted about 45 minutes," Donald told reporters as steady rain swept across the 7,676-yard Ocean Course.

"Got called in for half an hour, came back out and the wind was completely different and just five miles an hour.

"Obviously the conditions are changing from hour to hour, and that's making it difficult on this course. With barely any wind, the course offers you some opportunities but under some tougher conditions, this is a very tough test."

A mixture of rain, thunderstorms, lightning and gusts up to 30 mph have been forecast for the year's final major which starts on Thursday with conditions expected to ease for Sunday's final round.

Suspensions in play are almost certain to be part of the package over the four days, though four-times champion Tiger Woods said this was nothing new for the players.

"We're so accustomed to them," the 14-times major winner added. "Rain delays are part of summer months. As long as we get enough time to loosen up and warm up and get back into rhythm, that's fine.

"Sometimes it gets a little difficult when they keep you in the vans and you cool off and then they don't bring you in, you go back out. It's part of playing in the summer in the South."

The Pete Dye-designed oceanfront layout is no stranger to major events, having hosted the 1991 Ryder Cup and the World Cup in 1997 and 2003.

LONGEST LAYOUT

Stretched to 7,676 yards for this week's PGA Championship, the Ocean Course is the longest layout to stage a major and its closing stretch is particularly formidable.

"The front nine is a really nice, playable golf course, and then the back nine is not," said Australian Adam Scott. "The back nine is very severe.

"There are good scores out there in good weather, but if the wind blows, it's just going to be very difficult, even if they move tees forward and stuff like that.

"The green complexes are very severe on some holes, and there is extreme penalty for a miss. There's water one side and big waste bunkers the other. It's certainly going to need some (good) ball striking."

World nunber two Woods, seeking his first major title since the 2008 U.S. Open, said he enjoyed the challenge of Pete Dye-designed courses.

"He makes you think, which I like, instead of just going out there and hitting a golf ball," the American added. "He makes you make a decision off the tees, makes you make a decision into the greens and makes you leave the ball in the correct spot.

"The thing about Pete is if you miss your spots, you're going to get penalized severely, and I think that's more so than any other course designer. But he gives you a lot of room."

One unusual aspect of this week's championship is that the Ocean Course will feature no bunkers, the PGA of America having declared all sandy areas as "through the green".

Consequently players will be permitted to ground their clubs in the sand, take practice swings and remove loose impediments.
Title: Re: Golfers Adapt to The New Nature
Post by: JoeP on August 08, 2012, 06:29:44 AM
Quote
gusts up to 30 mph have been forecast for the year's final major

I'll bet these "Brave, Tough and Skillful Athletes" are relieved the USGA changed rule 18-2b this year: (http://www.usga.org/NewsSF.aspx?id=21474843713)

"Ball Moving After Address (Rule 18-2b). A new exception is added which exonerates the player from penalty if their ball moves after it has been addressed when it is known or virtually certain that they did not cause the ball to move. For example, if it is a gust of wind that moves the ball after it has been addressed, there is no penalty and the ball is played from its new position.

 
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: WHD on August 08, 2012, 06:53:58 AM
Maybe a hurricane will develop before the weekend is out, and remove the island. Can't be too stable now that they removed all those trees to build the longest course ever hosting a "major."

From Reuterz:

The world is aghast today, faced with one of the greatest tragedies in human history. Determined that the show would go on, 111 golfers, including some of the greatest names in the game, including Tiger Woods and Phil Mikelson, were swept into the Atlantic ocean...

The nation is mourning the great loss of so many heroes...

The search has been complicated by the fact that the island itself is gone...

It is perhaps worth noting too, 10,000 spectators and staff were missing and presumed dead...

Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: agelbert on August 08, 2012, 12:56:10 PM
WHD,
Good one!  :icon_mrgreen:

I'm rooting for a major blast of wind on the golf course Trump built in Scotland by buying half the politicians there (he was even awarded an honorary doctorate from some university poobah there for "skills in making money"!). This asshole Trump was bitching about offshore wind generators planned because he didn't want the view "ruined" on the golf course he made (in defiance of environmentalist warnings that a golf course would cause a lot of damage there). I hope Trump is being filmed on his golf course when a 70 mph microburst rips the wig off his head just before he turns into a human version of a tumbleweed. :emthup: :icon_mrgreen:

(http://www.fengtastic.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/tumbleweed-1.jpg)
Scratchy finally catches up to Trump Tumbleweed!
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: WHD on August 08, 2012, 05:42:45 PM
agelbert,

Eye, da floppy on a taap a hiz 'ead da leas' a hiz cuncurns. Ol (F)(t)rumpy better hope da Greenlan ice sheet don' plop in da sea, ur da fanzy guulf curse a hiz won be wurt much, unner an ice sheeet, da hole a yurup deesendin in a deep freeeezz.
Title: Re: Golfers Adapt to the New Nature
Post by: JoeP on August 10, 2012, 06:03:49 PM
Quote from: RE
Of all the problems which face us today from Climate Change, none is more Pressing and Important than the ones faced by Tiger Woods and Phil Mickelson as the Tee Up to the First Hole in the PGA Championship.


Looks like your man Tiger:

(http://fourthandfifty.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/what-kind-of-car-does-tiger-woods-drive-5.jpg)

is doing very well so far this week.

I guess somebody flew a select group of top-shelf prostitutes into Kiawah this week...for therapeutic massage purposes only of course.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/12/11/article-1235122-07914BD7000005DC-806_306x423.jpg)

The $15,000 woman? Michelle Braun claimed that Tiger Woods paid that amount for a date with Loredana Jolie, pictured above, one night in Manhattan - an allegation which, if true, would make her the 11th of Woods' affairs




Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: agelbert on August 10, 2012, 11:04:02 PM
I was looking through some old posts in disqus and I found some data on flowering that I had lost in my old computer so I am reporting it here.


First Flowers 2011     2012
Crocus April 2     March 19
Glory of the snowApril 13     March 31
DaffodilApril 23     April 10

 
Title: Re: The New Nature Mega drought or Mega-rain?
Post by: Surly1 on August 20, 2012, 10:03:10 AM
Came across this and found it interesting. Wasn't sure where to put it; thought this was as good a place as any.

http://econintersect.com/wordpress/?p=25249&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Articles+posted+on+19+August+2012&utm_content=Articles+posted+on+19+August+2012+CID_8f727f88ac178eee781f61cc113da65b&utm_source=newsletter&utm_term=Climate+Change+Mega-Drought+or+Mega-Rain (http://econintersect.com/wordpress/?p=25249&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Articles+posted+on+19+August+2012&utm_content=Articles+posted+on+19+August+2012+CID_8f727f88ac178eee781f61cc113da65b&utm_source=newsletter&utm_term=Climate+Change+Mega-Drought+or+Mega-Rain)

Climate Change: Mega-Drought or Mega-Rain
Posted on 18 August 2012 by admin

    Written by Sig Silber
(http://econintersect.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/z-temp63.png)

An article entitled Hundred-Year Forecast: Drought recently appeared in the New York Times.

But droughts do not usually come with 100 year durations and I realize this is not exactly what the author was saying.  Titles are often created by the editor rather than the author(s) and can be misleading.

If you take a group of climate cycles with different wave lengths and amplitudes and superimpose them, you get a pattern with large variations over time. Thus we can experience long periods of above average or below average temperature or precipitation, all part of the patterns that one expects to see. Those working with economic cycles have been dealing with this phenomenon for a very long time.

But what we have now is a grand experiment – adding greenhouse gases (GHGs) to the atmosphere. We have a good idea of the impact on secular temperature trends (and hence evaporation) and some idea about precipitation, but with a lot more uncertainty there. What does not seem to be well understood is how warming and more water vapor in the atmosphere impacts the various climate cycles. Are they unaffected (i.e. they are additive to the climate change secular trend)? Are they enhanced? Are they dampened? Is their duration changed and is the geographical area where they have an impact changed? Is the interaction among climate cycles changed?

On a worldwide basis, it can be dry in some places and wet in other places. Ocean evaporation does not stop. When air temperatures are warmer, you get more ocean evaporation and it can’t all just “stay up there”. If you read the IPCC reports you will notice that they project a wetter planet. I think the formula is one degree Centigrade translates into a 7% increase in the intensity of extreme precipitation events and a 2% increase in average precipitation. That does not tell us about the distribution of precipitation over a year or the distribution of distribution over the planet; But there will be more precipitation on a global basis – and more evaporation. So net water availability is a big issue.

Those who have an interest in this topic might have some fun playing around with this – http://www.climatewizard.org/ (http://www.climatewizard.org/)

You may have to play around with it a bit (and check the right boxes) to have it show

A. Precipitation measurement
B. Global analysis area

Then pick any of the IPCC scenarios and time frames.

You will see that a lot of the World will have more precipitation. Some important areas will have have less and that is of significant concern. We will also definitely have more evaporation so the amount of water we have to work with is another story. That is the big issue for parts of the US where the net impact is projected to be negative.

Going the next step to project geopolitical and economic impacts is another layer of complexity. It is fairly unlikely that we will have both less water and more people in large areas. But it could happen. That could result in transfering more and more water out of agriculture into cities. But food has to be grown somewhere. As the size of the area projected to have less usable water to work with increases, I suspect that it is less likely that such an area will experience population increases.

Perhaps humans will evolve into smaller people. In the early Eocene, I think rat-sized was the optimum for mammals.  A change in that direction might solve a lot of problems and may be how nature adapts.  More likely, though, given the rapid rate of climate change, people will be forced to migrate.

Historically, migrations have not occurred peacefully. And economic activity shifting from one place to another causes economic imbalances. So it is likely to be a messy process. I think there will be winners and losers but some think even expressing that thought is inappropriate.

Time will tell.

I am fairly certain that our (the world’s not the U.S. alone) level of greenhouse gas emissions is not going to be reduced any time soon and probably will increase. I think the concept that people in developed nations are willing to give up even 10% of their current standard of living for the benefit of future generations is unrealistic. And the idea that those currently living at close to subsistence levels in developing nations are not going to seize their opportunity to try to achieve developed nation living standards is also unrealistic.

I do not believe that sustainability is programmed into the genetic structure of animals. Adaptation is. So it is probably more useful to focus on adaptation than bemoan the shortsightedness and villainy of others. Adaptation can be attempted on an individual basis and by small groups. Global sustainability requires large-scale cooperation and is unlikely to be achieved, especially if sustainability is defined as sustaining the status quo. It is a quaint and perhaps charming concept but not very realistic. And of course focusing on achieving sustainability delays adaptation.
Title: The New Nature-Weird UK Weather
Post by: RE on October 18, 2012, 04:10:22 PM
Just another rainy day in Jolly Old England.  No worries.

RE

UK experiences 'weirdest' weather  (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19995084)

By Roger Harrabin
Environment analyst

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/63579000/jpg/_63579586_63579569.jpg)
 
A dry spring gave way to wet conditions - a rapid transformation

Atlantic cause for rainy summers
Summer is 'wettest in 100 years'
Rainy weather breaks UK record
The UK has experienced its "weirdest" weather on record in the past few months, scientists say.

The driest spring for over a century gave way to the wettest recorded April to June in a dramatic turnaround never documented before.

The scientists said there was no evidence that the weather changes were a result of Man-made climate change.

But experts from three bodies warned the UK must plan for periodic swings of drought conditions and flooding.

The warning came from the Environment Agency, Met Office and Centre for Ecology & Hydrology (CEH) at a joint briefing in London.

Terry Marsh, from the CEH, said there was no close modern precedent for the extraordinary switch in river flows. The nearest comparison was 1903 but this year was, he said, truly remarkable.

What was also remarkable - and also fortunate - was that more people did not suffer from flooding. Indeed, one major message of the briefing was that society has been steadily increasing its resilience to floods.

Paul Mustow, head of flood management at the Environment Agency, told BBC News that 4,500 properties had been flooded this year.

"But if you look back to 2007 when over 55,000 properties were flooded, we were relatively lucky - if lucky is the right word - for the impacts we saw this summer," he said.

"The rainfall patterns affected different areas - and also there were periods of respite between the rain which lessened the impact."

Fast moving
 
He said 53,000 properties would have been flooded this year without flood defences. In total, he said, 190,000 properties had received flood protection in recent years.

Mr Mustow claimed that flood defences repaid their investment by a factor of 8-1 but admitted that continuing to invest would be a "challenge", after government cuts to planned projects.

But he said that new streams of joint funding from local authorities and private developers had allowed 60 schemes to happen that otherwise would not have gone ahead.

He said: "We have to get our heads round the possibility now that we're going to have to move very quickly from drought to flood - with river levels very high and very low over a short period of time.

"We used to say we had a traditional flood season in winter - now often it's in summer. This is an integrated problem - there's no one thing that's going to solve it. The situation is changing all the time."

But scientists present from the Met Office and CEH said not much could be read into the weird weather. Terry Marsh from CEH said: "Rainfall charts show no compelling long-term trend - the annual precipitation table shows lots of variability."

Sarah Jackson from the Met Office confirmed that it did not discern any pattern that suggested Man-made climate change was at play in UK rainfall - although if temperatures rise as projected in future, that would lead to warmer air being able to carry more moisture to fall as rain.

She said that this year's conditions were partly caused by a move to a negative phase of the North Atlantic Oscillation which would be likely to lead to more frequent cold, drier winters - like the 1960s - and also wetter summers for 10-20 years.

"Longer term we will see a trend to drier summers but superimposed on that we will always see natural variability," she said.

Whatever happens with the weather, the Environment Agency expects that more and more people will be protected from floods and droughts thanks to water sharing between farmers, water transfer between water companies, and better management of leaks and demand.

But Mr Mustow admitted that much more needed to be done to ensure that farmers did not increase flood risk with land drainage schemes and that developers and builders ensured that new developments allowed water to drain into the soil rather than flushing into the sewers.
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: monsta666 on October 18, 2012, 04:43:37 PM
The weather has been quite bizarre. I do recall a few months back some regions in the South-West of England being issued with drought AND flood warnings at the same time. Talk about a contradiction of extreme weather! It was ironic that as soon as the MET said there was large droughts and possible rationing in water usage the heavens opened for two months giving almost nothing but rain. While the year has been one of the wettest in recent memory England was suffering from below average rainfall for the two years prior to this one. The water reservoirs are around normal levels perhaps slightly above normal.
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: Petty Tyrant on October 19, 2012, 12:31:25 AM
They didnt go into the possibility of interrupted gulf stream, that is meant to send british isles and scandinavia back into ice age if it happens. who knows the impact of the BP Gulf of mexico spill.
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: ross on November 05, 2012, 08:42:40 PM
This guy says ALL trees are dead or dying because of tropospheric ozone concentrations. Lots of pictures post-Sandy of rotted trees toppled over. Most deaths from the storm were from trees. He also blames the dead trees for all the power outages and implies a willful ignorance by media and government.

http://witsendnj.blogspot.com/2012/11/barking-up-wrongtree.html (http://witsendnj.blogspot.com/2012/11/barking-up-wrongtree.html)
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: g on November 05, 2012, 08:48:26 PM
Hey, Ross is back, what a pleasant surprise. Nice to hear from you again Ross.    :)
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: Petty Tyrant on November 05, 2012, 10:04:10 PM
All the locals looking at those trees dont need the benefit of reading this to see the problem and start asking questions. Will they decide to take drastic action. Doubt it.
Title: Wild Spring Weather
Post by: RE on April 18, 2013, 01:06:54 AM
Nothing to see here folks, please move along.  Climate change is a Libtard Myth, just ask Brandon Smith.

Where's my Hail-brella?

I fully expect to wake up tomorrow to find out Oklahoma City was consumed in a Funnel Cloud and whisked off to OZ.

It's a TWISTA! It's a TWISTA!  Dorothy!  Dorothy!

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-j98iXpj08jg/Taw9iCc-oSI/AAAAAAAACZc/6_NM6IM-GU8/s640/wizard+3.jpg)

RE

Wild spring weather snarls parts of country (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/17/17798296-wild-spring-weather-snarls-parts-of-country?lite)

Ed Andrieski / AP

Two women share an umbrella to ward off snow as they walk the 16th Street Mall during the noon hour in Denver on Wednesday, April 17, 2013.

By Andrew Rafferty, Staff Writer, NBC News

Severe thunderstorms, large hail and possible tornadoes menaced a swath of the country from northern Texas to St. Louis, Missouri, on Wednesday, while heavy rains in northern Illinois caused delays at Chicago-area airports and snow made for messy travel in Colorado.

Follow @NBCNewsUS

The National Weather Service issued advisories of all types as harsh weather pelted the middle of the country throughout the day.

Much of Oklahoma was under a tornado watch until late Wednesday as intense storms ravaged the Texas-Oklahoma border. That tornado watch extends north through St. Louis and central Illinois.

"There could be really strong storms later tonight, and that's always scary. That could be the case in central Oklahoma," said Carl Parker, a storm specialist for The Weather Channel.

A flash flood warning was in effect in northern Illinois, causing airport delays and cancellations. O'Hare International Airport reported delays averaging almost one hour, with more than 300 flight cancellations due to weather, according to the Chicago Department of Aviation.

At Chicago Midway International Airport, airlines were reporting some delays of 30 minutes or more, with a few flight cancellations.

Meanwhile out west, Colorado was still dealing with the lingering effects of heavy snowfall, which had created messy driving conditions. Multiple accidents Wednesday afternoon led the state's Department of Transportation to shutdown westbound traffic for a portion of Interstate 70.

Inbound flights to Denver International Airport were delayed an average of 2 hours 16 minutes Wednesday evening, according to tracking site FlightAware.com. Outbound flights were experiencing delays of about 45 minutes.

Areas around Denver were expected to receive 3 to 6 inches of new snow by the end of Wednesday.
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: DoomerSupport on April 18, 2013, 09:36:43 AM
We're enjoying a cool spell here in California.  Very pleasant as it give the garden a little more time to root before the heat gets oppressive.

Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: Eddie on April 18, 2013, 09:40:30 AM
Same here. My potatoes are benefiting from a few more sub-50 degree nights, and I did a late planting of lettuce which I figured would be toast before it could produce much...supposed to get down to 45 or so tonight...and it's raining. Yay!
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: DoomerSupport on April 18, 2013, 09:57:47 AM
Same here. My potatoes are benefiting from a few more sub-50 degree nights, and I did a late planting of lettuce which I figured would be toast before it could produce much...supposed to get down to 45 or so tonight...and it's raining. Yay!

We have a good crop of lettuce, sweet peas and strawberries so far.   The squash, peppers tomatoes are flowering well and should give us a good crop.  Potatoes are pretty healthy but it will be a couple of weeks before I get fresh boiled new potatoes on my plate. Loads of onions, leeks and garlic on the way.   

The cooler weather has slowed some projects, I need the temperature a little higher before I apply surface bonding cement to a few of the concrete-block raised beds. 


Title: Brit Superstorm
Post by: RE on October 28, 2013, 04:15:54 PM
I wonder how Hepp is doing?  Monsta?  Any reports?

RE

Superstorm Pounds UK: Leads To Deaths, Black Outs, Traffic Suspensions And Flight Cancelations
(http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-28/superstorm-pounds-uk-leads-deaths-black-outs-traffic-suspensions-and-flight-cancelat)         
 (http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpg) (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden)
   
Submitted by Tyler Durden (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden) on 10/28/2013 09:02 -0400
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Almost exactly one year after Superstorm Sandy crushed the eastern seaboard of the USA, and 26 years after the last devastating storm to hit the south of England, the so-called St.Jude's Day storm - among the worst in recent memory - is battering the UK (and some of Europe) with winds up to 99 mph. So far there are 2 reported deaths, 220,000 homes without power, all SouthWest trains halted, and over 130 flights cancelled at Heathrow airport. Two nuclear plants have been shutdown and hundreds of trees have fallen blocking roads and rail links across as the storm begins to shift into mainland Europe...
 
Satellite image of the storm...

http://www.youtube.com/v/3-76Z-zhPyQ?feature=player_embedded

Via Reuters,
A teenage girl was killed when a tree fell onto her home while she slept during a fierce storm that battered southern Britain, police said on Monday.Police said they were called to the scene at 0718 GMT in Hever in Kent following a report the 17-year old was severely injured."Sadly the 17-year old died," police said in a statement. "The incident is not being treated as suspicious."Britain's strongest storm in a decade battered southern regions on Monday, forcing hundreds of flight cancellations, cutting power lines and disrupting the travel plans of millions of commuters.

http://www.youtube.com/v/Jk6DwvnfeD0?feature=player_embedded

Via ANP,
Amsterdam Fire Brigade Says Stay Inside as Storm Kills 2
(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2013/10/20131028_storm2.jpg)
BBC News reports a double-decker bus blown over...
(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2013/10/20131028_storm3.jpg)
 
Hundreds of trees have fallen...
(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2013/10/20131028_storm1.jpg)
 
(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2013/10/20131028_storm6.jpg)
 
(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2013/10/20131028_storm7.jpg)
 
A large crane fell on the UK's Cabinet office.
(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2013/10/20131028_storm4.jpg)
 
 
Power firm EDF say that have partially shut down two nuclear reactors in Kent due to the storm. We are trying to get more information on this.
"The shutdown was weather-related. The plant reacted as it should and shut down safely," an EDF Energy spokeswoman said.
and destruction is rife...
(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2013/10/20131028_storm5.jpg)
 
(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2013/10/20131028_storm9.jpg)
 
But there remains hope for recovery...
(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2013/10/20131028_storm8.jpg)
 
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: monsta666 on October 28, 2013, 04:28:25 PM
I am still in hospital so this did not effect me. I did hear there was lots of disruptions to publoc transport,  power cuts to 200, 000 homes and deaths. All I saw was a tree shaking a bit and some patients didn't get to have visitors today as travel was too difficult for them to make it.
Title: SUPER-TYPHOON!
Post by: RE on November 09, 2013, 03:26:17 PM
No Climate Change...right?

Makes Sandy and Katrina look like a Sunday Picnic.  The strongest storm EVER to make landfall.

Maybe when one of these MONSTERS hits DC they'll wake up?  Nah...

Go to ZH for all the Pics and Vids.  I'm not gonna paste them all over.

RE

Supertyphoon Haiyan Leaves Over 1,200 Dead: The "Massive Destruction" In Photos And Videos (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-09/supertyphoon-haiyan-leaves-over-1200-dead-massive-destruction-photos-and-videos)

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 11/09/2013 13:46 -0500

As reported yesterday, Typhoon Haiyan - potentially the strongest storm to ever make landfall, and stronger than Katrina and Sandy combined - has come and left the Philippines (currently heading for Vietnam), and now the time has come to evaluate the damage and count the dead. Sadly, as Reuters reports, the devastation is absolutely massive and especially in the hardest hit city of Tacloban in the central Leyte province, may match the aftermath of the Fukushima tsunami: "This is destruction on a massive scale. There are cars thrown like tumbleweed and the streets are strewn with debris." Airport manager Efren Nagrama, 47, said water levels rose up to four metres (13 ft) in the airport. "It was like a tsunami. We escaped through the windows and I held on to a pole for about an hour as rain, seawater and wind swept through the airport. Some of my staff survived by clinging to trees. I prayed hard all throughout until the water subsided."

And it's not over yet: the following clip from The Weather Channel summarizes the current position and heading of the Typhoon:

But while the worst may be yet to come, for the Philippines it is bad enough as Reuters explains:

A day after Typhoon Haiyan churned through the Philippine archipelago in a straight line from east to west, rescue teams struggled to reach far-flung regions, hampered by washed out roads, many choked with debris and fallen trees.

The death toll is expected to rise sharply from the fast-moving storm, whose circumference eclipsed the whole country and which late on Saturday was heading for Vietnam.

Among the hardest hit was coastal Tacloban in central Leyte province, where preliminary estimates suggest more than 1,000 people were killed, said Gwendolyn Pang, secretary general of the Philippine Red Cross, as water surges rushed through the city.

"An estimated more than 1,000 bodies were seen floating in Tacloban as reported by our Red Cross teams," she told Reuters. "In Samar, about 200 deaths. Validation is ongoing."

She expected a more exact number to emerge after a more precise counting of bodies on the ground in those regions.

Witnesses said bodies covered in plastic were lying on the streets. Television footage shows cars piled atop each other.

The Philippines has yet to restore communications with officials in Tacloban, a city of about 220,000. A government official estimated at least 100 were killed and more than 100 wounded, but conceded the toll would likely rise sharply.

The airport was nearly destroyed as raging seawaters swept through the city, shattering the glass of the airport tower, levelling the terminal and overturning nearby vehicles.

"Almost all houses were destroyed, many are totally damaged. Only a few are left standing," said Major Rey Balido, a spokesman for the national disaster agency.

Local television network ABS-CBN showed images of looting in one of the city's biggest malls, with residents carting away everything from appliances to suitcases and grocery items.

Airport manager Efren Nagrama, 47, said water levels rose up to four metres (13 ft) in the airport.

"It was like a tsunami. We escaped through the windows and I held on to a pole for about an hour as rain, seawater and wind swept through the airport. Some of my staff survived by clinging to trees. I prayed hard all throughout until the water subsided."

Across the country, about a million people took shelter in 37 provinces after President Benigno Aquino appealed to those in the typhoon's path to leave vulnerable areas.

"For casualties, we think it will be substantially more," Aquino told reporters.

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Photos of the damage via the Weather Channel:

 

Finally, here is video evidence of what the stronger typhoon in history looks like on the ground:

Title: Re: SUPER-TYPHOON!
Post by: RE on November 25, 2013, 01:53:43 AM
Mostly off the MSM Radar now, but the Death Toll keeps climbing from Haiyan.

The sad reply to this disaster is to give Filipinos more LOANS to dig out from this mess.  Like these folks will EVER be able to pay off said LOANS?  Man, just by the time they manage to get some Cleanup done, they will be HIT by another one.  Maybe not a Super Typhoon next time, but a Super Flood or a Super Earthquake or SOMETHING Super.

Definitely NOT a choice hole in this spin down!

RE


Philippines typhoon death toll feared to hit 7,000
(http://news.yahoo.com/philippine-typhoon-death-toll-passes-5-200-govt-002232463.html)
AFP
By Martin Abbugao November 23, 2013 3:21 AM

Displaced residents walk past a ship washed ashore by Super Typhoon Haiyan in Tacloban on November 23, 2013
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Tacloban (Philippines) (AFP) - The number of people dead or missing after one of the world's strongest typhoons struck the Philippines climbed towards 7,000 on Saturday, as the United Nations warned much more needed to be done to help desperate survivors.
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The government's confirmed death toll rose to 5,235, with another 1,613 people still missing more than two weeks after Super Typhoon Haiyan destroyed entire towns across a long stretch of islands in the central Philippines.

Haiyan now rivals a 1976 tsunami on the southern island of Mindanao as the deadliest recorded natural disaster to strike the Philippines, which endures a never-ending battle against typhoons, earthquakes, floods and volcanic eruptions.

The typhoon has triggered a giant, international aid effort, with dozens of countries and relief organisations rushing to deliver food, water and health services to more than four million people who lost their homes.

However UN humanitarian chief Valerie Amos, after visiting the disaster zones, warned the world was still not responding fast enough.

"Much more needs to be done. Food, clean water and shelter remain the top priorities," Amos said as a UN appeal for funds was raised from $301 million to $348 million.
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Victims of Super Typhoon Haiyan queue for food aid …
Victims of Super Typhoon Haiyan queue for food aid to be distributed in Tacloban on November 23, 201 …

Amos said huge numbers of people were still exposed to bad weather in the nine provinces ravaged by the storm, as she warned particularly of the dangers for babies, children and mothers.

"I am very concerned that some 1.5 million children are at risk of acute malnutrition and close to 800,000 pregnant and nursing mothers need nutritional help," Amos told a news conference at UN headquarters.

Survivors plead for more help

In the coastal city of Tacloban, one of the worst-hit areas where five-metre (16-feet) waves surged deep inland and destroyed most buildings, survivors continued to complain about a lack of help.

"There is no steady supply of relief goods. It comes in trickles," said Maribel Senase, 41, as she held a baby and her husband sawed wood near their shattered home.
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Victims of Super Typhoon Haiyan make their way down …
Victims of Super Typhoon Haiyan make their way down a road blocked by the rubble of destroyed homes  …

Senase, who has four children, said her family had received rice, dried fish and sardines, but they remained hungry.

The World Bank on Friday added $480 million in emergency aid to the Philippines, taking its support to nearly $1 billion, in an effort to spur efforts to rebuild homes and infrastructure.

The Asian Development Bank also last week offered $500 million concessionary loans.

The US military has performed the highest-profile role in the relief effort, sending an aircraft carrier that arrived six days after the disaster which finally allowed relief supplies to start reaching isolated communities.

Japan also sent more than 1,000 troops aboard three vessels that arrived on Thursday night, in what is the biggest overseas deployment of the country's military since its defeat in World War II nearly 70 years ago.
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A young boy cleans salvaged toys near a ship washed …
A young boy cleans salvaged toys near a ship washed ashore by Super Typhoon Haiyan in Tacloban on No …

China, which is embroiled in a long-running territorial dispute with the Philippines, dispatched a 300-bed hospital ship, while Australia, Britain and Indonesia are among many other nations to have also sent military support.

Death toll keeps climbing

The number of people confirmed killed jumped by nearly 1,200 on Friday to 5,209, as confirmed body counts were made in some flattened communities, the spokesman for the government's disaster management council, Reynaldo Balido, told AFP.

"If you notice, there was not much movement in the death toll for the past few days. This was because the reporting rules required a casualty report signed by the city mayor and his health officer," he told AFP on Friday night.

"Now, the reports are coming in from the entire typhoon area."

The death toll rose marginally again on Saturday morning, and was expected to continue rising over the coming days and weeks.

In Tacloban, the capital of Leyte province in the eastern Philippines, 1,727 people have been confirmed dead. Another 451 remain missing.

The typhoon on November 8 brought some of the strongest winds ever recorded and generated tsunami-like storm surges that flattened dozens of towns.

The magnitude of the disaster has continued to stun and overwhelm President Benigno Aquino's administration. A few days after Haiyan struck, Aquino said he expected the death toll would be between 2,000 and 2,500.

The Philippines is so prone to natural disasters because it is located along a typhoon belt and the so-called Ring of Fire, a vast Pacific Ocean region where many of Earth's earthquakes and volcanic eruptions occur.

But the only other natural disaster to compare with Haiyan for ferocity was the tsunami triggered by a magnitude 7.9 earthquake in 1976 that killed between 5,000 and 8,000 people on Mindanao.
Title: The New Nature: POLAR VORTEX IS BACK!
Post by: RE on July 10, 2014, 10:37:37 PM
WHD & Roamer will need to break out the longjohns.

RE

The Polar Vortex Is Back... In The Middle Of July

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While every single economist and "straight to CNBC" pundit was quick to blast the atrocious economic performance in Q1 as solely due to the "harsh weather", what has emerged in various retail earnings reports so far in Q2 is that, drumroll, they lied. In fact, as one after another "stunned" retailer admits, the depressed spending observed during Q1 continued, if not deteriorated even further, in the second quarter. Which means only one thing, the same thing we said back in January: as a result of Obamacare, the declining credit impulse resulting from the Fed's tapering, and a ongoing contraction in global trade as the world slides back into recession, the US economy is on the verge of stalling and may well enter into a tailspin if one or more exogenous events take place in a centrally-planned world that is priced to perfection.

To be sure, one of the potential scapegoats we highlighted previously was the replacement of the polar vortex with what we dubbed the "solar vortex", ala El Nino, which as we further reported, has already been blamed in advance by the Bank of Japan for a spending collapse set to take place in the second half of 2014, the year when the Japanese economy now almost certainly re-enters recession.

But just to make sure that the abysmal Q1 GDP which has now spilled over into Q2 and will likely see the US economy growing in the mid-2% range, has a sufficiently broad "excuse" in the third quarter of the year, here comes - in the middle of July - the polar vortex 2.0.  As WaPo reports, "However you choose to refer to the looming weather pattern, unseasonably chilly air is headed for parts of the northern and northeastern U.S at the height of summer early next week."

(WeatherBell.com, adapted by CWG)

 
 

Bearing a haunting resemblance to January’s brutally cold weather pattern, a deep pool of cool air from the Gulf of Alaska will plunge into the Great Lakes early next week and then ooze towards the East Coast.

6-10 day outlook from National Weather Service Climate Prediction Center

The atmospheric impact will not be nearly as dramatic, but still temperatures are forecast to be roughly 10 to as much as 30 degrees below average.

Temperature anomalies (or difference from normal) Tuesday midday from European model (WeatherBell.com)

This means that in parts of the Great Lakes and Upper Midwest getting dealt the chilliest air, highs in this region could well get stuck in the 50s and 60s – especially where there is considerable cloud cover.

GFS model forecast highs Tuesday (WeatherBell.com)

 

And focusing on next week specifically, "Wednesday morning’s lows may drop into the  40s over a large part of the central U.S."

 GFS model forecast lows Wednesday morning (WeatherBell.com)

 

Highs may struggle to reach 80 in D.C. next Tuesday and Wednesday with widespread lows in the 50s (even 40s in the mountains).

GFS model 7-day forecast (WeatherBell.com)

More from WaPo:

 
 

What’s behind this unusual winter weather pattern primed for the dog days of summer?  A lot of it is simply chance (randomness), but Weather Underground’s meteorologist Jeff Masters says Japan’s typhoon Neoguri is playing a role in the pattern’s evolving configuration:

 
 

….the large and powerful nature of this storm has set in motion a chain-reaction set of events that will dramatically alter the path of the jet stream and affect weather patterns across the entire Northern Hemisphere next week. Neoguri will cause an acceleration of the North Pacific jet stream, causing a large amount of warm, moist tropical air to push over the North Pacific. This will amplify a trough low pressure over Alaska, causing a ripple effect in the jet stream over western North America, where a strong ridge of high pressure will develop, and over the Midwestern U.S., where a strong trough of low pressure will form.

What amazes me most about the pattern is not so much the forecast temperatures, but the uncanny similarities in the weather patterns over North America seen in both the heart of winter and heart of summer. All of the same features (refer to the map at the top of this post)  apparent in January are on the map in mid-July: low pressure over the Aleutians (blue shading), a large hot ridge (yellow and red shading) over the western U.S., the huge cold low or vortex over the Great Lakes (blue and green shading), and then the ridge over northeast Canada (yellow and red shading).

 

It’s not at all clear what this means or what, if anything, it portends.  Weather patterns cycling through a certain circulation regime can repeat (and we’ve seen this pattern multiple times since November-December), but with El Nino forecast to develop, the global configuration of weather systems is likely to change.

So the question is: just how profound of an adverse impact on Q3 GDP (because remember: weather anomalies are never additive to GDP; only wars can do that in a Keynesian world) will the second, summertime coming of polar vortex have on the US economy? Judging by the laughable farce that the economic profession has devolved to, desperately seeking to "explain away" any deviation from a priced to perfection growth rate, if only that of the Fed's balance sheet, not to mention why its forecasts are always wrong we are likely to find out very soon.

Title: Re: The New Nature/Severe weather injures 10 in Virginia Beach
Post by: Surly1 on July 11, 2014, 02:21:46 AM
Interesting weather events in my corner of the world as well.  Yesterday's forecast called for severe thunderstorms, yet some areas also got  funnel clouds, giant hail, and pointy-tailed demons.  Flooding is a fairly regular occurrence in a low lying tidal area, as storm drains get overwhelmed, so we are pretty used to it. What was interesting yesterday was the reluctance of the weather bloviators  to call the event that destroyed houses and ripped the steeple off a church a "tornado."  Contrary thinks it has something to do with Virginia Beach being a resort area, and local news outlets not wanting to do anything to keep vacationers from parting with their wallets.

Severe weather injures 10 in Virginia Beach (http://ow.ly/z2cRQ)

NORFOLK, Va. -- Severe thunderstorms injured 10 people and caused significant structural damage along the Virginia Beach oceanfront Thursday, officials said.

Of the injured, six were transported to the hospital, Virginia Beach Fire Department Battalion Chief Amy Valdez said.

Two people are in critical condition, but their injuries are not considered life-threatening, according to Sentara Virginia Beach General Hospital spokesman Dale Gauding.

Sentara deployed its mass casualty team to the oceanfront to help treat and transport patients affected by the storm.

Valdez said the storm came through Thursday afternoon and caused extensive damage throughout the city near the coast. Valdez says multiple homes were damaged, power poles were knocked down and a church had its steeple knocked down. She says windows at some oceanfront hotels and businesses were also blown out.

The storm also caused street flooding in Norfolk and Virginia Beach, making some roads impassable.

Dominion Virginia Power reported more than 5,000 customers were without power in southeastern Virginia late Thursday, with about 3,700 of those in Virginia Beach.

Possible Tornado in Capron and Virginia Beach (http://blogs.wavy.com/2014/07/10/possible-tornado-in-capron-and-virginia-beach/#sthash.AHuD1MWz.dpuf)
July 10th, 2014 at 5:29 pm by Jeff Edmondson WAVY under Weather

Early in the afternoon we were tracking a storm near Emporia that was moving easterly at 25mph. This storm had a weak area of rotation, or spin inside the storm cell. There have been a few reports of a tornado in the town of Capron in Southampton County. Then, as the storm tracked from Capron to Virginia Beach it left a trail of hail. In Courtland, hail stones were around 1″ in diameter. In Chesapeake (Near the Greenbrier Mall) and also Kempsville in Virginia Beach had 1″ to 1.5″ hail. To see pictures, go HERE.
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This was one of the pictures we received from the VB Oceanfront area. We also got more pictures of blow out windshields from cars parked along this street. (Near 17th St.) We did see something interesting on Super Doppler 10:

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Radar @ 3:45pm

(http://blogs.wavy.com/files/2014/07/2.jpg)Radar @ 3:49pm
You can see over the 4-minute time span there may have been a hook echo or an area of rotation moving across this area. This could have been a tornado or a downburst of wind. Right now it is too hard to say, but the velocities, or the measurement of wind within the storm cell did increase during this time frame near the 17th street area. The National Weather Service may be sending a storm survey crew to this area soon to analyze the area to see if it was a tornado.

Funnel Cloud Video:
http://www.youtube.com/v/tY4WmEU47I0&fs=1
- See more at: http://blogs.wavy.com/2014/07/10/possible-tornado-in-capron-and-virginia-beach/#sthash.AHuD1MWz.dpuf (http://blogs.wavy.com/2014/07/10/possible-tornado-in-capron-and-virginia-beach/#sthash.AHuD1MWz.dpuf)

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Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: RE on July 11, 2014, 02:25:57 AM
How did the SurlyStead Hold Up?

RE
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: Surly1 on July 11, 2014, 02:39:17 AM
How did the SurlyStead Hold Up?

RE

Absolutely fine.

 As I noted in my earlier post, this area is no stranger to tidal flooding. And the storms dropped about 4 inches in an hour, so all the low lying areas flooded. The tornado/funnel cloud events were pretty much confined to Virginia Beach which is about 10 miles east of where we live.  Plenty of lightning and thunder though, such that it scared the hell out of Contrary, who, with a history of kicking men in the balls and stabbing them with pens, doesn't scare easily.  We were on the phone yesterday afternoon, when I heard a thunderclap at home through the phone, and she said in a quiet voice, "I gotta go."  And she sat under a stairwell until the moment passed.

 Again, as noted, rain events in this area are not unusual; funnel clouds in this area, particularly over the water, are not unusual;  not even hail is unusual.  What is unusual is the increasing prevalence of tornado like events. And apparently even up in New York, they are now experiencing tornadoes were such events were very rare before.

 "The new normal," indeed.
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: Eddie on July 11, 2014, 06:07:58 AM
Day-um!
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: azozeo on August 29, 2014, 04:41:49 PM
Here's an unusual site, glowing underwater volcanic action.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeF6yGFraiI&list=UUHCMOmtJl2eJDINjgvKUHmA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeF6yGFraiI&list=UUHCMOmtJl2eJDINjgvKUHmA)
enjoy
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: knarf on August 29, 2014, 05:01:50 PM
Mysterious red glow spotted over the Pacific!!!

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/271458/mysterious-red-glow-spotted-over-the-pacific (http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/271458/mysterious-red-glow-spotted-over-the-pacific)
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: azozeo on September 02, 2014, 02:27:46 PM
Here's the latest Sun news. X class flare released from the Sun
http://www.youtube.com/v/9298RBk1-BM&list=UUxz5R9YQMRW5QqElbAlMqRw#&fs=1
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: azozeo on September 02, 2014, 07:25:58 PM
Earth directed CME & Hydra flair. Latest info.
http://www.youtube.com/v/maib9eGmG4s&list=UUxz5R9YQMRW5QqElbAlMqRw#&fs=1
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: Surly1 on September 03, 2014, 01:12:11 AM
Earth directed CME & Hydra flair. Latest info.
http://www.youtube.com/v/maib9eGmG4s&list=UUxz5R9YQMRW5QqElbAlMqRw#&fs=1

VERY interesting video. Was not aware of a relationship between solar flares and seismic activity on Earth. Has this relationship been demonstrated?

Also, if you dump out of the video before the end, you'll miss what he says about ISIS and Syria- which has nothing to do with his solar reporting, but which bears further fact checking.
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: azozeo on September 03, 2014, 03:52:17 AM
I try to follow astral travelers channel on you tube for the latest video's
on the Earth/Sun connectivity. A.T. usually puts out a new vid about every 4-5 days.
He's do for a new video, especially with all the solar activity.
Glad you like the news Surly1
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: azozeo on September 04, 2014, 09:33:11 AM
Recently found asteroid inbound Sunday 9-7-14
http://www.youtube.com/v/KKfXCPgVwiU&list=UUxz5R9YQMRW5QqElbAlMqRw#&fs=1
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: azozeo on September 04, 2014, 07:24:51 PM
Here's the latest info on the incoming CME from our Sun
http://www.youtube.com/v/iM_yyhDlpwM&list=UUxz5R9YQMRW5QqElbAlMqRw#&fs=1
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: azozeo on September 06, 2014, 01:39:51 AM
More CME info & update
http://www.youtube.com/v/DAT562YvXL0&list=UUxz5R9YQMRW5QqElbAlMqRw#&fs=1
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: azozeo on September 06, 2014, 02:03:06 PM
More updates on Bardarbunga & the incoming CME
http://www.youtube.com/v/5yOM-vCe5ac&list=UUxz5R9YQMRW5QqElbAlMqRw#&fs=1
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: azozeo on September 06, 2014, 05:05:20 PM
Earth changes events for August 2014
http://www.youtube.com/v/c4NSdO22ldc#&fs=1
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: azozeo on September 06, 2014, 05:31:43 PM
Graphic warning on this one !
http://www.youtube.com/v/y5hs1-RKdeM#&fs=1
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: knarf on September 06, 2014, 06:04:17 PM
I watched the whole video....some devastating stuff. But, I do not believe that Jesus is coming back to do whatever he is supposed to do to save us, or our planet. If that is the magical formula for all the devastation on the planet now, that only the Christians believers will be ok? Total nonsense. There have been at least 200 people predicting what will happen in the 21st century......what about Nostradamus, William Blake, Aldous Huxly, and on and on and on. The Bible is a fantasy book....maybe Santa Claus has just had it with the world ( we have all been bad ) and he is using all his magical power to create all these calamities?
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: azozeo on September 07, 2014, 03:40:16 AM
It wasn't my intent to push any salvation agenda's here. It was only posted to give the
viewer a 20 min. video on recent global events.
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: knarf on September 07, 2014, 03:53:45 AM
Cool, i understand!
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: azozeo on September 07, 2014, 04:10:43 AM
22 after ........ The Movie !
Double butter on the popcorn please
22 After on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/99455948)
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: azozeo on September 07, 2014, 05:10:32 AM
I need to caution folks here on this new movie that I posted.
GRIM would be the best word for this subject.
It deals with life after the collapse has happened.
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: knarf on September 07, 2014, 04:28:19 PM
Watched the video...... it is very appropriate for the DOOMstead Diner.
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: azozeo on September 07, 2014, 05:37:05 PM
Watched the video...... it is very appropriate for the DOOMstead Diner.
Yes, thank you for watching. I wonder what year this will happen in.
I'm placing my bets on 2017/18 ish.... maybe sooner
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: azozeo on September 08, 2014, 04:52:33 AM
Here's the latest video from Astral Traveler's channel on space weather
http://www.youtube.com/v/f6Th1ONDEYs&list=UUVBT_7f-2uqx_DgivGiN74g#&fs=1
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: azozeo on September 09, 2014, 12:59:14 PM
Strong M-class earth facing flare & CME released from our Sun
http://www.youtube.com/v/fv5Xs2aIpzg&list=UUxz5R9YQMRW5QqElbAlMqRw#&fs=1
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: azozeo on September 10, 2014, 05:07:14 PM
Earth facing X class flare released from the Sun
http://www.youtube.com/v/eL-exdUlE88&list=UUFjOi1ZpZVErr8EYxg8t1dQ#&fs=1
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: azozeo on September 10, 2014, 05:16:42 PM
More info on the Earth facing X class flare
http://www.youtube.com/v/0QqoOcMJvJY&list=UUaVp-iXRPfiSxbkhmi56IHQ#&fs=1
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: azozeo on September 11, 2014, 09:04:00 AM
X class flair update
http://www.youtube.com/v/qudbT7dGGa0&list=UUpPGJXgbwBmkIp291W0PCMw#&fs=1
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: azozeo on September 11, 2014, 01:34:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/V3Bjzp8muno&list=UUxz5R9YQMRW5QqElbAlMqRw#&fs=1
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: azozeo on September 12, 2014, 11:08:37 AM
Here's the latest Sun/Earth connection data from Astral Traveler's Channel.
http://www.youtube.com/v/t6FLUkS099k&list=UUVBT_7f-2uqx_DgivGiN74g#&fs=1

@RE.... I hope this data helps with your earth's core heating research
It seems we're the only 2 here that get that memo.
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: azozeo on September 12, 2014, 02:27:58 PM
Latest solar impact data
http://www.youtube.com/v/qgGcKR-P6lI&list=UUxz5R9YQMRW5QqElbAlMqRw#&fs=1
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: azozeo on September 12, 2014, 04:20:20 PM
Rare calico lobster turns up at Maine bait shop

Created: 09/11/2014 7:52 AM
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BETHEL, Maine (AP) — The owner of a Maine bait and tackle shop says she found a rare calico-colored lobster that was caught off the state's coast.

Sarah Lane says the crustacean, covered in orange blotches, appeared in a crate of lobsters brought from the Pemaquid Lobster Co-op in Bristol last weekend. The University of Maine says the odds of finding one are about one in 30 million.

Lane named the lobster "Freckles."

Lane owns Bethel Bait Tackle & More in western Maine, 14 miles from the New Hampshire border. She says the lobster will be donated to the Maine State Aquarium in West Boothbay Harbor.

Maine lobstermen appeared to catch a pair of even more uncommon albino lobsters last week. A lobster expert later said the lobsters are actually very light blue.
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: azozeo on October 02, 2014, 04:21:30 AM
The latest news from the Swerus Project in the Laptev Sea
http://www.youtube.com/v/KzKkZ95npXU#&fs=1
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: azozeo on December 03, 2014, 10:46:05 AM
Earth Changes Nov. 2014

http://www.youtube.com/v/yhgenVHgykE&list=UU9-aSGgj7pVXFEnd-iFzVdA&fs=1
Title: Re: The New Nature - Sibearians dying in 48 hrs of mental fatigue from the cold
Post by: azozeo on December 04, 2014, 05:22:31 PM
http://www.sott.net/article/289778-Ice-storm-with-deep-snow-in-Serbia-People-experiencing-mental-breakdown-after-48-hours-without-electricity-water-and-heating (http://www.sott.net/article/289778-Ice-storm-with-deep-snow-in-Serbia-People-experiencing-mental-breakdown-after-48-hours-without-electricity-water-and-heating)
Title: Re: The New Nature - Sao Paulo has 2 months of water
Post by: azozeo on December 04, 2014, 05:24:11 PM
http://www.desdemonadespair.net/2014/12/sao-paulo-taps-emergency-water-reserves.html (http://www.desdemonadespair.net/2014/12/sao-paulo-taps-emergency-water-reserves.html)
Title: Re: The New Nature - Sao Paulo has 2 months of water
Post by: RE on December 04, 2014, 08:37:13 PM
http://www.desdemonadespair.net/2014/12/sao-paulo-taps-emergency-water-reserves.html (http://www.desdemonadespair.net/2014/12/sao-paulo-taps-emergency-water-reserves.html)

We should start a Betting Pool on which will be the first major Big Shity to have to be Abandoned due to drought. Vegas? Phoenix? Austin? Sao Paolo?

RE
Title: Re: The New Nature - Sao Paulo has 2 months of water
Post by: jdwheeler42 on December 04, 2014, 08:53:09 PM
http://www.desdemonadespair.net/2014/12/sao-paulo-taps-emergency-water-reserves.html (http://www.desdemonadespair.net/2014/12/sao-paulo-taps-emergency-water-reserves.html)
We should start a Betting Pool on which will be the first major Big Shity to have to be Abandoned due to drought. Vegas? Phoenix? Austin? Sao Paolo?
I think we need to define terms... if by "Abandoned" you mean "population 0", I don't think any will be in my lifetime.  If you put a threshold of say 90% reduction from peak population, I'd say it'll happen in the next 15 years.  And my guess is it won't be someplace we think of as a "desert" city like Vegas or Pheonix.
Title: Re: The New Nature - Sao Paulo has 2 months of water
Post by: Surly1 on December 05, 2014, 01:40:48 AM
http://www.desdemonadespair.net/2014/12/sao-paulo-taps-emergency-water-reserves.html (http://www.desdemonadespair.net/2014/12/sao-paulo-taps-emergency-water-reserves.html)
We should start a Betting Pool on which will be the first major Big Shity to have to be Abandoned due to drought. Vegas? Phoenix? Austin? Sao Paolo?
I think we need to define terms... if by "Abandoned" you mean "population 0", I don't think any will be in my lifetime.  If you put a threshold of say 90% reduction from peak population, I'd say it'll happen in the next 15 years.  And my guess is it won't be someplace we think of as a "desert" city like Vegas or Pheonix.

Who would your candidates be?
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: azozeo on December 05, 2014, 02:24:58 AM
We need to do 2 categories.....
International & domestic.
My vote is for Sao Paulo for Int'l & sin city for domestic.
Lake Mead is 20 ft from suckin' air
Title: Graph of the Day: Number of natural disasters, 1900-2012
Post by: Surly1 on December 07, 2014, 06:19:15 AM

Graph of the Day: Number of natural disasters, 1900-2012 (http://www.desdemonadespair.net/2014/12/graph-of-day-number-of-natural.html)
 

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/-2SepzG5zMPk/VINGMQpuLaI/AAAAAAAAaPo/tLnKEBjw-EU/image%25255B1%25255D.png?imgmax=800) (http://hdr.undp.org/en/2014-report/download)
(UNDP) – More frequent and intense environmental disasters are destroying lives, livelihoods, physical infrastructure and fragile ecosystems. They can impair human capabilities and threaten human development in all countries— especially in the poorest and most vulnerable. Higher income and socioeconomic status are associated with greater ability to absorb losses and higher resilience. Women, people with disabilities and racial and ethnic minorities may face greater barriers to recovering from disasters, partly because they have fewer personal assets and unequal access to support. Children, women and the elderly are particularly vulnerable.

Natural disasters are increasing in frequency and intensity. Between 1901 and 1910 there were 82 recorded disasters, but between 2003 and 2012 there were more than 4,000. Even allowing for better recording, the increase is substantial. Particularly worrying is the much greater incidence of hydrological and meteorological disasters (figure 2.11). Although fatalities from natural disasters appear to be declining, the number of people affected is increasing.

The frequency and severity of heat waves, floods, droughts and heavy precipitation have been linked to climate change. These extremes inflict exceptionally high economic and social costs. Moreover, there is growing scientific evidence that human action is responsible for warming the atmosphere and oceans, rising sea levels and some climate extremes. Global warming increases the likelihood of severe, pervasive and irreversible impacts. So, some of these weather extremes could be potentially prevented, or at least lessened. Climate change and environmental degradation are major threats to human development. Action to reduce these vulnerabilities, including a global agreement on climate change negotiations, will be fundamental to securing and sustaining human development.
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: azozeo on December 09, 2014, 02:49:01 PM
Earth Changes report from Sott

http://www.youtube.com/v/d4G_I7UwWe0&list=UUKSr1nlWwCQzYbW_wUU8A3w&fs=1
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: Petty Tyrant on December 09, 2014, 07:17:46 PM
Children, women and the elderly are particularly vulnerable.

Why? Are men pushing and shoving to the front of the line for food aid then punching their parents wife and kids if they try and have some? When floodwaters rise are the men simply using their extra height to keep their nose above water instead of holding their children higher? I know the role of provider is an opressive patriarchal concept redundant within a nanny state, but its a little resistant to primitive urges of mate guarding and ensuring spreading genes. Who knew 'women and children first' for liferafts and parachutes, or parachuted food drops would not be followed.

Welfare departments do have to place homeless women and children in hotels or refuges while single men are just given a list of phone numbers for shelters, and if they dont make it in the only other option is prison.
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: azozeo on December 09, 2014, 07:29:24 PM
Children, women and the elderly are particularly vulnerable.

Why? Are men pushing and shoving to the front of the line for food aid then punching their parents wife and kids if they try and have some? When floodwaters rise are the men simply using their extra height to keep their nose above water instead of holding their children higher? I know the role of provider is an opressive patriarchal concept redundant within a nanny state, but its a little resistant to primitive urges of mate guarding and ensuring spreading genes. Who knew 'women and children first' for liferafts and parachutes, or parachuted food drops would not be followed.

Welfare departments do have to place homeless women and children in hotels or refuges while single men are just given a list of phone numbers for shelters, and if they dont make it in the only other option is prison.

Well said........
Title: Wicked Winds Whip The Last Great Frontier
Post by: RE on February 07, 2015, 07:53:28 PM
We are into Day 3 of constant High Winds, steady 40 MPH with gusts to 70 and temps in the teens.  It is freaking nasty out there, just getting in and out of the car is tough!

This is the longest high winds stretch in quite a few years, and normally the gales come in October-November, not in February.

I wanna do some BBQing 2morrow, but unless the wind dies down it's out of the question, my BBQ would blow away in the wind.

Fortunately, I am stocked up here on beer, so I don't have to leave the digs until Monday work.  :icon_sunny:

I'd be interested to see how much juice a small wind turbine couldd produce with these wind speeds.  You would only need a very small fan blade to turn the alternator, and you could probably use a really heavy duty truck alternator for this...

OK, found one for $549!  The Wind Blue! (http://www.windbluepower.com/Breeze_High_Wind_Generator_Kit_p/cy-high-kit.htm)

http://www.youtube.com/v/0ejWMGXalb0?feature=player_embedded

WindBlue

"Breeze" Wind Generator Kit

Best Suited for Areas with Average Winds Above 10 MPH

 
 
 
 

 


 
 
 

Complete Wind Generator Kit features the following:

 

Generator Features:

It is built using Brand New GM Delco alternator components including NEW Stator Coils, factory balanced Stainless Steel shaft. Replacement bearings and parts will be available for years.

 

Rotor Blade Features:


These are NOT Cheap Thin Aluminum blades. A Hail Storm will not damage them and Winds up to 100 MPH will not Bend them

Generator Mount Features:

 

Low Friction Teflon Pivot Washer for Smooth Yaw Movement in the Lightest Breeze. A First for Kits in this Class

 

Have you seen some of the Ads on EBay and some internet sites for other Delco Alternator Conversion Wind Generator Kits claiming outputs of "800 Watts" - "1000 Watts" or even More ?? Have you read the fine print at what wind speed they are said to be making this power at ??

Well here it is in BIG PRINT

Over 70 Miles Per Hour !!

In most areas of the country the wind only blows over 70 MPH maybe twice a year during a Large Thunderstorm and you're in the storm cellar hoping the roof is still on when you come out!!

The fact is in most areas of the country the average winds are less than 20 MPH. But if you live in an area with average winds Above 15 MPH than this kit is for you. Specifically designed for Higher Wind areas, This unit cuts-in and starts charging a 12 Volt battery in a 10 MPH wind. No gimmicks or fancy sales pitch just the REAL TRUTH.

The chart below represents the actual output of this kit. We are not afraid to show you our actual output chart. Others may sell wind generator kits based on maximum output in Hurricane Force Winds but we want to let YOU make an Intelligent Decision based on the Everyday Output from our Kits.

 

Chart represents actual charge into a 12 Volt Battery.

 

And don't forget to check out our FAQ Page to help answer some of your questions but feel free to send an e-mail to questions@windbluepower.com if you need further information.

 

Proudly made in the USA


ONE of these would provide me enough juice to run ALL my electric stuff, including the fridge on windy days!  With 4 of them, I could even do cooking and run a small electric heater!  :icon_sunny:

RE
Title: Re: Wicked Winds
Post by: Eddie on February 08, 2015, 08:56:23 AM
I have one just like it in the garage. Mounting one is the hardest part. Where you are a 20 ft pipe would be adequate.

 But in that kind of wind you have to worry about it being blown apart. My friend Mike in AZ has simple tech to deal with high wind. He only uses aluminum blades, which are easy and cheap to replace, and he's rigged these tilt-up mounts that allow the unit to rotate 90 degrees when the gusts hit, depowering them. It works well up to 55 mph. Then you need to be able to get it down and out of the wind.

http://www.mikeswindmillshop.com/product/sp-73-80-high-wind-tilt (http://www.mikeswindmillshop.com/product/sp-73-80-high-wind-tilt)

If you buy one, I recommend Mike. He builds them by hand, himself, and he's been doing it for a long time. He will provide good support.

Title: Re: Wicked Winds
Post by: jdwheeler42 on February 08, 2015, 10:17:13 AM
But in that kind of wind you have to worry about it being blown apart. My friend Mike in AZ has simple tech to deal with high wind. He only uses aluminum blades, which are easy and cheap to replace, and he's rigged these tilt-up mounts that allow the unit to rotate 90 degrees when the gusts hit, depowering them. It works well up to 55 mph. Then you need to be able to get it down and out of the wind.
The other answer is to deploy a vertical-axis wind turbine (VAWT).  They are independent of wind direction (horizontally) and since they work on a pressure differential based on the shape facing the wind versus the shape facing away, as the wind increases the speed on one side, it decreases it on the other, so they are self-braking.

Of course, the trade-off is that they are not as efficient in slow, steady winds as horizontal-axis wind turbines (HAWT).  So, which is optimal depends a lot on your wind profile.  However, if you have multiple HAWTs, they create turbulence which interfere with each other, so you can pack an array of VAWTs closer than HAWTs, getting higher energy outputs per acre, albeit at potentially higher capital costs.
Title: Re: Wicked Winds
Post by: Eddie on February 08, 2015, 11:12:35 AM
It will soon be two years since I took Mike's course, and I still have NO functional turbine going of any kind, so I can't say much....but the last time I checked, several months back, there was only one small vertical axis turbine for sale commercially, and it had to be ordered from Europe. Vertical axis turbines have much to recommend them, but also their own set of problems.
Title: Re: Wicked Winds
Post by: RE on February 08, 2015, 01:33:29 PM
I have one just like it in the garage. Mounting one is the hardest part. Where you are a 20 ft pipe would be adequate.

 But in that kind of wind you have to worry about it being blown apart. My friend Mike in AZ has simple tech to deal with high wind. He only uses aluminum blades, which are easy and cheap to replace, and he's rigged these tilt-up mounts that allow the unit to rotate 90 degrees when the gusts hit, depowering them. It works well up to 55 mph. Then you need to be able to get it down and out of the wind.

http://www.mikeswindmillshop.com/product/sp-73-80-high-wind-tilt (http://www.mikeswindmillshop.com/product/sp-73-80-high-wind-tilt)

If you buy one, I recommend Mike. He builds them by hand, himself, and he's been doing it for a long time. He will provide good support.

According to the promotional ad, the Wind Blue stands up to 100 mph winds.

Quote
These are NOT Cheap Thin Aluminum blades. A Hail Storm will not damage them and Winds up to 100 MPH will not Bend them

There are a few people around here who have Wind turbines up, and after the wind storms I haven't seen any damage to them.  They are more the large propeller designs though.

Still blowing up a storm out there today.  No BBQ. :(

RE
Title: Re: Wicked Winds
Post by: jdwheeler42 on February 08, 2015, 04:29:54 PM
the last time I checked, several months back, there was only one small vertical axis turbine for sale commercially, and it had to be ordered from Europe. Vertical axis turbines have much to recommend them, but also their own set of problems.
LOL yes, extremely limited commercial availability is one of the major drawbacks of VAWTs... I figured that would not be a problem for a man with his own welder ;)
Title: Re: Wicked Winds
Post by: RE on February 09, 2015, 12:49:50 AM
Wind still incredibly high out there, I just got back inside from a Smoking trip into the elements.  LOL.

Now 4 solid days of this shit, and it's really starting to feel like "the end of the world".  I mean really, if you can't even go outside and peacefully smoke a Cancerette, things are pretty bad.   ::)

According to the graphs on Weather Underground, we're supposed to drop back to normal 7mph wind speeds tomorrow.  I sure hope so, because this is getting really tiresome.  Also supposed to see balmy temps in the 30s for the next week.

WHY this huge pressure differential here this last week though?  No storms were identified that I know of.  What is it that is whipping up the wind here right now?

One interesting effect of the high winds for so many days is the small snow accumulation we had is all GONE.  Without Melting.  Its being Sublimated, turned straight from solid Ice to Water Vapor.  My Ford SUV which I never drive these days was covered in snow a few days ago, now its clear of any snow, even though the temps never went above 15F for the last week.  It didn't just Blow Away, since if it did it would be in a pile somewhere else.  It's just GONE, into the atmosphere.

Glad I didn't waste my energy clearing the snow off of it.

RE
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: azozeo on May 27, 2015, 04:24:11 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/qolE0l71fRQ&fs=1
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: RE on May 27, 2015, 04:37:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/qolE0l71fRQ&fs=1

CRAP!

And I thought the Dead Crickets on my back porch were a Bad Omen!

This is not looking good.

RE
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: azozeo on May 27, 2015, 04:42:28 AM
All is not well in the merry old land of Oz
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: RE on May 27, 2015, 05:21:15 AM
All is not well in the merry old land of Oz

I am going to put this one up as the Feature Video on Diner TV on the Homepage.

RE
Title: Re: The New Nature
Post by: azozeo on May 27, 2015, 11:41:29 AM
All is not well in the merry old land of Oz

I am going to put this one up as the Feature Video on Diner TV on the Homepage.

RE

Glad to be able to help. It's a doozie !
Title: Re: The New Nature - Giant plasma tubes floating above Earth
Post by: azozeo on June 06, 2015, 10:27:42 AM
http://www.sciencealert.com/australian-student-confirms-that-giant-plasma-tubes-are-floating-above-earth (http://www.sciencealert.com/australian-student-confirms-that-giant-plasma-tubes-are-floating-above-earth)