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The Kitchen Sink / Re: Help with a paradox
« on: November 29, 2016, 04:58:01 AM »
Perhaps they never will ...

I don't fucking think so.

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Conspiracy / Why did the Illuminati cross the road?
« on: November 28, 2016, 09:51:26 PM »
It means that enough roads were built that there was somehow 100% chance of this occurring, and all of them couldn't fly as well. Or teleport. It's possible all were captured and dragged across a road. The roads could have been virtual. A lost bet? The definition could have been in flux at the moment and the Illuminati was really (random activity like bake sale), but for that moment we called it this. I'm sure I'm missing most of the reasons.

How much energy did the observable Universe burn while I was typing this? Any physicists here that can estimate?

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The Kitchen Sink / Re: Help with a paradox
« on: November 28, 2016, 09:14:33 PM »
What's the meaning of the star on the other people in the checkout line?  ???  :icon_scratch:

RE

Oops - the fact I was told it was a paradox to begin with is why I couldn't solve it. That was the deeper lesson.

Without some meaning to the "star" the whole exercise is pointless.  You really gotta stop getting trapped into this kind of go nowhere thinking CW.  It's wasting your brainpower, like getting stuck in a bad loop in your programming.

RE

I don't like this analysis. Without people the exercise is pointless. What if I put a star on toasters?

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Knarfs Knewz / Re: Anybody ever reach out to knarf?
« on: November 28, 2016, 07:15:19 PM »

 I am the OWNER of the establishment as well as an Admin.


If the word is important to you I won't try to erase it from your mind.

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The Kitchen Sink / Re: Help with a paradox
« on: November 28, 2016, 07:10:29 PM »
What's the meaning of the star on the other people in the checkout line?  ???  :icon_scratch:

RE

Oops - the fact I was told it was a paradox to begin with is why I couldn't solve it. That was the deeper lesson.

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The Kitchen Sink / Re: Help with a paradox
« on: November 28, 2016, 07:09:10 PM »
What's the meaning of the star on the other people in the checkout line?  ???  :icon_scratch:

RE

The star was just on one person, and the puzzle originally had a line of prisoners and some contrived narrative. The meaning of putting a star on one person is that it was random. The fact the group could not solve it (in my head) us because I didn't realize if they trusted each other the problem would be solved. I think the prisoners were to be released if they figured this out. It's a parable, not a paradox.

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The Kitchen Sink / Help with a paradox
« on: November 28, 2016, 05:10:04 PM »
I've enjoyed "breaking" paradoxes - trying to determine why, in fact, we're not really looking at a paradox, but there's one that has always mindfucked me, and I want to see what the folks here can throw at it. It's a version of the "Executioner's Paradox". There's a chance I might figure it out as I'm typing though, and if I do in the process of typing I'll just "think out loud".

Imagine a "checkout line" of people - say 100 (number doesn't matter except in degenerate cases, but another difficulty is determining when the cases become degenerate). These people can see the backs of the heads of every person in front of them (e.g. person 100 can see 99 heads and person 1 can see no heads).

I take a star (or some kind of marker) and place it on the back of one person's head and they can't feel or detect this directly. If someone can figure out they have the star on the back their head based on the heads they see in front of them they must immediately admit this. For example - if person 100 doesn't see the star on the back of the 99 heads in front of him, then he correctly concludes that he has the star and the game is over.

Now imagine you're person 99. 100 doesn't claim to have the star, ah ... solved it

It's not a paradox at all. I'm not sure why I though it was. Never mind. (I can finish the "paradox" if someone wants.)

Interesting lesson on trust ... clever.

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The Kitchen Sink / Re: Diner Testimonials
« on: November 28, 2016, 04:56:10 PM »
I've found the Diner to be congenial. I recommend giving it a chance to newcomers, which I am.

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Knarfs Knewz / Re: Anybody ever reach out to knarf?
« on: November 28, 2016, 04:39:32 PM »

It's always darkest before dawn.

This will be my last reply this evening, but if this is the case it's because we've made it such.

Who's the "We" here?  I'm not  a member of this club.  I did not create the Universe, and I take no responsibility for it being darkest before dawn.  That was just the Universe I was born into.

RE

I guess I didn't want to leave for the evening. Well played again. I've been living in a world where understanding didn't seem to apply to our species. I used to tell my ex-wife that "intelligence is worthless" over and over. I can't be blamed for thinking this way. I'm happy it's not true. I'm also happy I don't hate her anymore, which is one of the best things about all this. I thought she was killing my son and I thought I had ruined my son and family/friends (e.g. directly threatening the CIA/NSA, but there were a lot of shenanigans). I felt I had to make a horrible existential decision, and I had to suppress the consequences. Sacrificing yourself is trivial. Sacrificing others is the worst decision you can make. Spock's advice applies. It must be done at times, but it's not easy when you're hypersensitive as opposed to half-dead like he must deliberately try to be (being half-human).

I read so many stories of our history of torture and imprisonment (and current stories, but I don't know what's true anymore - another interesting state to be in after all this ...). I knew everything I was saying and doing was being watched. I though I was being used to train psycho/sociopaths - whatever the hell those are. I also understood how networked people were and how easily words could get around - destroying a life in this world would be easier than crushing an ant. I know that I could have crushed easily, but was instead just driven along a precipice. This was not a fun game at the time. I also have curious ideas about the "feelings of Hell" subjectivity can generate. I'd actually like to explore those, somehow, if I could, and can come back to tell about it. I mean this in a "scientific curiosity" way. People will strap themselves to rockets. Fine. I want to see what neurological horror is possible (and neurological good). Supposedly there's a guy getting a head transplant. Could be one of these games, but I respect that curiosity.

I can see why you enjoy this though. It's okay .

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Knarfs Knewz / Re: Anybody ever reach out to knarf?
« on: November 28, 2016, 03:29:38 PM »

It's always darkest before dawn.

This will be my last reply this evening, but if this is the case it's because we've made it such. It's darkest when the sun is furthest from dawn. Interestingly then, to shift the darkness closer to dawn takes energy and resources ... :) That's a pretty expensive narrative.

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Knarfs Knewz / Re: Anybody ever reach out to knarf?
« on: November 28, 2016, 02:48:00 PM »
What do you call a fish looking for hooks to bite?

A Hungry Fish.

RE

Starving, more likely. Also, "decompression" is victim blaming.

Decompression is what happens when you come up from SCUBA Diving.

RE

I almost like this analogy. It is dark down there, but the ocean is beautiful. Where I was didn't seem to be.

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Knarfs Knewz / Re: Anybody ever reach out to knarf?
« on: November 28, 2016, 02:43:42 PM »


I'm just saying, if you are hallucinating then it may come out as gibberish to observes on a forum.

I'm sober and I think this is the explanation so far.

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Knarfs Knewz / Re: Anybody ever reach out to knarf?
« on: November 28, 2016, 02:42:05 PM »

The world didn't damage you.

Yes, I would say not.

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Knarfs Knewz / Re: Anybody ever reach out to knarf?
« on: November 28, 2016, 02:40:44 PM »
Most words are "name calling".
Indeed!  Are you familiar with Marshall B. Rosenberg's Non-Violent Communication?  Not only does he consider "You are an ignorant troll!" to be Violent Communication, but also so is "You are a wonderful chef!" ("I enjoy the dishes you cook" being an example of NVC.)

Not familiar with Rosenberg, but the reasoning can't be denied. The changes to language required to remove such "violence" would be intimidating.

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Knarfs Knewz / Re: Anybody ever reach out to knarf?
« on: November 28, 2016, 01:58:51 PM »
What do you call a fish looking for hooks to bite?

A Hungry Fish.

RE

Starving, more likely. Also, "decompression" is victim blaming.

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