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Brant Walsh | February 7, 2013 at 1:34 pm | Reply   

Or, in case I am not allowed to embed:
http://www.screenr.com/8z47

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Peter This dialog was taken from here http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2013/01/26/how-to-know-sandy-hook-guide-predated-massacre-technical-discussion/#comment-168398

We were discussing what happens when changing the published date of a post in WP vs doing the same in sCMS. Brant created a video presentation linked above which claimed to prove that what I said was not correct.

I replied below.



Peter | February 7, 2013 at 2:56 pm | Reply   

I can tell from the permalink in the test that you performed that the test was on a WordPress Page not a wordpress post similar to the ALS news item. The difference is your test does not have a date embedded in the permalink.


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Notice the permalink outlined in red above.

it states 'w*w.cmionline.com/revision-permalink-testing/'

if it was a post such as the news item at ALS , it would look similar to below instead.

'w*w.cmionline.com/2013/02/07/revision-permalink-testing/'

The /2013/02/07/ is the date the post was made public, 'published'.

Brant almost correctly stated elsewhere before that the  /2013/02/07/ portion of the permalink can be changed by the user  manually.

He is correct only so far as the user is able to change the format (appearance) of that portion of the url.

Instead of showing as /2013/02/07/ it can be set by a WP administrator to only show the year and month as Brant demonstrated in the area of the CMI site where the pdf is kept which showed 0nly url/2012/12/name of pdf. The admin of a site can also chose a number of other formats that do not include a date in the permalink.

The WP permalink options are shown in the screen capture below of the section of the WP admin panel allowing customization of the permalink appearance.

Click the image above to view a higher resolution version.

Although the visual format of the date portion of a post permalink can be modified, the way WP automatically inserts the 'published date' into the chosen /year/month/day/ format cannot be changed manually by the end user as Brant shows being done for a page name in the video above.

The method Brant used to change the page name is not available for changing the date portion of a post permalink. 


Peter The news feed at Arlington Schools Website is composed of posts not pages. WordPress treats posts and pages very differently for a very specific reason I will explain later.

Try the same test with a post instead. You will find it acts very differently than a page.
 


Brant Walsh | February 7, 2013 at 2:58 pm | Reply   

    I will, but keep in mind that:
    A. You can define any structure you want for permalinks in WP in settings.

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Peter agreed and the process is illustrated by the last image I inserted above.

    B. SpireCMS is not WordPress…
     
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Peter True but it is obvious from the permalink structure used by ALS within sCMS that for post feeds on the site such as /news/ and /calendar/ feeds, the format used was to automatically insert relevant dates into their permalinks.

The format '/yyyy/mm/dd/' that sCMC uses is the same as WP but the code implementing what data is automatically entered into that format is not exactly the same as WP. 

SCMS automatically enters the news item's 'created' date into the permalink.

WP automatically enters the news item's 'published' date into the permalink.

The SCMS version of the date portion of the permalink would also only be maintained automatically by the code, not manually by the end user. To allow an end user to directly modify the permalink date would defeat the whole purpose of embedding an automated date stamp in the permalink.

The difference between WP and sCMS is that in WP the end user can change /2012/12/17/ to instead read /2012/12/10/ by changing the 'published' date of the document from Dec 17 to Dec 10.

SCMS has no such option. In sCMS the permalink date is permanently set to the document's created date.

In WP the date embed in the permalink always automatically matches the published date.

That is not the case with sCMS. We know that for a fact because of the second google cache record shown below that shows the url and published dates are not the same.


In sCMS the code is written so that once a news post is created only the 'published date' can be changed. In sCMS the date in the permalink is permanent no matter how many times the 'published' date is changed. That is how it should be to avoid problems with search engines and outside links. WP can cause problems for search engines and outside links if the published date is changed after the page has been linked from the outside.

In sCMS the only way to get a copy of a news item with a different date in the permalink is to delete the original news item and then create a new copy on the date desired in the permalink.

The only way to override  that would be to change the clock on the server in San Antonio as that is the clock used on the ALS website to set the current date as demonstrated in the screen capture below.

Click the image above to view a higher resolution version.


Brant's first test is not valid.


     


Brant Walsh | February 7, 2013 at 3:09 pm | Reply   

So, as I just tested for myself, see the link below as proof… WordPress, upon changing a permalink on a POST, will remember the previously assigned permalinks and redirect to the current version of the post. The date shown as the post publish date though, can of course be chosen by the user and has no effect on the URL. I prove this by not having my permalink structure auto named based on date but on page title.

http://screenr.com/NY47

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Peter Brant again uses an example that does not include a date stamp in the permalink. He does mention that they exist and are used elswhere on the CMI site.

This test also is not valid as it does not include a date stamp in the permalink as shown below.

Click the image above to view a higher resolution version.

 Peter | February 7, 2013 at 3:21 pm | Reply   

This test is still not valid. The news feed at ALS uses dates in the url not names. To do the test properly you need to use a date based permalink.



  Peter | February 7, 2013 at 3:25 pm | Reply   

        My challenge to you when using a date based url is to created a document where the url says one date and the published date says a different one. I couldn’t do it, perhaps you can?

 Yes in WP you can change the format of how dates display in the url but you cannot change the way they function.

I’m going to continue on with the article now.
         


Brant Walsh | February 7, 2013 at 3:43 pm |

Nope, couldn’t do it exactly.. but again.. SpireCMS isn’t WordPress so I’m not really sure why we’re comparing the 2…

My attempt:
http://screenr.com/GY47
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Peter Brant admits above that within WP he could not force the date stamp in the permalink to show a date different from the published date of the document.

When Brant changed the published date the permalink date also changed automatically.

Brant also could not access the permalink date stamp directly to edit it to be anything different than the published date.

Brant then states "but again.. SpireCMS isn’t WordPress so I’m not really sure why we’re comparing the 2…"

Although they act differently both the WP based CMI website and the sCMS ALS website use permalinks for some posts that have embedded date stamps.

In a screen capture from the original video Jeremy presented showing Google Analytics of the ALS site, Jeremy points at the address of the news item we are discussing at 2:11 min into the video. The permalink for the document clearly shows a date stamp, "/2012/12/10/".
Click the image above to view a higher resolution version.

Because of the automated nature of date stamps in permalinks there can only be 2 different dates embedded in such permalinks. WP is set to use the 'published' date in the permalink. In WP if the published date is changed then the permalink date stamp automatically changes to match.

Because of the way WP deals with permalink date stamps it is impossible for viewers to tell what date an article was first created.

In WP an author can set the published date anywhere from Jan 1, 1970 forward without readers knowing what date the article was actually created.

sCMS does not treat permalink date stamps the same as WP as illustrated in the second google cache record.

The only logical alternative date for sCMS to use in the permalink date stamp of news items is the document created date as set by the clock at the San Antonio server hosting the site. Doing so creates a true permalink to the record, not a transitory one as WP does. For sCMS to do anything else would defeat the whole purpose of permalink date stamps.

In sCMS the permalink date stamp is not needed to sort news items into the correct order for display. The 'published' date is adequate for that purpose.



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THIS EXHIBIT IS TO LET US MORE EASILY COMPARE THE IMPORTANT ELEMENTS ON THE TWO GOOGLE CACHE RECORDS

Below I have created images that summarize the important elements on the pages so both pages can easily be see in proximity to each other.

There are also links to the original screen captures of each page so you can easily verify that the important parts of those pages shown here are accurate.






To view the originals of these two documents click the icons below.

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REGARDING JEREMY'S (ALS SITE DEVELOPER) EXPLANATION THAT HIS CODING ERRORS CAUSED THE DOCUMENTS TO DISPLAY WRONG DATES

This exhibit confirms that both the Google Web Archives and the Wayback Machine Archives only found 2 versions of the ALS News announcement about Sandy Hook.

The first shows that is was created on dec 10th and was published on Dec 10th  VIEW HERE 

The second shows that is was created on dec 10th but was published on Dec 13th  VIEW HERE

Jeremy, the ALS website developer stated that the school created the article on Dec 17th, 2012.

If that was the case and the default published date was left alone at "Dec 17, 2012" then there should be a google archive page at http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/17/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk There isn't.

For thoroughness I checked all dates between Dec 10th and Dec 20th. There were no returns.

* Until January 23, 2013 the google cache for dec  10th did have a positive return http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:sFg-ITDrjT0J:www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/10/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk

For some unknown reason Google removed the Dec 10th page from their cache on Jan 23, 2013. 

That Google removed a page out of their archive is highly unusual, possibly even unprecedented.

The WayBack Machine cache still contains a copy of the Dec 10th article but none for any other dates.

Below are links to confirm for yourself what I say above is accurate.




Google Archives Search URL's to see if a document called "talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy" was found on any other dates than Dec 10th.

These searches were conducted on Feb 5, 2013

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/10/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy

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Up until January 23, 2013 the above search returned the page shown below.
Click the image above to view a higher resolution version.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/11/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/12/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/13/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/14/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/15/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/16/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/17/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/18/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/19/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/20/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy

On January 5th, 2013, each return above gave a return page as shown below. The only difference on the page was the date referenced in the search.

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WayBack Machine (WBM) Archives Search URL's to see if a document called "talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy" was found on any other dates than Dec 10th.

Searches below were conducted on February 5, 2013.

http://web.archive.org/web/20130108013319/http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/10/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy

This search returned the page shown below.

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The page shows that the Wayback Machine found the page 7 times.

Clicking on "7 captures" shows when those finds occurred (shown in image below).

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Click the image above to view a higher resolution version.

The blue circles on Jan are the dates the document was found. On the dates with small blue circles, the page was only found once. On dates with large blue circles the document was found twice.

Clicking the blue circles individually for each date 8, 9, 10, 14, and 17 shows what the page looked like on that particular day.

On Jan 8,9,10, and 14 the WBM showed the page below.
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On Jan 17 the WBM instead showed the page below. (a 404 page not found error)

This means that the ALS website admin deleted the page on Jan 15, 16 or 17. The WBM stopped looking for the page after Jan 17, 2013.
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Click the image above to view a higher resolution version.

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/11/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/12/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/13/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/14/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/15/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/16/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/17/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/18/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/19/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/20/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy

For all the searches above except the Dec 10th one the WBM returned a page similar to the one shown below. The only difference was the date being searched for in the search.

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CONCLUSION: Neither the Google or Wayback Machine Archives contain(ed) a record of the news item regarding the CMI pdf on any date other than Dec 10, 2012.

In the exhibit above this one CLICK HERE I demonstrated that there was no need in the Newsfeed section of the ALS website to pre-date a news item to make it appear in the right place.

When a new news item is created by a user the code automatically inserts the 'today' date of the 'computers' clock, on the host server where the website resides, without intervention from the user.

The PERMALINK / URL for a document created on Dec 17, 2012 would shows as http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/17/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy 

The Published date for a document created on Dec 17, 2012 would automatically, without intervention by the user be set to Dec 17th 2012.

If the person entering the news item into the ALS website on December 17, 2012 chose for some reason to change the published date to Dec 10th instead, they could do that. They would however immediately see a Published date of Dec 10, 2012 instead of Dec 17, 2012. They would also realize that any viewer of the News item would also see a Dec 10, 2012 published date.

I will prove the following statements further on in the investigation.

When using the SpireCMS to create a news item on Dec 17, 2012 and then manually changing the published date to Dec 10, 2012, the PERMALINK would still be the same as when the item was created. http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/17/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy

When using SpireCMS only the published date would change to Dec 10, 2012.

Instead using WordPress, and most likely most other CMS software to create the news item, the results would be different. After manually changing the published date The PERMALINK/ URL will change  for the document. It would then contain /2012/12/10/ not /2012/12/17/.

The above can be proven 100% with the evidence we currently have.

The proof will be easier to understand further along in the investigation and will be presented then.



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REGARDING JEREMY'S (ALS SITE DEVELOPER) EXPLANATION THAT HIS CODING ERRORS CAUSED THE DOCUMENTS TO DISPLAY WRONG DATES

This exhibit has 3 parts.

1) A screen capture below taken by myself on January 3, 2013, of the Arlington Local School's Website Home Page.

2) A screen capture of the ALS website indexing layout I created using a site crawler program, demonstrating News and Calendar events are kept separately on the site.

3) An illustration of the contents of the ALS Newsfeed during December 2012.
 




Arlington Local School's Website Home Page
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Click the image above to view a higher resolution version.

 I have done 2 markups on the image above.

The markup in bright green shows 2 current NEWS items on the page.

The markup in bright yellow shows CALENDAR items on the page.



Arlington Local School's Website Index
als site tree
als site tree
Click the image above to view a higher resolution version.



An illustration of the contents of the ALS Newsfeed during December 2012.
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Click the image above to view a higher resolution version.

The illustration above has information in it not yet needing explanation.

The only items of interest here are the 3 news items that were live on the ALS site during December 2012.

1) Please refer to the row that has 107 in it under DATABASE RECORD NUMBER. This record holds a news item published on October 11, 2012 announcing the December Newsletter is now available.

2) Please refer to the row that has 108 in it under DATABASE RECORD NUMBER. This record holds a news item published on December 3, 2012 announcing Winter Break information is now available.

3) Please refer to the row that has 109 in it under DATABASE RECORD NUMBER. This record holds a news item created on December 10, 2012 that would announce the availability of the PDF from CMI regarding, talking to your children about the Sandy Hook Events  was now available, IF it's status was "PUBLIC".

4) Please refer to the row that has 111 in it under DATABASE RECORD NUMBER. This record holds a duplicate of a news item first created on December 10, 2012 that publicly announces the availability of the PDF from CMI regarding, talking to your children about the Sandy Hook Events  was now available.

With the above 3 public items in the newsfeed database, beginning on December 12, 2012, until any of the 3 currently live news items were deleted, the ALS home page would show those items in the news stream section of the page in the order below.

1) At the top of the news stream an excerpt  from the "Talking to your children" news item.

2) Below 1) in the middle of the news stream, an excerpt  from the "Winter Break Announcement" news item.

3) Below 2) at the bottom of the news stream, an excerpt  from the "December Newsletter Available" news item.

The ORDER these 3 items appear in within the news stream is determined by each items unique 'Published Date'

The news items are displayed in descending  'Published Date' order with the Sandy Hook Document at the top.

Anyone with proper authority on the site could re-arrange their order by changing any items 'Published Date'.

Unlike the calendar, where it is critical to link a calendar item to a specific date, a simple descending date sort of the active database records, which does not depend on code Jeremy wrote, rather is an infallible database function call, would place the 3 items automatically in the right order just using the default date established when the items were created.

There is no need to manipulate the dates on NEWSFEED items because the database itself determines the correct order, not code Jeremy wrote.

The calendar item feed is another matter all together. Jeremy either wrote the code that displays the popup calendar allowing authors to point at the published date of an item, rather than typing it in manually, or bought the function from someone else.

Integrating the popup calendar into SpireCMS would depend on code Jeremy wrote. The process of placing selected dates into the right spot on a calendar displayed on screen is quite complex. Jeremy would need to write this code and could easily have made a mistake while doing this.

A mistake in popup calendar integration related code would not impact the sort order of news stream items. The default date automatically added when creating a new item would immediately place the 'TODAY' date correctly into the new record without needing to access the popup calendar.

If the calendar was afterwards used in the NEWS STREAM to change the default published date, it might then enter the wrong published date into the item, but the author would immediately see that wrong date, and keep trying different dates in the popup calendar until the corrct 'published date appeared' on the news item.


There is more to the above which I will explain later at the appropriate time.


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CRISIS MANAGEMENT INC INFORMATION

DEMONSTRATION OF POSTING A NEWS ITEM, WHICH WAS CREATED ON YOUR OWN COMPUTER, AUTOMATICALLY TO A BLOG

This demonstration shows how CMI could automatically, and quickly, post an article to many CMS powered websites, by utilizing only off the shelf free software.

The software demonstrated here is Windows Live Writer (WLW).  There are a large number of editors with similar capabilities, some of which need to be purchased.

WLW gives a non-technical user a document editor on their own computer, where they can create documents meant to be published on blogs in a similar manner to the more normal practice of composing such documents directly on their WordPress, SpireCMS, or other type of blog.

While composing documents in this manner the author is not connected to the blog. The author does not even need to be connected to the internet, unless they want to add material to the document, such as pictures and videos, that are not available on their own computer, and only available somewhere out on the web.

Once the author is happy with the document on their computer, one click will automatically do the following....

Depending on the button they click [Publish] or [Post draft to blog]

a)  submit the document to the selected blog as a draft, for further editing on the site itself, at a later date, before it becomes visible to site visitors. (Only the Author, Editors, and Admins will see there is a draft not yet published)

or

b)   submit the document to the selected blog as a completed published document which immediately becomes visible to all visitors.

c) automatically upload all resources, such as images or pdf files, included in the document, and place them in the correct place on the blog.

d) Make the article visible in the right area of the blog, IE "NEWS" in the case of CMI.

The screen captures below demonstrate how simple to use, but powerful such software is.



Below is what the program looks like on the authors screen.
(The red items are notes I've added to the image)

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The first thing an author that needs to submit articles to many different blogs has to do in WLW, is to give WLW the location of each blog and their login credentials. The screen shown below illustrates what must be done for each CMS site they contribute to.

Once the author gives their credentials for a particular site the program automatically visits the site, logs in as the author and gets all the information available to the author.

The program then knows what the author is allowed to do on that site.

The program, if told to do so, can also download templates of all pages on the site which the author is authorized to access so the templates can be used on his own computer as needed.

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Notice near the top left where the image above show "(W) Doomstead Diner". This means that the current document will be sent to a Wordpress Blog called Doomstead Diner when the [Publish] or [Post draft to blog] button is pressed.

There is a small down arrow after (W) "Doomstead Diner".

Clicking the arrow opens a list of all the blogs the author publishes to.

Selecting a different blog so it shows that name instead of Doomstead means that when either [Publish] or [Post draft to blog] are clicked, the same document will instead be sent to that blog.

By switching the current blog in the list, an author can quickly send the same, or different, documents to many places.

If the Author chooses [Publish] there is nothing further they need to do in order to make the  document available to the public.

With tools such as WLW an author never actually needs to visit the site(s) they publish to when creating a new article. 



The information WLW gathers when an author first tells the program about a blog they publish to, remains available to the program as a profile for all further articles sent to that blog. The blog only needs to be re-profiled if the layout of the blog changes. Re-profiling a blog only takes a couple of clicks.

The profile for a specific blog is detailed to the point of allowing the author to easily do, on their own computer, everything they could do while creating a document on the actual blog. The 2 images below give examples of this.

Set Published Date.
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Set Location on Blog where item is to appear.
In the case of CMI and ALS there would an item [News]. Placing a checkmark next to it would publish the article to thr news stream at ALS
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If CMI only worked with a few hundred schools or less, they could get by just using this free software WLW to keep schools current rather than buying an expensive piece of news broadcasting software.

IF an author was preparing to publish a NEWS item on the ALS using WLW, accidentally pressing [PUBLISH] instead of [Post draft to blog], would immediately result in a RSS notification going out to all subscribers to the site. Google and other search engines would also receive the notification.

In WLW one mistaken click by an author, between two buttons in close proximity to each other, would be responsible for the records found in the Google and Wayback Machine Cache's.


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PICTURE OF ARLINGTON LOCAL SCHOOL FROM THE VILLAGE'S WEBSITE

The image below is a screen capture taken of The Village of Arlington Ohio Website. It shows a picture of the School we are discussing. It is here for interests sake, not because of any particular importance. Notice the caption. It reads, ""KINDERGARTEN THROUGH 12TH GRADE, MODERN FACILITY, LATEST TECHNOLOGY"

The School's website ALS, suggests the last statement, "latest technology", is accurate. The website IS state of the art.




To visit the Village of Arlington Website CLICK HERE

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ARCHIVED COPY OF DOCUMENT 1 FOUND IN THE WAYBACK MACHINE ARCHIVE

The version of this cached page that was in Google's Archive until January 23, 2013 can be viewed CLICK HERE

That Google removed their copy from public view during this Investigation is very suspicious. Google supposedly leaves the last available copy of any web page it archives, in their archive into perpetuity, even if the page is deleted on the site where it came from.

Google only deletes search records, which are different than archive records, once pages are deleted on the originating site.This is done in order to get rid of search returns in the search engine that point to pages that no longer exist.

Even though Google removed this page from their archive for some reason, this find in the WAYback Machine also proves the page once existed and was publicly available.

This is an important find reported by commenter J. D. Weiss | on February 2, 2013 at 12:22 am

The screen capture of the Wayback Machine record below was taken by myself on Feb 2, 2013 proving it was there on that date. It may possibly also disappear. I suggest people save copies in case it does.

To see the comment CLICK HERE   




To got the Wayback Machine and view the page below CLICK HERE

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ARLINGTON LOCAL SCHOOLS WEBSITE INFORMATION
http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com

In order to find out where the computers that hold the Arlington Schools Website are located, I did a whois and checked two different databases. The results are below.


First whois request submitted to: http://www.ip-adress.com/whois/arlingtonlocalschools.com

The results below


This report on Arlingtonlocalschools was ran on January, 01, 2013.
Arlingtonlocalschools.com Server Details
IP address:
184.106.51.33
Server Location:
San Antonio, TX in United States
ISP:
Rackspace Hosting



Second whois request submitted to: http://whois.domaintools.com/arlingtonlocalschool.com

The results below

25 other sites hosted on this server. <---- Remember this it will be important.
IP Address:
184.106.51.33
IP Location:
United States – New York – New York City
Domain Status:
Registered And Active Website



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I have not included all the information available only what is relevant here. You can verfiy what is here is accurate by using the url’s.

I won’t explain what everything here means just tell you what it tells me in plain english. Other techs are welcome to comment if they feel I am wrong.

The School’s Website is not Physically located in Ohio where the School is. Until at least Jan 1, 2013 the website was on a server located in Houston Texas. The site was recently moved (sometime after Jan 1/13) to a server located in New York City.

The above means that when staff at the Arlington Schools Office sit down at a computer to manage the website, they are not working on a Website hosted locally on a computer in their offices. Until Jan 1 13 they were managing their website on a server located in Texas and from that date to the present on a server in New York.


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CRISIS MANAGEMENT INC INFORMATION

This Exhibit has 1 part.

Below is a screen capture of a page on their site that shows some of the other services they provide.

http://www.cmionline.com/online-training/




Click the image below to view a larger version.
feb 1-004.jpg
feb 1-004.jpg

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CRISIS MANAGEMENT INC INFORMATION

This Exhibit has 6 parts.

These are more examples of the kind of material CMI provides to schools. The contents aren't important other than as an example of the type of material CMI provides some of their clients.

The link to access these files is http://www.cmionline.com/in-crisis-now/

Some people might have trouble reading such files so I placed images of the pages in the document here for ease of access.



Click the image below to view a larger version.
Student Announcement Following Tragedy Page 2
Student Announcement Following Tragedy Page 2



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Needs of Students
Needs of Students



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Initial Staff Notification
Initial Staff Notification



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Before School Staff Meeting
Before School Staff Meeting



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A Map of Ordinary Crises
A Map of Ordinary Crises






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CRISIS MANAGEMENT INC INFORMATION

http://www.cmionline.com/

This Exhibit has 2 parts.

The file from Crisis Management Inc that was placed on the Arlington Local Schools Website was an Adobe PDF file. Some people might have trouble reading such files so I placed images of the two pages in the document here for ease of access.

The contents aren't important other than as an example of the type of material CMI provides some of their clients.



Click the image below to view a larger version.
Contents of CMI.pdf Page 1
Contents of CMI.pdf Page 1





Click the image below to view a larger version.
Contents of CMI.pdf Page 2
Contents of CMI.pdf Page 2



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THIS EXHIBIT IS TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THE ARLINGTON SCHOOLS WEBSITE, ALLOWED FOR USERS WITH LIMITED ACCESS, TO USE THE SITE SIMILAR TO ALL OTHER CMS SOFTWARE INCLUDING WORDPRESS.

The exhibit consists of a screen capture of the results of a website crawler program visiting the Arlington Schools Website to see what is there. This process is legal. Many browsers have it built in. It is often called a scrap book. Such utilities allow you to browse a website when you are offline. The program steps through the public links on any site and records what it finds.

Usually you then just read the content off your own computer. The program used here is a little more sophisticated in that it doesn't just start downloading everything needed immediately. It instead first shows this index of what files are available. You can then checkmark only the ones you might be interested in to be downloaded. Once you have selected all the files you can click one button to just download your selected files.

* The blue bar highlights where the pdf provided by Crisis Management Inc is stored on the schools site. To download it would only need to place a checkmark in the box to the left of it.

This image is wider than most screens so when you click on in it to view the larger version,
you will need to click a second time on the icon below
 

 It is near the bottom center of  the enlarged image.

Clicking the icon will give you the full resolution version of the image with a scroll bar to allow you to see the whole image.


jan 31 005
jan 31 005



Explanation of items on the screen capture.

The window on the left shows a tree of different places on the website. It works identically to trees of directories on your own computer.
The little + or - to the left of each tell you if there are levels of the tree below that directory. A + means yes there are. If there is no + or - it means there is nothing below that spot on the tree. A - means that that leg can be hidden for clarity only showing higher level branches.

You'll notice red, green and yellow arrows in this section. I placed them there to show you some important information.

If I clicked the minus next to the line with the red arrow all the lines with green and yellow arrows would disappear.

I point these items out to prove that the Arlington Schools Website allows for access to their website, with different level of authority, not just with administrative level access, which is very dangerous to hand out even to those trusted within your own organization.

These arrows don't show Crisis Management Inc having access but show that five of the teachers at the school were given the same level of limited access to the site, that would make it safe for the school to let Crisis Management Inc onto their site, to do things like post Crisis oriented bulletins and news items as needed, without the intervention of anyone at the school.

The line at the red arrow reads "academics/teacher-websites/   This is where on the website's full tree all teacher resource material is stored.

The five green arrows show that 5 teachers have places there to keep their own material.

mr-clinton-dillion
mrs-kim-cortez
mrs-audrey-vanhoose
mr-nick-inbody
mr-chad-davis

All the teacher lines have + to the left which means there are other branches below each teacher

For clarity I have only opened up mr-clinton-dillion branches to see what is there.

All the other teachers have the same type of structure in their own areas.

I have not shown everything in mr-clinton-dillion area. I can tell from looking at his area he probably teaches computer sciences. Two of the other teachers are math teachers.

The line with the yellow arrow is within mr-clinton-dillion tree.

Each teacher only has access to their own assigned area using their individual author level authorization.  This only allows them to make changes in their own area.

The line reads "www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/member_login_go_php?return"

That line means anyone trying to access that area from the user interface of the site must logon with their credentials before being allowed to add or change anything in that area. The administrator would configure the site so only mr-clinton-dillion, or someone with editor, or administrative authority, could make changes to that area of the site.

Anyone can view the material there without any authority, but.. without authority they cannot change anything. The resources are put there to be used/viewed by the public.

For Crisis Management Inc (CMI) to be given  only enough privileges allowing them to do everything they need to do to add content to the schools site without endangering the whole site, they would only need to be given author authority in two places.

1) The News area so they can introduce news announcements regarding new crisis related information they have made available on the site for the use of teachers, students and parents.

2) The news item we are discussing did not have a direct link to the pdf, it only announced where the pdf could be found.

3) To create a link to the pdf so people could access it (CMI) would need author access to the area /parentsstudents/ to access a file called "forms.html" which has links to information for parents and students. That page is shown below.

* Note the link to the pdf in question at the bottom.

cached005.jpg
cached005.jpg


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This exhibit contains 3 items.



1) A screen capture of part of an email I received on January 23, 2012 from a commenter at FOTM who is helping with technical research on this matter. The email included 2 attachments in the form of pdf files shown on the right in the image of the email below. The email describes how and where the information was received.

jan 31 004
jan 31 004

Click the image above to see a larger version of it.



2) Here is a copy of the cms.pdf attached to the email. You can click on the Icon below and download it to your computer and open it using acrobat reader, or alternatively have it open up in your browser if your browser is configured to do so. For your viewing convenience I show the contents of cms.pdf below in item 3.

CMS.PDF -



3) The image below is the contents of the CMS.PDF file linked to above. It is a screen capture referenced in the email above.


CONTENTS OF CMS.PDF
CONTENTS OF CMS.PDF
Click the image above to see a larger version of it.



THERE IS SOMETHING VERY WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE.

What is wrong with the picture does not directly relate to the Google cache documents we are investigating. It is however suspicious because it is misleading. If nothing important happened on the Arlington Local Schools Website, why is this type of misinformation from people directly involved in what occurred there all over the place in our evidence?

Explanation of the above items.

Please refer to item 1 (email I received) above and look at the contents of the red outline box with the label "1"

It reads, "I decided to email the people who actually administer the site"

'administer' means to operate a website after a developer first created it and then made it available to their client to use. In this case the client is www.arlingtonlocalschools.com and the administrator is the person at the School who manages the site for the school once it is complete.

Jeremy/SpireCMS is not the 'administrator' of the Website, he is the 'developer'. Jeremy has nothing to do with the day to day running of the site. He is only called in when something goes wrong, or the school needs more information about the site.


Please refer to item 1 (email I received) above and look at the contents of the red outline box with the label "2"

It reads, "This is evident in the screenshot that Ann Maxfield sent me".

This statement confirms that it was not sent by Jeremy and tells us that Ann Maxifield is the person at the school who likely 'administers' the Website. The words used in the email are carefully crafted to imply the screen capture inside  cms.pdf  is of the SpireCMS running on the School's Website.

The screen capture clearly shows that it was not taken on the Schools Website. Rather; it was taken from a COPY of the School Website running on Jeremy's Company Website.

Please  refer to the arrows marked 3 and 4 in item 3 above. (The screen capture from the school?)

The image shows with arrows 3 & 4 that this is very likely Anne Maxfield.

Arrow 3 shows an open browser tag labelled "WorldClient - Ann Maxfield (...". This means that in that tab someone named Anne Maxfield is logged into some site on the internet where she has an account.

Arrow 4 shows a login credential for the page shown. It says "You are logged in as maxfielda Logout?

Looking just below the arrowhead of arrow 3 shows us that she is logged onto a spireCMS  powered site. The content below shows what we are told is the the School's interface, which is used to enter the news item in question on their site, assumably by Linda Maxfield. It shows the calendar that supposedly caused the problem of mis-dating the news item.

THIS SCREEN CAPTURE WAS NOT TAKEN ON THE SCHOOL'S WEBSITE.

The image in item 3 was created on Spire's site not on the School's site.

To confirm where the screen shot was taken please see Arrow 1 in item 3 above (the screen capture of the SpireCMS interface.)

That arrow points at the url in the address bar which tells us where the page we are viewing is located. The url says, "http://www.spirecms.com/v2.0.2b/news/add_edit.php?news_id=109".

If the screen capture was taken on the school's site it would instead read, "http://www.arlingtonlocalschools/news/add_edit.php?news_id=109".

What this all means so far is that what we see above is not the real copy of the School Website, it is a copy of the School's Website that exists on Jeremy's Company Website.

Please refer to Arrow 2 in item 3 above. ( The screen capture from the school?)

What the arrow points at in the status bar in Internet Explorer that shows what the page displayed is currently doing. It says, "Downloading picture http://www.spirecms.com/scripts/datepicker_1.5/datepicker_vista/fram.png..."

What the above means is that Linda is currently downloading the image displayed from http://www.spireCMS.com.

If Linda was sending a copy of an image she took at the school's site to Jeremy's Company the url at arrow 1 would instead read "Arlington Schools" not 'Spirecms' and the page status would also show 'uploading' not 'downloading'.

It is legitimate that SpireCMS has a copy of the school website on their site. I do the same all the time with sites I create for others. It is needed for testing purposes.

What is extremely suspicious to me is...

a. that the email carefully infers the screen capture is taken from the actual site. [/b]

b. Why would Linda do a screen capture of a copy of the school's site hosted at spireCms instead of doing one her own site?



The above is not conclusive evidence regarding the Google Cache records we are examining.

It is further evidence that officials involved in the events at the Arlington School are being far from forthright and helpful. There are far too many examples where they try to lead this investigation astray to trust their motivation.

The misdirection they are attempting has however inadvertently given us much useful evidence.
 


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January 31, 2013 2:14 PT by Peter

I interpreted the section of the analysis above slightly wrong. It is very difficult with screen shots to tell what is a live web page and what is just an image of one. The conclusion I reached above remains the same but what we see is slightly different than what I explained. If anything it is more puzzling.

Please refer to Arrow 2 in item 3 above. ( The screen capture from the school?)

What the arrow points at is the status bar in Internet Explorer that shows what the page displayed is currently doing. It says, "Downloading picture http://www.spirecms.com/scripts/datepicker_1.5/datepicker_vista/fram.png..."


WRONG

What the above means is that Linda is currently downloading the image displayed from http://www.spireCMS.com.

If Linda was sending a copy of an image she took at the school's site to Jeremy's Company the url at arrow 1 would instead read "Arlington Schools" not 'Spirecms' and the page status would also show 'uploading' not 'downloading'.


What the status line pointed at by Arrow 2 actually means is that ANN (sorry not Linda as I said above) Maxfield was logged onto SpireCMS' version of the school website not her own. The download statement likely refers to the code that displays the picker calendar on the screen. The page hadn't finished loading yet and was still busy downloading part of the calendar code to her computer.

This is very peculiar for two reasons.....

1) It is now obvious ANN had screen capture software on her own computer, and didn't need help from Jeremy, or to go to Jeremy's Company Site to do the screen capture.

2) ANN had full access to the school's live website. Why would she go to the non-public copy of the website at SpireCMS and do a screen capture of it instead of the REAL live version she had full access to?






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The Kitchen Sink / Re: please check my article on the blog
« on: January 30, 2013, 05:17:58 PM »
Busy day today, both on the web and in Ocean Falls.

Henry Mackow has republished the Tribute on his site. From there it will probably hit The TruthSeeker. It has links to FOTM

The site that made the announcement the  DOD is watching sandy hook bloggers has asked me to review what they are doing.

Word is starting to filter out slowly.

 :emthup:

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This exhibit is the 3rd post Jeremy made in the Technical Thread CLICK HERE and then scroll about 2/3 of the way down the thread until you find comments dated January 24, 2013.

This post introduced us to the video he made presenting some Google Analytics information about the School's Website.

As the url shows the video was placed on the SpireCMS developers website so only someone actually associated with the firm, or authorized by them, could place it there. This fact tells us that Jeremy is very likely who he says he is.




Jeremy | January 24, 2013 at 5:02 pm | Reply   

Peter, et al:

I’ve decided to do much better than answering that intimidating list of questions which prove very little. This evening I created a quick video from a live Google Analytics account showing when the thing was posted. In case you aren’t familiar with Google Analytics, it’s based on a Google tracking code installed in the code of the site, so it removes the guesswork of trying to speculate when it was written based on when Google indexed it… these are the real numbers straight from a reliable Google tracking tool of traffic to this news item.

WATCH THE SHORT VIDEO HERE:
http://www.spiread.com/resources/arlington-questions

I believe this video, coupled with my response yesterday should put most concerns to rest. Thank you.


Below is a screen capture of what is seen when visiting the URL above. The screen capture was created on January 30, 2013.

exhibits jan 30-003
exhibits jan 30-003
click on the image above to see a higher resolution version.

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