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The Kitchen Sink / Re: Gaining a more nuanced perspective on collapse
« on: February 23, 2020, 07:07:51 AM »
Sorry I misrepresented you....so as you say.....you really want people like me to bomb government buildings.....like Timothy McVey, more or less. But with the aim of saving the planett and building better government.  Sounds a lot like the Unabomber Manifesto.....

So I wouldn't die on the barricades....I'd be shot by police as a terrorist or I'd rot in prison. No thank you anyway.


Fools and knaves....after ten years of studying collapse. I put most of the known writers on the subject into one of those two categories. Most are fools, pursuing some ideal. Don Quixotes of Doom is what I call them. The woods are full of 'em. Almost all the cut-and posters here fit that mold.

But there are some I'd call knaves....knaves have an agenda.....to get something from the people they influence. Those would include anybody who runs a site that has ad income, begs for Patreon support, or (like yourself) tries to organize people into armed groups  or into committing various acts of violent resistance to BAU.

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My definition includes people who are willing to use collapse (which is a real circumstance we all have to deal with) as a lever arm to get people to support some highly questionable agenda they see as fundamental, either to their own ideals, or to obtain money, or both.

You, sir, are  a knave. A manipulator.

You came here originally hoping to find some willing eco-terrorists you could assist in carrying out some monkey-wrenching. You, in your house in the jungle, would have never been much at risk.....too bad nobody who read you here was willing. The idealists here are not young and hot-headed...and I'm not even an idealist....so it was never going to be me. I'm just glad there wasn't some dumb schmuck more than willing to participate. Maybe you've had better luck elsewhere. I hope not.

No alert? Maybe you dropped in at random a few days after I mentioned you for the first time in a year?  Amazing coincidence, I guess.

Global Capitalism is going to collapse regardless. You (and XR) need not worry. If you want to see a chart that's gone exponential, that's the one to look at. Wealth inequality is completely unsustainable.

Wealth is not merely moving uphill. It's all concentrating at the very nose-bleed tip-top. The .01% of the 1 %. At this rate, soon, one guy will own everything.

Therefore, something will change. If consumers have no money to drive the engine of global capitalism, it seizes.

 I'm not sure how it happens exactly. Perhaps the socialists really will have their day soon, and at the ballot box.....if the conservatives (Republicans here) don't completely corrupt the constitution . They are well on their way to trying to subvert the actual election process, rather than just being satisfied with getting most of what they want, most of the time. It's been mostly accomplished at the state level with Koch money, while the Democrats were busy diversifying themselves into irrelevancy. We're about to be Brazil.

I now think we see the US continuing to limp along....while much of the world gets de-powered in a cascading waterfall of collapse.

The rest of this century will see more mass migrations that we can even begin to think about....it's just starting.....








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To the Fish Market, that is......you know, the one the Chinese are blaming.

THE NEW YORK POST

Opinion: Don’t buy China’s story: The coronavirus may have leaked from a lab

Published: Feb 22, 2020 3:39 p.m. ET

       
 
How many microbiology labs are there in China that handle viruses like the coronavirus? Only one - located in Wuhan that just happens to be the epicenter of the epidemic


By
STEVEN
W. MOSHER

At an emergency meeting in Beijing held last Friday, Chinese leader Xi Jinping spoke about the need to contain the coronavirus and set up a system to prevent similar epidemics in the future.

A national system to control biosecurity risks must be put in place “to protect the people’s health,” Xi said, because lab safety is a “national security” issue.

Xi didn’t actually admit that the coronavirus now devastating large swathes of China had escaped from one of the country’s bioresearch labs. But the very next day, evidence emerged suggesting that this is exactly what happened, as the Chinese Ministry of Science and Technology released a new directive entitled: “Instructions on strengthening biosecurity management in microbiology labs that handle advanced viruses like the novel coronavirus.”

Read that again. It sure sounds like China has a problem keeping dangerous pathogens in test tubes where they belong, doesn’t it? And just how many “microbiology labs” are there in China that handle “advanced viruses like the novel coronavirus”?

It turns out that in all of China there is only one. And this one is located in the Chinese city of Wuhan that just happens to be . . . the epicenter of the epidemic.

That’s right. China’s only Level 4 microbiology lab that is equipped to handle deadly coronaviruses, called the National Biosafety Laboratory, is part of the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

What’s more, the People’s Liberation Army’s top expert in biological warfare, a Maj. Gen. Chen Wei, was dispatched to Wuhan at the end of January to help with the effort to contain the outbreak.

According to the PLA Daily, Gen. Chen has been researching coronaviruses since the SARS outbreak of 2003, as well as Ebola and anthrax. This would not be her first trip to the Wuhan Institute of Virology either, since it is one of only two bioweapons research labs in all of China.

Does that suggest to you that the novel coronavirus, now known as SARS-CoV-2, may have escaped from that very lab, and that Gen. Chen’s job is to try and put the genie back in the bottle, as it were? It does to me.

Add to this China’s history of similar incidents. Even the deadly SARS virus has escaped — twice — from the Beijing lab where it was — and probably is — being used in experiments. Both “man-made” epidemics were quickly contained, but neither would have happened at all if proper safety precautions had been taken.

And then there is this little-known fact: Some Chinese researchers are in the habit of selling their laboratory animals to street vendors after they have finished experimenting on them.

You heard me right.

Instead of properly disposing of infected animals by cremation, as the law requires, they sell them on the side to make a little extra cash. Or, in some cases, a lot of extra cash. One Beijing researcher, now in jail, made a million dollars selling his monkeys and rats on the live animal market, where they eventually wound up in someone’s stomach.

Also fueling suspicions about SARS-CoV-2’s origins is the series of increasingly lame excuses offered by the Chinese authorities as people began to sicken and die.

They first blamed a seafood market not far from the Institute of Virology, even though the first documented cases of Covid-19 (the illness caused by SARS-CoV-2) involved people who had never set foot there. Then they pointed to snakes, bats and even a cute little scaly anteater called a pangolin as the source of the virus.

I don’t buy any of this. It turns out that snakes don’t carry coronaviruses and that bats aren’t sold at a seafood market. Neither are pangolins, for that matter, an endangered species valued for their scales as much as for their meat.

The evidence points to SARS-CoV-2 research being carried out at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. The virus may have been carried out of the lab by an infected worker or crossed over into humans when they unknowingly dined on a lab animal. Whatever the vector, Beijing authorities are now clearly scrambling to correct the serious problems with the way their labs handle deadly pathogens.

China has unleashed a plague on its own people. It’s too early to say how many in China and other countries will ultimately die for the failures of their country’s state-run microbiology labs, but the human cost will be high.

But not to worry. Xi has assured us that he is controlling biosecurity risks “to protect the people’s health.” PLA bioweapons experts are in charge.

I doubt the Chinese people will find that very reassuring. Neither should we.

Steven W. Mosher is the President of the Population Research Institute and the author of “Bully of Asia: Why China’s ‘Dream’ is the New Threat to World Order.”

This article was first published on NYPost.com

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/dont-buy-chinas-story-the-coronavirus-may-have-leaked-from-a-lab-2020-02-22

The number of active cases of Coronavirus appears to have peaked, as of February 17th.......This is the beginning of the end of this outbreak, I think, Nobody is reporting this, AFAIK.

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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-cases/



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The Diner Pantry / Re: Cam Makes Some Snap Worthy Casserole
« on: February 23, 2020, 05:44:20 AM »
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yup too much sugar and I'm a mess. Mood swings, lethargy, I would say mild depression and messed up sleep patterns. Even the cola with dinner messed up my sleep. If I make some more hummus I'll post but I did enough in the instant pot for at least 3 batches of hummus so next month maybe. Doom pinterest! Ha! Love it. Stay irreverant
Cheers   NF

I gotta try out my family's instant pot some more. My mom loves it.

Adventurer daughter (the one who lives with us) got one for Christmas. It's very nice addition to the kitchen.

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Marathon Man Newz / Re: Marc Blyth On Trumpism
« on: February 22, 2020, 09:35:05 AM »
Left or right is not an issue for me.  I'd just like to live in a meritocracy with universal health care.

I like what he said about 'Hope and Change' being the test phrase for MAGA and pointing to his video screen and saying that to understand anything else you would have to watch his slides.  'And who is going to that',

Only us chickens, nobody else.

I do not agree that when Americans have exhausted all possibilities they will do the right thing.  That is a clever and amusing thing to say but it is shallow thinking and dangerous to consider in a decision.  Shallow thinking and untrue.

Meritocracy and the kind of identity politics the US modern socialists have embraced are completely incompatible. You can have one, but not the other. I too wish for a meritocracy.......and so.....

However......I think socialism is the ONLY way to do health care that makes any sense....but I'm fairly certain it won't get done anything like right, regardless. Too many powerful vested interests and too much corporate capture of the legislative part of our government...it's pretty much guaranteed to be an ongoing clusterfuck for the rest of our lives.

I don't know what Americans will do......they certainly aren't doing much now...other than what is being accomplished by demand destruction. I believe in demand destruction as a force for good. lol.

None of these talking head guys seems to be able to put it all together...the way energy and climate are related....and you might notice nobody in these audiences is asking questions that apply to that either.

EROEI and  PO........must be understood to understand what's going to happen with climate.

Thanks for taking the time to watch....and for the thoughtful reply. It's almost like a rational discussion we're having. I prefer that to what we've had going lately, believe it or not.

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The Diner Pantry / Re: Snap worthy Friday dinner; Burger and fries
« on: February 22, 2020, 08:52:10 AM »
They will put a hamburger (fries with that) on my tombstone. Oh, well, everybody dies of something, sooner or later.

Lately I've lightened up some.......but I've replaced my burger fetish with one for Chicago style hotdogs....Out of the deep-frier and into the mystery meat vat.

The bread is probably the big killer...because we screwed up wheat to gain yield generations ago..and our gut doesn't do well with it, most of us. That's apparently the real story on coronary artery disease. Cholesterol is involved, but it isn't the cause, per se.

And of course...I LOVE bread...of all kinds, but especially nice hot white-flour bread with its smooth texture and wonderful oven smell.

I ate alone last night after a dinner-time run to Home Depot to spend all my money on lumber and concrete to get started on the new boat shed...they have moved the date to this Monday to raise the lake.

I ate a deli sandwich, chicken salad,.....and much later a pre-fab chicken pie, followed by a couple of peach turnovers swilled down with a lot of milk. I have a dairy fetish too. It was organic milk, at least.

I must now get my lazy ass in gear.  The trailer is full of 16 foot 4x4's and bags of ready mix. I have to be careful with the cement. It almost crippled me last year, and I have not fully recovered. I am going to move it one bag at a time and try to handle it sensibly, in smaller. lighter loads....I was smart enough to buy the 60 pound bags this time instead of saving pennies by buying the 80 pounders that crippled me.

I'm skpping breakfast because I slept in.....maybe some buttered biscuits...all white flour.....slathered in butter. Yeah,,,,,that sounds healthy....hehehe.


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Marathon Man Newz / Re: Marc Blyth On Trumpism
« on: February 22, 2020, 08:27:04 AM »
Everything you need to know can be found on UTube...if you can tell truth from bullshit.  Most people cannot, apparently.

 I think Marc Blyth's computer analogies...... to explain the evolution of political/economic systems in the West over our lifetimes.....is pretty spot on.  I never once said the current system was not deeply flawed. This presentation gets to the heart of what's wrong with the world.....and it isn't kind to global capitalism.  But it points out some things I hadn't considered, and  I enjoy learning from this guy.....although the Scots accent is a bit much......lol.


<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/KGuaoARJYU0&fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/KGuaoARJYU0&fs=1</a>

He turns into a prick at 15:50. 

At 21:20 he has redeemed himself somewhat.  What pisses me off is that the 1965 labor share of national income looks pretty good.  He blamed it on labor.  It was greed, Vietnam and other things like oil.

24:30 A very nice admission.

36:10 Damn heavy, I agree.

51:50 The trend he suggests reminds me of reading about how all the German guns began firing at once in WWII.

53:50 Not the same shit different smell.  He has been setting up his false equivocation for a while.  I know what to look for now.  He busts a move.  I'll see it.

He sort of shows concern for millennials somewhere here.

1:09:45 climate change

He quickly moves into Stephen Pinker Techno Future Land and total delusion comes out.

 :spacecraft:

1:15:15 He shows he has taken the Penn And Teller master class.


1:23:50

Q: Will Trump win again?
A: Yes

I don't care for the ending so much.  Pompous.

On my 1st listen I had to stop when he got to Brexit...so I hadn't listened to the climate change response. I see climate change differently than he does, but he is pretty spot on with the cancer analogy.

There will come a time when we pull out all the stops on TRYING to deal with climate change......but that doesn't mean shit if the tipping points have been passed. That's the part he doesn't get, imho. And tipping points have likely already been passed.......but slow ones like ice, that take hundreds of years to do their  damage.

And the one thing McPherson saw through the lens of his training.......which was the ongoing extinction of other species....nobody much gets that.

We live in a commensal world with almost infinite feedback loops.....Bacteria, fungus, nitrogen fixing plants....etc, etc......Humans won't be living well on a sterile planet.

He predicted the 1st Trump win (and I predicted the opposite) so I don't like the ending either, but I have to accept that he does have some credibility.

The Trumps win because the Democrats always self-destruct and cannibalize each other. I see it happening again, as usual.  Maybe the time has come when America does swing broadly socialist.....don't get me wrong......that would (imho) be preferable to more Trump looting and power-grabbing and saber-rattling and random acts of global geopolitical stupidity..

But my guess is that there are still enough American voters who will equate a mild socialist reformer with full-on-communism, which they were deeply programmed to hate....for Trump to just say  "Bernie is a communist who wants to take away your health insurance and your social security" (and yes I know he really wants to do the opposite --but old voters are really dumb and misinformed)...and so Trump still wins.

At some point the ant-Trump will arise...some younger version of Bernie with great charisma...and we will swing HARD to the left.....so eat your fiber and maybe you live to see it.



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Marathon Man Newz / Peter Zeihan on Global Geopolitics
« on: February 22, 2020, 07:40:47 AM »
Peter Zeihan was one the geniuses  at Stratfor. Whatever you think of them....right-wing think tank, Deep State spin-off...whatever.....Zero Hedge was happy too cut-and paste them for the last decade, anytime they made anything public.....although most of what they produced wasn't.

Stratfor was about understanding the REALITY of global geopolitics........and  (hint) it was never about making the world safe for democracy. They sold their intel to institutions, corporations, government agencies, governments, and ultra high net worth individuals.  Stratfor is local here to Austin, and Keihan lives here too, I think, still. Zeihan has his own company now.

Zeihan is speaking widely, and this one is an up-to-date take on his POV. Worth understanding, even though none of you is apt to agree with his politics.


<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/jT6HFCAFDgU&fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/jT6HFCAFDgU&fs=1</a>

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Marathon Man Newz / Marc Blyth On Trumpism
« on: February 21, 2020, 10:40:55 AM »
Everything you need to know can be found on UTube...if you can tell truth from bullshit.  Most people cannot, apparently.

 I think Marc Blyth's computer analogies...... to explain the evolution of political/economic systems in the West over our lifetimes.....is pretty spot on.  I never once said the current system was not deeply flawed. This presentation gets to the heart of what's wrong with the world.....and it isn't kind to global capitalism.  But it points out some things I hadn't considered, and  I enjoy learning from this guy.....although the Scots accent is a bit much......lol.


<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/KGuaoARJYU0&fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/KGuaoARJYU0&fs=1</a>


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The Kitchen Sink / Re: Gaining a more nuanced perspective on collapse
« on: February 21, 2020, 10:19:02 AM »
Eddie: Our old friend Palloy thought that.....and he could still be proven correct.

Cam: I don't think I've heard of this Palloy guy. Was he once a regular on the Diner?

Palloy: Yes.  Still chopping wood and carrying water, although at MUCH slower rates and lighter loads.
I NEVER hated Eddie, I just am completely opposed to his mindset and the Great Amerikan Dream.
Despite what he says to the contrary, he was totally absorbed into the Amerikan propaganda :
work hard, "one of the good things about being self-employed is not being forced to retire at 70",
go to church every week, commies are bad, Putin is a thug, Kim is an inexperienced and unpredictable leader,
Iran's leaders are religious fanatics, Venezuela is authoritarian, (I forget what's wrong with Cuba, but they are BAD too).
He even voted for Trump.

The Collapse is going to be SLOW, but different rates across the world, and from multiple causes, and DD will be discussing them for ever.
One cause will be Peak Oil and Peak Energy, the transition to Renewables can never be completed, because there is not enough Energy to spare.
Another cause will be Climate Change.  Climate Change won't render the whole world uninhabitable overnight,
but it will cause increasing frequency of droughts, wildfires, floods, cyclones, coastal inundation and frost in springtime.
"We must support our farmers/fire-fighters/flood-rescuers" until crop-failure, fire and flood insurance becomes too expensive.
"We must protect the people from all infectious diseases", until we can't.
"We must ensure everyone has enough to eat, and clean water to drink", until we don't.
"We must have law and order", until the Police don't turn up for work.
"We must found a colony on Mars", until we realize the energy budget for it all,
and how much Martian "gold" will cost per ton delivered here on earth.

The charts for World GDP and World Energy Consumption over the last 200 years are identical.
About 90% of Energy Consumption is from fossil fuels, which creates GHG emissions that cause Climate Change.
So to stop Climate Change, we need to LOWER GDP.  Its an indisputable fact.
Ask Eddie, he'll tell you everything you need to know about why that's untrue and absurd, but its true all the same.
The only solution is to lower GDP, but it will never happen because the owners of the means of production (including propaganda) won't allow it.
Democracy has failed to do the will of the majority in every country where it has been tried, and it will fail over and over again in the future.
Switch off the electricity and see how fast it collapses.

Like every communist I ever met, you can only see the world in black-and-white. Your world is a fucking comic book.

To you, I'm the poster boy for a system you've hated for most of your life. In reality, I'm just a guy who grew up in that system, and tried to make the best of it. If I'd grown up under some other system, I'd have no doubt done the same.

Some people live their lives rebelling against something or other........and fighting for the changes they want to see...and on and on...and that's fine...but in my view it doesn't make them superior.....and it damn sure doesn't help them get along in the world...unless they ride the Revolution into power.....then they, without fail, become instantly corrupted......and just like the oligarchs they threw out.

Retirement is a scam and you know it. it's the brass ring for the working stiff, something to keep him getting up and getting to the coffee pot so he can show up for his meaningless job for 40 years.

Do you think Picasso wanted to retire at  65? Or Da Vinci?

How about your homeboys Stalin and Mao?

Nah, they were too busy causing the only mass-die-offs in modern history to retire. Too busy breaking more eggs to make some more omelets for the Workers.

Look at what they left.

Russia is run by the world's richest thug. His cut...half of everything.

China is run by the politburo using capitalist money to pay the workers their $5 a day. Progress (but lots of pollution).

And you did and still do hate me, or at least what I represent. Actually you always MAKE me into what you WANT to hate. You don't even see the real me. Nor do you wish to. You just need a bad guy in your comic book.

Btw, I did NOT vote for Trump, never supported Trump, and consider him more dangerous than Kim and all the Ayatollahs put together. I voted for Obama the first time....but he disappointed me mightily.....and so I wrote in a throw-away vote for Ron Paul in 2012. Obama won anyway. I voted for Clinton in 2016.....even though I really, really detested her and most of what she stood for.. I seldom am happy about voting. It's an exercise in frustration. There are never any good choices. I vote for the less bad..as best I can tell what that is. Often it's almost a toss-up.

And.....I'm not a Christian...at least not in the conventional sense of the word......although I was brought up in that religion. I'm not a participant in any organized religion, nor am I really a member of any organized political machine. I distrust most groups. I don't like decisions that are made by committee, and  I try to go my own way most of the time.

I vote against the worst idiots I see running for office and generally watch them get elected, like Trump, and Bush before him.

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The Collapse is going to be SLOW, but different rates across the world, and from multiple causes, and DD will be discussing them for ever.
One cause will be Peak Oil and Peak Energy, the transition to Renewables can never be completed, because there is not enough Energy to spare.
Another cause will be Climate Change.  Climate Change won't render the whole world uninhabitable overnight,
but it will cause increasing frequency of droughts, wildfires, floods, cyclones, coastal inundation and frost in springtime.

All correct in my estimation. If you've been reading me, nothing I've said would contradict any of that.

I suspect you you just set up some kind of alert that let you know someone (me) mentioned you here. Or......have you been lurking the whole time?

I see that rumors of your death must have been greatly exaggerated.   lol..

Good. I'm glad. I admire you personally, in spite of your politics, which annoy me. For most of my life I tried to  ignore politics. But it isn't easy.

I mentioned you because it was always my impression you had a good handle on the IPCC climate models, and understood them way better than anyone here, especially me, since I never paid them the slightest attention. I figured the reality was worse than they were predicting and McPherson was probably more or less right.

And I figured CO2 would keep increasing because BAU would never voluntarily power down....no way, no how.

As it turns out I was wrong about my first assumption....so far the second assumption has held true. I still think most of the powering down will be forced....but it might come (as I remember you suggesting) in time to prevent the very worst of climate change.

Since you haven't been around......I finally decided to study the climate models and look at the data..because the media is nothing but lies....on both sides.

Turns out they weren't too bad, and maybe the mid-range predictions are closer to reality...at least so far. It is very early......I just wanted to know if climate change under the BAU scenarios really was going to lead to near-term extinction...since the XR people are now out there managing to convince the Great Herd of humans that it's about to happen.

My conclusion...the evidence suggests what you just wrote above....if climate change does  kill the entire human race, it will be slow and not in our lifetimes...probably not my kids lifetimes either.

The XR people aren't well educated on climate. They're just more communists trying to use the "climate issue" to further their rebellion against Global Capitalism....which is the real target.

Do you really think I'm a fan of global capitalism? Think again. I'm just not a joiner of stupid lost causes. Or a willing foolish participant in civil insurrections.

I go my own way. I didn't create global capitalism, and I'm not particularly a willing participant...any more than anyone else who is in any kind of local commerce or local service position. I was born into this time and place and circumstance.

People like you...want to USE people like me......to achieve your own ends. You want to turn people into cannon fodder for your revolution. And if the means to your ends leads to me getting  killed out on the barricades, well...you have no trouble justifying that.

It's completely  Machiavellian, your approach to political change.  Unfortunately, I wasn't born stupid, nor am I the typical uneducated schmuck.......typing and cut-and-pasting other peoples ideas on the internet.

Go ahead and try to turn young Cam if you can......you have lots of help here......the Don Quixotes of Doom here are all socialists looking to provide the same outcome for everyone.

Welcome back to the Diner. I'm about done with this forum.  You can have my place at the table.

I've been investigating collapse for about ten years. I have a much different view than when first read about PO in 2010..and started trying to figure out what it all meant. I have a pretty good handle on where we're headed, both short term and longer term....and I'm tired of arguing with fools...... and also very tired of being misrepresented by knaves....you are no fool........but you are a knave.

But...nevertheless.......I'm very glad you're still alive and kicking.

I'd appreciate an update on what you make out of the current real climate literature and the current models...and the way they fit the data so far. And what you think about tipping points...and if we've reached some of them (I think we have on the ice) and how that is likely to play out. My guess......in relatively smaller ways now....but much bigger ways in a couple of hundred years.

You never lied about that stuff, I don't think. I always respected your writing on PO and on climate.





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K-Dog Off Leash Newz / Re: Oval office News <== Official white house feed.
« on: February 21, 2020, 08:30:28 AM »
If Trump wins again he'll probably use the gold to plate al the toilets in all the Trump buildings and on all the Trump golf resorts and the Trump hotels all over the world.

Gold-plated is the correct term to describe him...a gold-plated bastard.

Robert Reich, until very recently,  was a total Hillary sycophant. That's my recollection. What a little turd.


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Geopolitics / Re: Election Errata
« on: February 21, 2020, 08:20:51 AM »

He should have given the debate a pass. His pros should have foreseen that it couldn't help him. 

Hindsight being 20-20 and all. But my point was that he/his team were irresponsible AF for not prepping him better.

It just set him up to be attacked by the very people who should be pulling together to beat Trump...but who are too busy trying to out-PC each other.

You sure as hell didn't watch the same debate I did. candidates staked out sharp differences, especially on policy. This was the only debate that held my interest (for as long as it did.) Coming up on Super Tuesday nut-cutting time.

I have some sincere suggestions for what you can do with your chronic "anti-PC" white privilege horseshit. They are mostly anatomically inpossible.

Yeah, I get it. Politics makes strange bedfellows. I'm sorry to be more-or-less on the same side as you. I'd rather have you for an enemy.

I never said I watched the debate. I wouldn't waste my time...and I worked until six and went to bed very early.

So then you squatted and squeezed out an opinion on the debate without any direct evidence whatsoever?
How... utterly clarifying.

No, I read several articles that said about what I expected them to say....that Bloomberg was attacked for his past known faux pas and unpopular (with SJW's) actions.
It certainly should have been expected and he should have been primed for that. It was 100% predictable, in my view.

I was basing what I said about the other candidates on what Ive been reading about them...and their platform planks. I never watch any network TV at all.

You need to drop the ad hom potty-mouth comments aimed at me, or I'm going to fling your shit back at you, a lot harder.

You're a typical SJW. No tolerance at all for anyone who doesn't believe the same stupid shit you believe. Good luck with that.

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Surly Newz / Re: The Rudy Colludy Schadenfreude Thread
« on: February 21, 2020, 08:07:57 AM »
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I don't understand the kind of karma that's involved in that kind of action....what kind of impetus it takes to do something that they know will make their life a living hell.

To some people the chance however remote of living a life that actually means something in the scheme of things is an irresistible attraction.  The fear of it also makes other people flee from such a destiny as if their ass were on fire.  Most flee.

Do you really not understand?

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/4YbMqcQK0k4" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/4YbMqcQK0k4</a>

Unless you think ignorance is bliss Julian is a hero.

In the pile of links on my website there is this. https://www.transparency.org/. It is the link I am most proud of.  It is not the best link I have by scope of content or by look and feel.  Instead it is focused and reflects a fundamental belief in how the world should operate.  A belief that those with privilege have great disdain for.

Remembering nothing was very important to Cypher.  He chose to live in a palace of darkness knowing that as soon as he was comfortable in his palace doubts would plague him.  Cypher had to remember nothing because he knew he was choosing evil and the memory of his choice would bring him no peace.

Living. a life with meaning doesn't have to involve sacrificing yourself on the altar of stupidity.

Sorry, you have it wrong, as usual.

The matrix is a bad movie about a fantasy....it has nothing to do with reality. Most of the analogies people use, taken from that second rate screenplay...aren't what I'd call profound.

Assange took it on.himself to be a big player in the 2016 election. He could have disseminated the information he leaked in many different ways...and it would have never been traceable to him at all. But he announced, in advance, that he had bombshells that could turn the election....and then he chose to dump the info at precisely the right moment to throw a monkey wrench into the American political machine,

Looks ego-driven to me. It sure does.


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The Diner Pantry / Re: Cam Makes Some Snap Worthy Casserole
« on: February 20, 2020, 05:59:32 PM »
Nice.

Miso hungry.

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Surly Newz / Re: The Rudy Colludy Schadenfreude Thread
« on: February 20, 2020, 05:53:43 PM »
Julian Assange is in prison with bad health.  Julian is not helping anybody.  Julian needs help. You were kidding.

This is a smoking gun:

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New York Daily News editorial member Laura Nahmias literally had to buy a new laptop, because of malware she got from Rudy's own website:

That is enough to show the whole thing is manipulative crap that isn't reporting anything.  It is a dirty trick.  It is too easy to read that sentence in the context of the legitimate factual distortions but this is not a distortion.  That sentence is false.

When was the last time you knew someone who bought a new laptop because a website infected them?  That is not going to happen.  Browsers are not built to allow hardware to be changed by websites.  To provide that functionality to a browser special software has to be installed to bridge the gap.  But regardless, Wiping the disk clean and reinstalling I'll assume WINDOZE gives you the same thing as a new computer without spending any money.

I was kidding. I was satirizing....doing my best Giuliani. Sorry you think it's off-limits or something. I feel sorry enough for Assange. I certainly wish he were free.

Maybe he is a hero. I haven't made up my mind about him. I would not have done what he did, I can tell you that. He had to know it was going to result in him getting seriously jammed up with the most powerful people on earth.

I don't understand the kind of karma that's involved in that kind of action....what kind of impetus it takes to do something that they know will make their life a living hell. Make their loved-ones suffer.. And in the light of 2020 vision hindsight it doesn't look like it even had positive results......his sacrifice I mean.

On whether Rudy is responsible for his followers getting computer viruses? I don't really care....but I suppose you're probably correct. I wouldn't buy new hardware just because I got a virus...but maybe people at that level find it easier than having their hard disc wiped.

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Geopolitics / Re: Election Errata
« on: February 20, 2020, 05:41:05 PM »

He should have given the debate a pass. His pros should have foreseen that it couldn't help him. 

Hindsight being 20-20 and all. But my point was that he/his team were irresponsible AF for not prepping him better.

It just set him up to be attacked by the very people who should be pulling together to beat Trump...but who are too busy trying to out-PC each other.

You sure as hell didn't watch the same debate I did. candidates staked out sharp differences, especially on policy. This was the only debate that held my interest (for as long as it did.) Coming up on Super Tuesday nut-cutting time.

I have some sincere suggestions for what you can do with your chronic "anti-PC" white privilege horseshit. They are mostly anatomically inpossible.

Yeah, I get it. Politics makes strange bedfellows. I'm sorry to be more-or-less on the same side as you. I'd rather have you for an enemy.

I never said I watched the debate. I wouldn't waste my time...and I worked until six and went to bed very early.

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