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Fake Newz
« on: November 28, 2016, 02:39:05 PM »
"Fake Newz"

Fake News is news that has been made up and is completely untrue.  It is a waste of everybody's time, made worse by the mindless idiots on Facebook and Twitter, who spread it without thinking.

So some professor from a US university posted a list of "Fake News" websites on Facebook, but those on the list were mostly just anti-establishment websites, giving alternative viewpoints, not fake news. Prominent among the mistakes was RT , (formerly Russia Today), which is financed by the Russian State, and a genuine news site.  RT is comparable to the British BBC and Australian ABC news outlets, except that the latter wouldn't say "Boo" to their Prime Ministers, let alone the US President or Rupert Murdoch. 


It has to be admitted that RT likes to publish all the things that the US Government would be embarrassed about, but that is what the US media ought to be doing as part of their job too, but don't.  RT also publishes what President Putin and Foreign Minister Lavrov are saying about world affairs, including the context and background of their statements, which is important to know if you want to express an informed opinion on world affairs.

Thus if you want to get a balanced outlook on current events, and only have time for 2 sites, then CNN and RT should be your first two choices.  They won't be the same, obviously, because they represent the two sides of the argument.

So naturally some of the genuine, but anti-establishment news sites also the on the list, objected.  The financial news site ZeroHedge was one of them.  They follow the Austrian School viewpoint on finance, as opposed to the Keynesian viewpoint, and are hence always anti-Federal Reserve, and pro-"a huge economic collapse is coming"and pro-Gold Standard. You don't have to be an Austrian economist to read ZeroHedge (I'm not one) because they do manage to dig up amazing facts and charts from official sources.  ZH heaped scorn and derision on the list, which presumably caused a twitter-storm amongst the shouting classes.

And thus a new meme was born - "Fake News" is no longer fake news, but anything that doesn't follow the US establishment line.

The list was quickly taken up by the Washington Post, that cheer-leader for the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria.  Remember the WMDs in Iraq, which were ever found ?  Who grilled Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Powell over that big lie, either before or after the invasion? - not WaPo, that's for sure.


WaPo cites the origin of the list as the website called propornot.com, which has been hosted by GoDaddy since 21 August, and uses free BlogSpot blogging software, and doesn't give the names of any of the people involved.  You will find this on their Home Page:

We call on Congressional leadership, and the Obama administration, to:

    Immediately begin investigations to determine whether any U.S. government action or inaction has allowed Russia to manipulate the US domestic political process, and interfere in the 2016 election, through online propaganda.

    Immediately begin investigations to determine whether, by action or inaction, the American public has been deprived of related information that they need to vote in an informed manner.

    Work with our European allies to disconnect Russia from the SWIFT financial transaction system, effective immediately and lasting for at least one year, as an appropriate response to Russian manipulation of the election.

The first two points are silly, but understandable - "begin investigations" into blah blah blah, OK.  But the third is an immediate punishment for a guilty Russia.  Huh?  Aren't we going to await the outcome of the investigation before proceeding to punishment?  You know, "Innocent until proven guilty" and all that?  That's a bit like President Obama saying Osama bin Laden got "justice", when in fact he was simply assassinated and his body disappeared, which WaPO reported on but didn't question.


If you haven't heard of it before, SWIFT is an internet system which allows banks in different countries to exchange the necessary paperwork before and after the actual transfer of big sums of money, over secure channels.  The threat of being excluded from SWIFT, and hence being internationally isolated, is a very big stick indeed, and would likely lead to the instant start of WW3. 

At least, it would have if the Russians hadn't already written and implemented their own version of SWIFT, known as RosSwift.  It has been up and running for over a year, catering for Russian-to-Russian bank transactions, hence relieving Russia from having to worry about having their national inter-bank transactions being monitored by the US.  All it would take for it to become internationally operational would be the issuing of log-in credentials for RosSwift to foreign banks.  Presumably the Russians have decided, for now, not to split the world into 2 competing financial blocs, but they ready for it.

A moment's consideration should be enough for you to realise that the rest of the BRICS group, China, India, Brazil and South Africa would immediately join RosSwift, as would the CSO countries, Belarus, Armenia, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, and Kyrgyzstan, and other assorted hangers on like Syria, Iran, Philippines, Cuba, Venezuela - well over half the world's population.  The US couldn't sanction them all, so it would have to live with it.

Then you've got the problem of how the EU countries and Turkey are going to pay for their Russian oil and gas imports, unless they join RosSwift too.  And very soon you will see that cutting Russia off from SWIFT would be a HUGE mistake with endless blowback for the US, and that PropOrNot must be a complete bunch of idiots.

How do PropOrNot identify "Russian propaganda"?

There is a long list of ways that PropOrNot says it can tell if a website is a Russian propaganda site.  This one is quite instructive:


16. Appear to be effectively influencing public opinion in significant and very problematic ways, by promoting:
    Conspiracy theories about and protests against US military exercises,
    Isolationism/anti-interventionism generally,
    Support for policies like Brexit, and the breakup of the EU and Eurozone,
    Opposition to Ukrainian resistance to Russia and Syrian resistance to Assad,
    Support for the anti-vax, anti-Zika spraying, anti-GMO, 9/11-”truther”, gold-standard, and other related movements
Yes, if you believe in a peaceful non-interventionist US foreign policy, or supported Brexit like a majority of British voters did, or support a return to the gold standard, or are against Genetically Modified Organisms, you are a Russian propagandist !

The question is ...

Getting back to WaPo, why would a news organisation with such an impeccable reputation for good journalism, choose to pick up this story from an anonymous bunch of idiots with a $10 web-site?  Perhaps because they are not a bunch of idiots at all, but a secretive cabal of war-crazed neo-cons, and WaPo have been given the establishment nod of approval to promote them. 

The implications of all this is that if a site regularly publishes articles which question US policy on its interventionist stance towards countries it doesn't like, or on going back to the gold standard, or on Brexit and the break-up of the EU, (all of which are common themes here on Doomstead Diner), then it could be branded a Russian propaganda outlet and some kind of sanctions applied against it.  This could involve lowering its ranking or removing it altogether from Google search results, and Facebook/Twitter news feed rankings, to outright closure.  Facebook has already announced that it is looking at modifying its news filters to try harder to eliminate fake news.

This is a very serious development for all people with alternative views to the US establishment.

The List

And finally, here is the list.  How many of these sites do you want to hear from as part of your political discussion?

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Re: Fake Newz
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2016, 12:03:41 AM »
Here is a good example of RT reporting, basically an interview with a UK Tory MP with a Polish background, who disagrees with the antagonistic approach being taken by Hilary Clinton and the UK Defence Minister Michael Fallon, versus Donald Trump and current French presidential front-runner Francois Fillon.   If it is self-serving of Russia for RT to publish this (and it obviously is), then it follows that Russia wants to lower tensions, while the US and UK want to raise them.  Littered with links to further reading.

NATO should be acting as a bridge between Baltics & Russia, defuse tension – UK Tory MP
29 Nov, 2016

The West should treat Russia as an equal partner and do more to alleviate tensions between Moscow and some NATO members, in particular Poland and the Baltics, by dispelling fears about Russia’s alleged intentions, Tory MP Daniel Kawczynski, told RT.

READ MORE: Trump must stand up to Russia, not treat it as equal – UK defense secretary

“It suits neither us, nor the Russians to have this level of tension,” Kawczynski told RT. “Of course, it [Russia] is an equal partner, it is an equal partner within the UN Security Council, we must treat them as an equal partner.”

Read more - 11 NATO states take part in massive ‘Iron Sword’ drills in Lithuania

One of the major ways in which NATO countries can contribute to reducing tensions on the European continent, is to help dispel concerns of former Warsaw pact countries about Moscow’s intentions.   

“We should acknowledge and understand and respect that there’s tension in the Baltic States and in Poland, they are small countries, they neighbor Russia, they are to a certain degree fearful of Russia and fearful of Russian motives,” Kawczynski, who is himself of Polish origin, said.

While Kawczynski says these concerns should not be “brushed under the carpet” and must be dealt with, he believes the West should take on the role of mediator.

READ MORE: NATO builds up offensive capability on borders of Russia & Belarus, Moscow to respond – MoD

“We want to be acting as a bridge between those countries and Russia to try to diffuse some of these concerns,” the MP said, adding that, “historically,” the West has done little to “make them feel less concerned about Russian motives.”

Kawczynski argued that one of the reasons US President-elect Donald Trump attracted both Republican and Democrat voters was his readiness to “go an extra mile to negotiate with Russia and to try to lower the extraordinary levels of tension that has been building up between Russian and NATO.” At the same time, Clinton’s “highly antagonistic approach” towards Moscow during the campaign might have spooked voters, he said.

READ MORE: NATO chief urges EU to increase military budgets to maintain bond with US under Trump

The MP pointed out that the West’s attitude towards Russia could shift dramatically in the near future, as not only is US foreign policy under Trump expected to exhibit a more constructive approach, but France could soon follow suit. The current presidential front-runner Francois Fillon, who won conservative primaries this week, is keen on restoring ties with Russia if elected.

The UK, as well as NATO as a whole, should join efforts to “go an extra mile, to try to engage with Russia,” Kawczynski said.
‘London struggles to adjust to new reality’

Jerald Horne, author and historian, told RT that UK Defence Secretary Michael Fallon’s advice to Trump, urging him to stand up to Russia and not regard Moscow as an equal partner, will likely fall on deaf ears, as the once-celebrated “special relationship” between the two countries has been suffering because of London’s increasing self-isolation.

Read more - British Defence Secretary Michael Fallon.  NATO war with Russia ‘not likely’ in 2017, UK Defence Secretary says

“It would be very difficult to listen to Fallon’s advice for American administration,” Horne said, adding that, after opting to leave the EU, Britain “is increasingly feeling isolated and the pressure might be getting to the officials,” such as Fallon.

On the other hand, the American people may have chosen Trump as President as a consequence of their weariness with the “military misadventures” of the US and UK in Iraq and Afghanistan, with the latter “unfolding disastrously” at the moment, he said.

Horne argues that the US election result is “reflection of revulsion of American people at these military catastrophes,” while noting that the UK's government does not seem ready to review its foreign policy in the post-Brexit world, still counting on the fading “special relations” between Washington and London that are currently “under strain.”

READ MORE: French people sacrifice their own interests to help Putin win the world? (OP-ED)

“He [Fallon] is still living in the past, he is living in the realm, where there were so-called special relationships between London and Washington but that realm is dissolving as we speak and London needs to adjust accordingly,” Horne said, predicting an “agonizing reappraisal” in foreign policies.
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Re: Fake Newz
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2016, 12:16:09 AM »
"Fake Newz"

The Diner didn't make the list!  :(

Did you write this article?  If so, it goes up on the blog.

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Re: Fake Newz
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2016, 12:31:31 AM »
Did you write this article?

Yes.   :hello:

Can't resist another RT example as it highlights that even an undeveloped country, under sanction for 50 years, can have free education and health service.

No amigos? Theresa May snubs Castro funeral, but Corbyn's going
28 Nov, 2016

Senior members of the British government will apparently snub the funeral of Cuban revolutionary leader Fidel Castro. Prime Minister Theresa May failed even to issue a statement on Castro’s death over the weekend.

Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn meanwhile confirmed he will be attending the funeral, which will take place on December 4.

Senior figures in most Western governments are not expected to travel to Havana, including British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson, who will send Foreign Office minister Alan Duncan instead. PM May is yet to comment on Castro’s death.

Corbyn’s recognition of the former Cuban president follows Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams’ own intent to fly over for the funeral. Adams tweeted on Monday he is “heading [for] Havana.”

Corbyn described Castro as a “huge figure of modern history, national independence and 20th Century socialism.”

“From building a world-class health and education system, to Cuba’s record of international solidarity abroad, Castro’s achievements were many,” he added.

“For all his flaws, Castro’s support for Angola played a crucial role in bringing an end to apartheid in South Africa and he will be remembered both as an internationalist and a champion of social justice.”

    Heading 4 Havana. pic.twitter.com/FdBw71TyZ2
    — Gerry Adams (@GerryAdamsSF) November 28, 2016

His words were scoffed at by the national press, which called Corbyn an “ultra left-winger” and predicted his approval ratings would go “down yet another notch” if he attends the funeral.

Labour Shadow Foreign Secretary Emily Thornberry came to Corbyn’s defense, suggesting that although Castro was a “hugely divisive figure,” Cuba sets an example for health services worldwide.

“I went to Cuba in the early 1990s when there was great economic difficulties in that country,” Thornberry said on the BBC Andrew Marr Show on Sunday.

“I found a country that was egalitarian with a fantastic health service, I had my baby with me, we had to go off and see the doctor and we were really struck by it.”

She insisted that Corbyn had “tried to put forward both sides.” Cuba, she said, is “a brave island that stood against a regime that for 50 years would not trade with it and would not let other countries trade with it too.

“Not only did they stand firm and strong they also exported their values across South America and into Africa, producing doctors and nurses and teachers.”

    Labour insist no decision taken yet on whether Jeremy Corbyn will attend Castro's funeral. "No invitation has even been received yet".
    — Kevin Schofield (@PolhomeEditor) November 28, 2016

In the US, President Barack Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry have been told not to visit Cuba for the occasion. Former House of Representatives Speaker Newt Gingrich said “under no circumstance” should they go to Havana.

Senator and former presidential hopeful Marco Rubio echoed the sentiment, saying: “I would hope that [the Obama administration] would send no one to the funeral.”

Castro, who died in the early hours of Saturday November 26, was cremated the following day. His remains will lie in state on Monday and Tuesday before they are taken along the 900km route to Santiago de Cuba – the reverse journey of that once made by the ‘Caravan of Freedom’ Castro led in 1959 during the Cuban Revolution.

His ashes will be placed in a cemetery in Santiago de Cuba on December 4.
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Re: Fake Newz
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2016, 12:59:23 AM »
Did you write this article?

Yes.   :hello:

I shall do a blog transfer.  :icon_sunny:

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« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2016, 07:44:26 PM »
"Legacy Media" - I like that.

The 'Washington Post' 'Blacklist' Story Is Shameful and Disgusting
By Matt Taibbi
28 Nov 2016

The capital's paper of record crashes legacy media on an iceberg

Last week, a technology reporter for the Washington Post named Craig Timberg ran an incredible story. It has no analog that I can think of in modern times. Headlined "Russian propaganda effort helped spread 'fake news' during election, experts say," the piece promotes the work of a shadowy group that smears some 200 alternative news outlets as either knowing or unwitting agents of a foreign power, including popular sites like Truthdig and Naked Capitalism.

The thrust of Timberg's astonishingly lazy report is that a Russian intelligence operation of some kind was behind the publication of a "hurricane" of false news reports during the election season, in particular stories harmful to Hillary Clinton. The piece referenced those 200 websites as "routine peddlers of Russian propaganda."

The piece relied on what it claimed were "two teams of independent researchers," but the citing of a report by the longtime anticommunist Foreign Policy Research Institute was really window dressing.

The meat of the story relied on a report by unnamed analysts from a single mysterious "organization" called PropOrNot – we don't know if it's one person or, as it claims, over 30 – a "group" that seems to have been in existence for just a few months.

It was PropOrNot's report that identified what it calls "the list" of 200 offending sites. Outlets as diverse as AntiWar.com, LewRockwell.com and the Ron Paul Institute were described as either knowingly directed by Russian intelligence, or "useful idiots" who unwittingly did the bidding of foreign masters.

Forget that the Post offered no information about the "PropOrNot" group beyond that they were "a collection of researchers with foreign policy, military and technology backgrounds."

Forget also that the group offered zero concrete evidence of coordination with Russian intelligence agencies, even offering this remarkable disclaimer about its analytic methods:

"Please note that our criteria are behavioral. ... For purposes of this definition it does not matter ... whether they even knew they were echoing Russian propaganda at any particular point: If they meet these criteria, they are at the very least acting as bona-fide 'useful idiots' of the Russian intelligence services, and are worthy of further scrutiny."

What this apparently means is that if you published material that meets their definition of being "useful" to the Russian state, you could be put on the "list," and "warrant further scrutiny."

Forget even that in its Twitter responses to criticism of its report, PropOrNot sounded not like a group of sophisticated military analysts, but like one teenager:

"Awww, wook at all the angwy Putinists, trying to change the subject - they're so vewwy angwy!!" it wrote on Saturday.

"Fascists. Straight up muthafuckin' fascists. That's what we're up against," it wrote last Tuesday, two days before Timberg's report.

Any halfway decent editor would have been scared to death by any of these factors. Moreover the vast majority of reporters would have needed to see something a lot more concrete than a half-assed theoretical paper from such a dicey source before denouncing 200 news organizations as traitors.

But if that same source also demanded anonymity on the preposterous grounds that it feared being "targeted by Russia's legions of skilled hackers"? Any sane reporter would have booted them out the door. You want to blacklist hundreds of people, but you won't put your name to your claims? Take a hike.

Yet the Post thought otherwise, and its report was uncritically picked up by other outlets like USA Today and the Daily Beast. The "Russians did it" story was greedily devoured by a growing segment of blue-state America that is beginning to fall victim to the same conspiracist tendencies that became epidemic on the political right in the last few years.

The right-wing fascination with conspiracy has culminated in a situation where someone like Alex Jones of Infowars (who believes juice boxes make frogs gay) is considered a news source. Jones is believed even by our new president-elect, who just repeated one of his outrageous reports, to the effect that three million undocumented immigrants voted in the November 8th election.

That Jones report was based on a tweet by someone named Greg Phillips of an organization called VoteStand.

When asked to comment on his methodology, Phillips replied in the first person plural, sounding like a lone spree killer claiming to be a national terror network. "No. We will release it in open form to the American people," he said. "We won't allow the media to spin this first. Sorry."

This was remarkably similar to the response of PropOrNot when asked by The Intercept to comment about its "list" report. The only difference was, Phillips didn't use emoticons:

"We're getting a lot of requests for comment and can get back to you today =)" PropOrNot told The Intercept. "We're over 30 people, organized into teams, and we cannot confirm or deny anyone's involvement."

"They" never called The Intercept back.

Most high school papers wouldn't touch sources like these. But in November 2016, both the president-elect of the United States and the Washington Post are equally at ease with this sort of sourcing.

Even worse, the Post apparently never contacted any of the outlets on the "list" before they ran their story. Yves Smith at Naked Capitalism says she was never contacted. Chris Hedges of Truthdig, who was part of a group that won the Pulitzer Prize for The New York Times once upon a time, said the same. "We were named," he tells me. "I was not contacted."

Hedges says the Post piece was an "updated form of Red-Baiting."

"This attack signals an open war on the independent press," he says. "Those who do not spew the official line will be increasingly demonized in corporate echo chambers such as the Post or CNN as useful idiots or fifth columnists."

All of this is an outgrowth of this horrible election season we just lived through.

A lot of reporters over the summer were so scared by the prospect of a Trump presidency that they talked – in some cases publicly – about abandoning traditional ideas about journalistic "distance" from politicians, in favor of open advocacy for the Clinton campaign. "Trump is testing the norms of objectivity in journalism," is how The Times put it.

These journalists seemed totally indifferent to the Pandora's box they were opening. They didn't understand that most politicians have no use for critical media. Many of them don't see alternative points of view as healthy or even legitimate. If you polled a hundred politicians about the profession, 99 would say that all reporters are obstructionist scum whose removal from the planet would be a boon to society.

The only time politicians like the media is when we're helping them get elected or push through certain policies, like for instance helping spread dubious stories about Iraq's WMD capability. Otherwise, they despise us. So news outlets that get into bed with politicians are usually making a devil's bargain they don't fully understand.

They may think they're being patriotic (as many did during the Iraq/WMD episode), but in the end what will happen is that they will adopt the point of view of their political sponsors. They will soon enough denounce other reporters and begin to see themselves as part of the power structure, as opposed to a check on it.

This is the ultimate in stupidity and self-annihilating behavior. The power of the press comes from its independence from politicians. Jump into bed with them and you not only won't ever be able to get out, but you'll win nothing but a loss of real influence and the undying loathing of audiences.

Helping Beltway politicos mass-label a huge portion of dissenting media as "useful idiots" for foreign enemies in this sense is an extraordinarily self-destructive act. Maybe the Post doesn't care and thinks it's doing the right thing. In that case, at least do the damn work.

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Re: Fake Newz
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2016, 08:05:53 PM »
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Re: Fake Newz
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2016, 09:15:23 PM »
Matt Taibbi's blog site seems to be http://smirkingchimp.com , although it hosts many other blogs as well.  All of them are up in arms against WaPo for its blacklist.

Springer Link criticized South Front for not publishing content critical of the Russian government.[15] They even stated that "[it] portrays itself as being a crowdsourced project, but it looks more like a professional info-war project run or backed by the Russian military."[16] South Front also published conspiracy theories without vetting, such as when they publish Alex Jones articles on Hillary Clinton.[17].

Springer Link is part of the Springer publishing group, which publishes a lot of scientific journals and holds copyright to many of the papers.  This makes it one of the "big data" crowd and the opposite of Open Source.  Springer Link has software for paying clients to scan this database and spot trends within it and other associations.

It sounds like the sort of technology that has been used by PropOrNot to produce The List.

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Fake News? 

Hello everyone,

I rarely send out emails on topical issues but decided to make an exception in this case. 

There is a bizarre Orwellian effort underway by old media outlets like The Washington Post -- organizations that have consistently promoted disinformation and propaganda virtually from the time of their founding -- to label independent alternative media "fake news."   They are working in concert with tech giants and social media outlets like Google, Facebook and Twitter.    Frankly it all seems rather desperate.   
There is even a strange and plainly ridiculous neo-McCarthyite co-strategy involved.   Evidently it is designed to tie dissidents in the United States to Russia and Vladimir Putin.   This is strongly reminiscent of previous efforts to portray leftists in eg Guatemala or Nicaragua of being Soviet spies, or indeed MLK and the "New Left" of being stooges for the Soviet Union.  Adding to the surreality of the whole affair, these accusations are being leveled at the far right as well as the left and independent researchers.   

Anyone who has followed these issues closely already knows that these media corporations, owned by a handful of billionaires and closely linked to the "intelligence community," have censored content from their users.   It appears that this pattern of deception is about to get much, much worse.   

If anyone has any doubt about the propagandistic nature of corporate media they may wish to view my films Psywar and The Power Principle II: Propaganda.    The sub-header to Psywar is "The real battlefield is the mind."   I meant that quite literally.    This shouldn't even be controversial outside of grade school.   Whether it was "Remember the Main!", Gulf of Tonkin, WMD's or "Israel did nothing wrong!", the corporate media consists mostly of whimpering sycophants who serve power, not truth.   

Here: Bloomberg news, owned by NY billionaire Michael Bloomberg, crusher of Occupy Wall Street, claims that Mark Zuckerberg's new "truth police" will determine what is suitable "news" for the American people.   Say what? 

A "blacklist" has been created of "fake news" websites.  The list includes dubious click-bait websites and promoters of disinformation, bigotry and general quackery.   However it also includes media orgs of an anarchist bent; "deep politics" websites; and leftist websites that remain independent of the Democratic Party establishment.   

Some of the blacklisted sites have promoted my own work, including Films For Action, Counterpunch, Information Clearing House, Global Research, Black Agenda Report, Paul Craig Roberts and the Corbett Report. 

It is my hope that this rather lame attempt at Orwellian mind control backfires a la "The Streisand Effect," described as a "phenomenon whereby an attempt to hide, remove, or censor a piece of information has the unintended consequence of publicizing the information more widely, usually facilitated by the Internet."

Many of the blacklisted websites are indeed garbage.   But many are jewels in the rough and frankly superior to much of what passes for "journalism" in the 21st century.     

According to a Gallup poll conducted in September, Americans' trust in corporate media is at an all time low.   Perhaps this is an opportunity to turn the tables.   I signed up for Twitter last year but have since abandoned the platform.   Unless you're very pithy indeed, Twitter is mostly trash.  Alternatives to Google are available.   Facebook is useless and potentially very harmful.   If you want your friends to know what music and movies you like just tell them.   

The UK government has announced that it will make people's entire Internet history available to police and other authorities -- minus politicians, of course.   This is horrifying.   Along with the obvious chilling effect for free speech, and the ability to compile "lists" of a much more sinister nature than alleged "fake news" websites, the possibilities for blackmail are endless.   What is to stop them from actually faking a person's internet history? 

Ordinarily I would suggest using TOR or a VPN, but I'm not convinced that there aren't honeypots in some anonymizing services as well; I mean, it would make sense.   I would at least hope that people recognize the danger of self-censorship when it comes to political affairs.   I explored this topic when I covered the NSA in part I of "Counter-Intelligence" and compared mass surveillance to the Panopticon prison model developed by Jeremy Bentham in the 18th century.  The ideal slave is someone who polices themselves and does not require coercion by authorities. 

Ideally, someone will leak the Internet history of every British politician who authorized this travesty.    Other, even more creative counter-intelligence strategies should and presumably will be developed by freedom loving hackers.   

Some of you have emailed me asking what I think of the American Presidential election.   I have been reminded of Frank Zappa's quote that "Government is the entertainment division of the military industrial complex."     If the degenerates Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are the best the ruling class can offer, then it's clearly time for restart aka a revolution.       

Speaking of independent news sites, Socialist Worker has reviewed Part II of my "Plutocracy" series.    It is mostly positive and a pretty good recounting of the film's contents.   There is some criticism toward the end that the film is less cohesive than part I, which I suppose is fair.   As the reviewer herself acknowledges, the "progressive era" was one of the most complicated affairs in American history.   Although a strictly linear approach may have been more superficially "cohesive" it would have been less enlightening, since the seminal events in American history relating to mechanization and de-skilling; sexual, ethnic and racial conflict; voting rights; labor unions etc. were not strictly chronological. 

Ultimately I would like to go all the way up to the present day.   Since I have no funders except my supporters I have no need to pull any punches on any particular issue, no matter how controversial.   Just the facts ma'am. 

Thank you to everyone who donated to the fundraiser and thank you to everyone supporting me via Patreon.   I hope to have the next installment online in about four months.  It will cover roughly 1912 to Back Tuesday and will be titled Plutocracy III: Class War. 

Scott Noble

Patreon  Hmmmmmmmmmmm; perhaps money is laundered?  I'm a fan of Scott.  My question was prompted because I was thinking of someone else who gets a Patreon check.  Someone who I actually suspect has a homeland security Patreon donor.  Certainly not Scott.  Scott sees the current incantation of American government as fascist.  Scott gets no check.  Scott gets watched.

Without further delay:

The List!



You really don't want to see the whole thing and Palloy has it above.  There is some very good stuff in this list besides what we already know very well.  I scanned some good prepper articles a few days ago from it.  I'm going to put this list up as linkable menu tabs on http://chasingthesquirrel.com
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Re: Fake Newz
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2016, 10:10:21 PM »

There is some very good stuff in this list besides what we already know very well.  I scanned some good prepper articles.  I'm going to put this list up as linkable menu tabs on http://chasingthesquirrel.com.

Let me know when you have all the Links connected.  I'll put it up as a Page on the Diner, and also on the collapse.global Portal.

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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2016, 11:24:53 PM »

There is some very good stuff in this list besides what we already know very well.  I scanned some good prepper articles.  I'm going to put this list up as linkable menu tabs on http://chasingthesquirrel.com.

Let me know when you have all the Links connected.  I'll put it up as a Page on the Diner, and also on the collapse.global Portal.


Will Do  !

Progress report:

It is a big list and it is going to take a while.  The first hundred links are up.
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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2016, 12:00:53 AM »
Have done:
attached is a .htm file which you can drop directly into a webpage,
and this is the bbcode version:

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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2016, 12:06:27 AM »
Have done:
attached is a .htm file which you can drop directly into a webpage,
and this is the bbcode version:

DoomsteadDiner.net is not in the list!  :(

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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2016, 12:13:46 AM »
Oops. That .htm was wrong.
New one attached.
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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2016, 01:13:08 AM »
Have done:
attached is a .htm file which you can drop directly into a webpage,
and this is the bbcode version:

DoomsteadDiner.net is not in the list!  :(


It will be, along with others the list missed.  In time I will also eliminate those I don't care for.  Color will also return, but I'm just trying to get it all up first.


Palloy, thanks that will help.

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