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Movie review: Noah
« on: March 30, 2014, 09:30:10 AM »



So…the family headed out to the movies to learn about the great flood this weekend. With Russel Crowe bravely trying to build his stature to that of Charlton Heston in his Biblical adventures, I would have to say he did okay. No tablets or phony fiery bushes but the story held up okay…other than the beaches of Mr Ararat where the final discussions among the family members took place. Really? Beaches? Immediately after the flood? Come on Hollywood.

It creeped out the children a bit, the idea of us all being one big family born from the seeds of inbreeding and incest, and I'm betting the religiously inclined will not like what the God of the Old Testament appeared to require of his/her followers, but when cast in the light of Heavens Gate or Jim Jones, David Koresh, it makes perfect sense.

Not sure that any born again Fundies who see the movie will feel quite the same way, but that won't be a surprise.

The only reason I bring up the movie is because it was quite good in its Doomer theme, resource wars (rocks to start files, mining, the Ark itself), the free will versus told what to do by the voice from the sky, human-haters were the predominate personality type, the big cities and mechanized industrialization versus good old Amish types folks living the pious life, the Amish types winning….itself amusing considering when, some 6000 years later (in Bible time anyway) the same concepts are playing out across the Doomer blogosphere.

It gets a B+ as Doomer porn entertainment.
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Re: Movie review: Noah
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2014, 07:00:04 PM »
It creeped out the children a bit, the idea of us all being one big family born from the seeds of inbreeding and incest, and I'm betting the religiously inclined will not like what the God of the Old Testament appeared to require of his/her followers, but when cast in the light of Heavens Gate or Jim Jones, David Koresh, it makes perfect sense.

Not sure that any born again Fundies who see the movie will feel quite the same way, but that won't be a surprise.
Thanks for the review.... sounds like something I definitely want to catch when it comes out on Netflix.

One thing I'm curious about, did it portray one of Noah's sons as white, one black, and one Asian?  I have actually heard that put forth as a serious theory of the origins of the different races.
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Re: Movie review: Noah
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2014, 07:07:58 PM »


The only reason I bring up the movie is because it was quite good in its Doomer theme, resource wars (rocks to start files, mining, the Ark itself), the free will versus told what to do by the voice from the sky, human-haters were the predominate personality type, the big cities and mechanized industrialization versus good old Amish types folks living the pious life, the Amish types winning….itself amusing considering when, some 6000 years later (in Bible time anyway) the same concepts are playing out across the Doomer blogosphere.
 

Can you elaborate on any of that eg, what do you liken today to a voice from the sky? Im guessing not the MSM BAU bible bigscreen.
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Re: Movie review: Noah
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2014, 08:20:40 PM »
One thing I'm curious about, did it portray one of Noah's sons as white, one black, and one Asian?  I have actually heard that put forth as a serious theory of the origins of the different races.

They all looked like regular ol' white folks to me. White folks everywhere for that matter, even those who were wiped out by the flood.
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Re: Movie review: Noah
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2014, 08:27:34 PM »


The only reason I bring up the movie is because it was quite good in its Doomer theme, resource wars (rocks to start files, mining, the Ark itself), the free will versus told what to do by the voice from the sky, human-haters were the predominate personality type, the big cities and mechanized industrialization versus good old Amish types folks living the pious life, the Amish types winning….itself amusing considering when, some 6000 years later (in Bible time anyway) the same concepts are playing out across the Doomer blogosphere.
 

Can you elaborate on any of that eg, what do you liken today to a voice from the sky? Im guessing not the MSM BAU bible bigscreen.

Noah kept getting "hints" in the form of dreams. And then backup miracles when he was awake to convince him the dreams were real. And there was a persistent theme that God was talking to folks, people kept asking for him to directly, but him being the Old Testament God, he didn't seem inclined to give direct hints. 
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Re: Movie review: Noah
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2014, 08:32:50 PM »
One thing I'm curious about, did it portray one of Noah's sons as white, one black, and one Asian?  I have actually heard that put forth as a serious theory of the origins of the different races.

They all looked like regular ol' white folks to me. White folks everywhere for that matter, even those who were wiped out by the flood.

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Re: Movie review: Noah
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2014, 10:28:27 PM »
One thing I'm curious about, did it portray one of Noah's sons as white, one black, and one Asian?  I have actually heard that put forth as a serious theory of the origins of the different races.

They all looked like regular ol' white folks to me. White folks everywhere for that matter, even those who were wiped out by the flood.

If they proved Jesus was Black, 90% of White Fundies would convert to Islam.

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wasnt he? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79fzeNUqQbQ
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Re: Movie review: Noah
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2014, 05:00:02 AM »
One thing I'm curious about, did it portray one of Noah's sons as white, one black, and one Asian?  I have actually heard that put forth as a serious theory of the origins of the different races.

They all looked like regular ol' white folks to me. White folks everywhere for that matter, even those who were wiped out by the flood.

If they proved Jesus was Black, 90% of White Fundies would convert to Islam.

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Because 90% of white fundies are... racist?

That's weird, because the Gospels placed no importance on the race or physical features of Jesus (or anyone else), and, more importantly, the early Christians were the FIRST to denounce racism in an extremely racist culture.

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Re: Movie review: Noah
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2014, 07:03:04 AM »
One thing I'm curious about, did it portray one of Noah's sons as white, one black, and one Asian?  I have actually heard that put forth as a serious theory of the origins of the different races.

They all looked like regular ol' white folks to me. White folks everywhere for that matter, even those who were wiped out by the flood.

If they proved Jesus was Black, 90% of White Fundies would convert to Islam.

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No they wouldn't. They would call whoever proved it a liar, and keep believing just as they did before. Preconceived notions are powerful things, not to be dismissed. Folks want to believe their prophets/leaders/friends/neighbors are really just like them....whatever that might be.

If the Second Coming happened tomorrow, and it turned out to be a poor black child in sub-Saharan Africa, I'll give better than even odds that Billy Graham and Co. would find a way to discredit the claim.
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Re: Movie review: Noah
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2014, 10:48:34 AM »
One thing I'm curious about, did it portray one of Noah's sons as white, one black, and one Asian?  I have actually heard that put forth as a serious theory of the origins of the different races.

They all looked like regular ol' white folks to me. White folks everywhere for that matter, even those who were wiped out by the flood.

If they proved Jesus was Black, 90% of White Fundies would convert to Islam.

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No they wouldn't. They would call whoever proved it a liar, and keep believing just as they did before. Preconceived notions are powerful things, not to be dismissed. Folks want to believe their prophets/leaders/friends/neighbors are really just like them....whatever that might be.

If the Second Coming happened tomorrow, and it turned out to be a poor black child in sub-Saharan Africa, I'll give better than even odds that Billy Graham and Co. would find a way to discredit the claim.

Comes the apocalypse-- another time I agree with Mking.

To his point-- look what happens to whistleblowers, in terms of being discredited/destroyed.

Jesus probably looked very much like a present day Palestinian. And if he to be reborn today, he would well be born in A Gazan refugee camp.
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Re: Movie review: Noah
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2014, 11:07:38 AM »
One thing I'm curious about, did it portray one of Noah's sons as white, one black, and one Asian?  I have actually heard that put forth as a serious theory of the origins of the different races.

They all looked like regular ol' white folks to me. White folks everywhere for that matter, even those who were wiped out by the flood.

If they proved Jesus was Black, 90% of White Fundies would convert to Islam.

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Because 90% of white fundies are... racist?

That's weird, because the Gospels placed no importance on the race or physical features of Jesus (or anyone else), and, more importantly, the early Christians were the FIRST to denounce racism in an extremely racist culture.

As you know well, the practices of the early Church bear NO resemblance to the practices of the current crop of white fundamentalist Christian Americans. Many such churches become defenders of orthodoxy and form that resembles nothing so much as the Pharisees of Jesus' time.
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Re: Movie review: Noah
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2014, 12:13:02 PM »
I have to wonder if the Sumerians and Babylonians also got their noses out of joint and complained about the upstart Hebrews culturally misappropriating their story? 

http://www.ancient.eu.com/article/227/


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Re: Movie review: Noah
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2014, 04:54:43 PM »
I have to wonder if the Sumerians and Babylonians also got their noses out of joint and complained about the upstart Hebrews culturally misappropriating their story? 
Um, it's not like the Sumerians had a monopoly:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html

I decided not to quote all 97 pages....

I wonder how much of it is based on the worldwide rise in sea level corresponding to the melting of the glaciers 12,000 years ago....
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Re: Movie review: Noah
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2014, 05:11:15 PM »
I have to wonder if the Sumerians and Babylonians also got their noses out of joint and complained about the upstart Hebrews culturally misappropriating their story? 
Um, it's not like the Sumerians had a monopoly:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html

I decided not to quote all 97 pages....

I wonder how much of it is based on the worldwide rise in sea level corresponding to the melting of the glaciers 12,000 years ago....

I think that happened too slowly for people to see it as a flood.
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Re: Movie review: Noah
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2014, 05:36:39 PM »
I have to wonder if the Sumerians and Babylonians also got their noses out of joint and complained about the upstart Hebrews culturally misappropriating their story? 
Um, it's not like the Sumerians had a monopoly:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html

I decided not to quote all 97 pages....

I wonder how much of it is based on the worldwide rise in sea level corresponding to the melting of the glaciers 12,000 years ago....

I think that happened too slowly for people to see it as a flood.

and certainly wasn't enough to put the Ark on Mt Ararat.
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