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« Reply #375 on: March 07, 2018, 05:57:13 AM »

Judge declares Seattle man's truck 'his home'

By: Deborah Horne
Updated: Mar 5, 2018 - 7:52 PM

A Seattle man is celebrating tonight after a judge ruled that the truck he has been living in is his home and the city can't sell it to pay for a hefty parking ticket and fines. The ruling could affect hundreds of homeless people living all over the city in their vehicles.

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The judge's ruling is based on the 123-year old Homestead Act that says the government can't force anyone to sell their home to satisfy debts. This is apparently the first time anyone has successfully argued that a vehicle can be a home.

Steven Long has lived in a truck on the streets of Seattle since 2014.  But last year, when his truck was parked on Poplar Street South for five months, the city impounded it. He said living outside took a toll.

"I had eight colds that year and pneumonia, to boot," he said. "And I normally have only one or two colds a year."

Long is not alone. A 2017 survey by the nonprofit All Home counted more than 5,400 people living on Seattle's streets. Nearly half of them were living in their vehicles.

"It's one of the first big victories in the area of vehicle residency in particular," says Columbia Legal Services lawyer Ann LoGerfo.

LoGerfo and Long's legal team argued that state law says a home cannot be sold to pay one's debts. Long's truck, the judge determined, is indeed his home, and couldn't be held for the $900 impound feeds he owes.

"So the impound system where there's an impound and you can't get your vehicle - and here a house - out until you pay pretty hefty fines violates the homestead act," LoGerfo said.
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LoGerfo said that this ruling means a vehicle is to be treated like a home.

The city of Seattle argued that impounding Long's vehicle did not constitute a "forced sale." 

Moreover, the courts "have consistently held that there is no constitutional right to housing."

The city attorney would not talk on camera but issued a statement: "The City disagrees with the trial court's ruling and is evaluating its options."

Long hopes the ruling will help others living in their vehicles.

"Hope they would never have to see or do what I had to live through," he said.

The city may still ticket anyone who parks a vehicle for more than 72 hours.  But if it is someone's home, they may not impound it.

The city can appeal.

Or the cops can just kill him and dump the body. Troublemaker.
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« Reply #376 on: October 03, 2018, 03:03:30 AM »
I invented a new category here of "Roadstead"🚌, which is a play on the "Seastead" thread we have running which catalogues a variety of sailboats which may be useful for living on when SHTF Day arrives in your neighborhood.  I dropped this post in with the Stealth Van category, but a Roadstead🚌 is a larger and more complete arrangement for living, as well as substantially more spacious and comfortable than a Stealth Van.  It's an RV generally speaking, although you also have some great Schoolbus and Box Van trucks that are modified and fit the category.

Now, the Roadstead🚌 has the obvious limitation that if you can't get or can't afford fuel for it, it's no longer going anywhere.  However, it does provide you good means to GTFO of Dodge and live in decent comfort if a more localized SHTF scenario arrives in your neighborhood prior to a complete breakdown of Industrial Civilization.

To kick off this thread, I am featuring the GMC Motorhome🚌, produced from 1973-1978.  I really wanted one of these, just about as much as I wanted a sailboat back in my late teens when it was being manufactured.  Unlike the RVs produced by Winnebago in the era, it had a sleek aerodynamic look to it, almost like a spaceship.  In the video below, you'll learn some of the features of this vehicle, and why GM quit producing it.  You can still find them on the used market though, and I may look for one on Craig's List.

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